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Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Oct 23, 2022 | 1:39 pm
#1021
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
The ticket I want is the Global Explorer. I had expected the agent to not be as knowledgeable of its fare rules as the (more common I imagine) Oneworld Explorer. But she knew all about it (and with my itinerary the important rules were a maximum of 34,000 miles and a maximum of four stopovers per continent.) But she surprised me in not knowing that AT (Royal Air Maroc) is a member of the alliance (it joined in 2020) and that the rules define Morocco (and the other North African countries) to be part of the continent of Europe/Middle East.
Oct 23, 2022 | 10:38 pm
#1023
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: country Western Australia
Programs: QF WP(LTS) - AA LTG(1MM)
Posts: 2,857
Had two RTW (2017 and 18) tickets issued by QR through a Perth travel agent. Her dealing with QR in Melbourne indicated someone there knew the correct rules.
There are times to use a TA (if you are willing to pay the 3%) when wandering
Fred
There are times to use a TA (if you are willing to pay the 3%) when wandering
Fred
Oct 23, 2022 | 10:46 pm
#1024
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Plan C was to ask Sri Lankan to ticket it, the final two flights on the ticket are with them, and I was happy with them having ticketed my current RTW
For interest, where did your two QR ticketed RTWs commence?
Oct 24, 2022 | 5:44 pm
#1025
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
I've had mixed luck using American Express Platinum Travel. They've been waiving their fee since the pandemic. Sometimes agents there are excellent (although nowhere near as amazing as the travel agent I used to use for work trips). Some agents I just feed them the flight numbers, dates, inventory, cities, and boom, w're ready to go. Others insist on finding each flight through a painful process of searching. I asked an agent there about issuing xONEx tickets and she said it comes up as bookable no problem, and it gave her base fares that matches EF.
Oct 24, 2022 | 10:03 pm
#1026
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: country Western Australia
Programs: QF WP(LTS) - AA LTG(1MM)
Posts: 2,857
For interest, where did your two QR ticketed RTWs commence?
which helped immensely with my wandering
Fred
Oct 25, 2022 | 9:44 pm
#1027
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampere
Posts: 3,342
open-dated segments
The xONEx rules still say
5. RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING
I've never tried this (on about 7-8 RTWs) and I'm wondering if it's as easy as it looks. Do the airlines (I'm particularly curious about the AA RTW desk) accept such bookings without argument, or is there pushback (or flat-out refusal)? We know that some carriers add additional hurdles that are not in the xONEx rules and, indeed, may even be counter to the spirit if not the letter of those rules -- e.g., own-metal requirements. So, I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like 'Nah, that's a legacy from the days of paper tix. Nowadays on the computer everything has to be specified from the beginning.'
Insights appreciated.
5. RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING
- (a) Reservations and Ticketing
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Subsequent segments may be open-dated.
I've never tried this (on about 7-8 RTWs) and I'm wondering if it's as easy as it looks. Do the airlines (I'm particularly curious about the AA RTW desk) accept such bookings without argument, or is there pushback (or flat-out refusal)? We know that some carriers add additional hurdles that are not in the xONEx rules and, indeed, may even be counter to the spirit if not the letter of those rules -- e.g., own-metal requirements. So, I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like 'Nah, that's a legacy from the days of paper tix. Nowadays on the computer everything has to be specified from the beginning.'
Insights appreciated.
Oct 26, 2022 | 10:06 am
#1028
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
The xONEx rules still say
5. RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING
I've never tried this (on about 7-8 RTWs) and I'm wondering if it's as easy as it looks. Do the airlines (I'm particularly curious about the AA RTW desk) accept such bookings without argument, or is there pushback (or flat-out refusal)? We know that some carriers add additional hurdles that are not in the xONEx rules and, indeed, may even be counter to the spirit if not the letter of those rules -- e.g., own-metal requirements. So, I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like 'Nah, that's a legacy from the days of paper tix. Nowadays on the computer everything has to be specified from the beginning.'
5. RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING
- (a) Reservations and Ticketing
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Subsequent segments may be open-dated.
