Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#423


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#424


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we all know the price is too good to last.
(i set up my pnr and paid within 1 hr knowing the fare was gone soon.)
aa can basically do anything it wants before aa sells u a ticket. and aa probabaly dont care if anyone boycotts them over it.
i am sure that when there is a next great deal that can only be bookable by aa, i will book.with them without thinking twice. there is really nothing u can do.
(i set up my pnr and paid within 1 hr knowing the fare was gone soon.)
aa can basically do anything it wants before aa sells u a ticket. and aa probabaly dont care if anyone boycotts them over it.
i am sure that when there is a next great deal that can only be bookable by aa, i will book.with them without thinking twice. there is really nothing u can do.
Last edited by pbd456; Aug 4, 2016 at 4:01 am
#426
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The reservation on hold means that you have confirmed seats on the flights in question. Your seats were taken out of the inventory available on those flights.
AA is free to re-calculate the fare, although usually they will not do so.
The point of the hold is to give time for the tickets to be issued.
#427


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#428



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BUT these ex-MPM fares were no mistake, they had been there for ~3years ever since QR joined the alliance. It's just that the local currency has been in steady decline with the result that the fares became very cheap to those of us outside Mozambique.
As regards an airline re-pricing - yes they do that if the fare has been held for more than a certain length of time (and I guess also when the fare has changed significantly). I was in the situation where I had phoned AA and paid on Friday (July 29). I was not ticketed and my credit card had not been charged when the fares went up on Monday. Yet I phoned on Tuesday and got it ticketed at the pre price rise fare.
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As regards an airline re-pricing - yes they do that if the fare has been held for more than a certain length of time (and I guess also when the fare has changed significantly). I was in the situation where I had phoned AA and paid on Friday (July 29). I was not ticketed and my credit card had not been charged when the fares went up on Monday. Yet I phoned on Tuesday and got it ticketed at the pre price rise fare.
Probably in this case AA actively requoted the ex-MPM itineraries knowing that the price had materially changed.
#430


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Seventy-one minutes on the phone to Qantas with this itinerary:
MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB.
The agent said she can't price it because there are too many flights to and from DOH. She says travel must be in a continuous direction.
MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB.
The agent said she can't price it because there are too many flights to and from DOH. She says travel must be in a continuous direction.
#431



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Well, as you probably know danger, the agent is wrong. The relevant rule is
My emphasis. And of course DOH,CMN and CPH are all in the same continent, namely Europe/Middle East
And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin
4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 - TC2 - TC3. Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows:
Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted.
Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted.
And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin
#432


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Well, as you probably know danger, the agent is wrong. The relevant rule is
My emphasis. And of course DOH,CMN and CPH are all in the same continent, namely Europe/Middle East
And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin
My emphasis. And of course DOH,CMN and CPH are all in the same continent, namely Europe/Middle East
And there is no rule limiting the number of visits to any given point - other than the point of origin
Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as
follows:
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East
I feared that I was actually arriving into Europe/Middle East three times (MPM-DOH; CMN-DOH; CPH-DOH). But then I thought harder and realised (I think) that my itinerary only has one intercontinental arrival (MPM-DOH) and one intercontinental departure (DOH-GRU), as DOH, CMN and CPH are all in the one continent.follows:
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East
So I'm waiting to speak to a supervisor. The agent who told me no go has had me on hold now for almost 20 minutes.
(Incidentally, as noted above, AA priced it without issue.)
#433


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your routing is fine.
#434



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(Incidentally, as noted above, AA priced it without issue.)
AA priced it, but you are talking to a QF agent?Edited to add:
FWIW my last DONE was very similar to your itinerary:
CPT-JNB-xDOH-EZE...BKK-xDOH-CMN-DOH-OSL-xDOH-NBO
So 4 times through DOH (I know the airport quite well now
)
Last edited by pandaperth; Aug 4, 2016 at 8:18 am
#435


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his aa quoted had refared. qf has yet to update the fare. only aa ba cx jl ib have the new fare.