I've never tried this (on about 7-8 RTWs) and I'm wondering if it's as easy as it looks. Do the airlines (I'm particularly curious about the AA RTW desk) accept such bookings without argument, or is there pushback (or flat-out refusal)? We know that some carriers add additional hurdles that are not in the xONEx rules and, indeed, may even be counter to the spirit if not the letter of those rules -- e.g., own-metal requirements. So, I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like 'Nah, that's a legacy from the days of paper tix. Nowadays on the computer everything has to be specified from the beginning.'
Oct 28, 2022 | 9:43 am
#1029
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: JAX
Programs: Ex-BA/AA/CP/LY staff, BA Blue, IHG Diamond, Marriott Silver, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 3,756
Oct 29, 2022 | 12:14 pm
#1030
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
Oct 31, 2022 | 12:05 pm
#1031
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MEX
Posts: 1,030
Thanks for the info!
According to this AA shouldn't have an issue issuing me a DONE4 originating from OSL as long as I include a transatlantic or transpacific flight on their metal?
According to this AA shouldn't have an issue issuing me a DONE4 originating from OSL as long as I include a transatlantic or transpacific flight on their metal?
Back in March I tried to get American Airlines to ticket the itinerary I am just finishing (see post #935)
Back then AA refused to ticket my itinerary, because it was neither the first carrier nor the first over water carrier.
This time there was no mention of its being the first overwater carrier, the agent merely stipulated that AA must have an over water segment (if its not the first carrier that is)
The ticket I want is the Global Explorer. I had expected the agent to not be as knowledgeable of its fare rules as the (more common I imagine) Oneworld Explorer. But she knew all about it (and with my itinerary the important rules were a maximum of 34,000 miles and a maximum of four stopovers per continent.) But she surprised me in not knowing that AT (Royal Air Maroc) is a member of the alliance (it joined in 2020) and that the rules define Morocco (and the other North African countries) to be part of the continent of Europe/Middle East.
All went smoothly the itinerary was set up by the agent, priced by the fares team, paid by me and then the ticket issued.
And my first flights are next Saturday (KHI-xDOH-NBO)
So alls well that ends well.
Back then AA refused to ticket my itinerary, because it was neither the first carrier nor the first over water carrier.
This time there was no mention of its being the first overwater carrier, the agent merely stipulated that AA must have an over water segment (if its not the first carrier that is)
The ticket I want is the Global Explorer. I had expected the agent to not be as knowledgeable of its fare rules as the (more common I imagine) Oneworld Explorer. But she knew all about it (and with my itinerary the important rules were a maximum of 34,000 miles and a maximum of four stopovers per continent.) But she surprised me in not knowing that AT (Royal Air Maroc) is a member of the alliance (it joined in 2020) and that the rules define Morocco (and the other North African countries) to be part of the continent of Europe/Middle East.
All went smoothly the itinerary was set up by the agent, priced by the fares team, paid by me and then the ticket issued.
And my first flights are next Saturday (KHI-xDOH-NBO)
So alls well that ends well.
Oct 31, 2022 | 4:51 pm
#1033
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
Programs: AS 75K;BA Silver;AA G;HH Dia;HY Glob
Posts: 16,677
Back when paper tickets and e-tickets were coexisting if you had open dated segments, AA and others would issue a paper ticket. After paper tickets went away, I had some long discussions with the AA and BA rtw desks about open dated segments on xonex e-tickets and both refused to even consider booking with open dated segments (CX also refused open dating for xonex tickets). I finally gave up. I would be quite interested if anyone has successfully obtained an xonex e-ticket with open dated segments recently.
Edited to add: I know that Amadeus allows open dated segments (although finding an agent to do it can be difficult) but, iirc, making these open dated segments work across one GDS to another (specifically, Sabre) was the reason OW members seemed to reject booking open dated segments.
Edited to add: I know that Amadeus allows open dated segments (although finding an agent to do it can be difficult) but, iirc, making these open dated segments work across one GDS to another (specifically, Sabre) was the reason OW members seemed to reject booking open dated segments.
Last edited by jerry a. laska; Oct 31, 2022 at 5:29 pm
Oct 31, 2022 | 8:34 pm
#1035
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
Programs: AS 75K;BA Silver;AA G;HH Dia;HY Glob
Posts: 16,677
- After departure:
- Changes are permitted provided ticketed point remain the same.
- Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
- No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.
- Changes are permitted provided ticketed point remain the same.