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Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Sep 18, 2022 | 8:09 am
#991
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
Sep 20, 2022 | 8:03 am
#993
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: BA DL
Posts: 196
To give some idea of the total cost I have booked the following in the past three months (both are 16 segment DONE4s in USD):
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
Sep 20, 2022 | 9:51 am
#994
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,131
To give some idea of the total cost I have booked the following in the past three months (both are 16 segment DONE4s in USD):
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
I did an ex-ARN DONE4 before COVID that surprised me by how low the taxes and fees were, because it had no BA segments. But I usually book with AA, which charges its own and BA's surcharges for sure. I wonder if there are airlines that don't, or that charge less?
Sep 21, 2022 | 9:25 pm
#996
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,104
To give some idea of the total cost I have booked the following in the past three months (both are 16 segment DONE4s in USD):
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
Ex-TYO $5,798 + $1,197 = $6,995
Ex-KEF $6,207 + $501 = $6,708
The base fare for TYO is now quite a bit lower. I don't have the full breakdown, but I assume that the taxes and fees are much higher on the ex-TYO routing because there are more BA segments. (BTW, you can get in and out of KEF on AY).
Never thought of ex-KEF. AY is your first segment carrier? Is it seasonal?
Sep 25, 2022 | 8:12 am
#999
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: BA DL
Posts: 196
KEF-HEL-SIN-SYD-AKL-DFW-BOS-ORD-SEA-JNU-SEA-BOS-MAD-MUC, PRG-HEL-KEF
I am Boston based, so really three trips here. Lots of trouble finding D class availability between Europe and SYD. Originally had to start KEF-LHR-BLR-SYD, but HEL-SIN opened up before I ticketed.
I am Boston based, so really three trips here. Lots of trouble finding D class availability between Europe and SYD. Originally had to start KEF-LHR-BLR-SYD, but HEL-SIN opened up before I ticketed.
Sep 25, 2022 | 11:41 am
#1000
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,104
If you could back track to MUC somehow, you can add MUC-DOH. That way you can try out SkyTrax #1 airlines' QR on B788 & Al Mourjan lounge.
Oct 3, 2022 | 4:53 am
#1001
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: BA Exec Blue, IHG Gold, HHonor Gold,.
Posts: 968
New to this so have a few (possible) numpty questions.
I have an Evoucher from BA and would like to use it for this RTW trip.
Q1 I assume I have to start the trip with a BA ticket (though not necessarily from UK) ?
Q1a I would have to ring BA to book.
I get several errors on certain routings saying "cannot find a flight on this date" when there are clearly flights.
Q2 Is this because there is a special ticket bucket fare that is truly not available or is the tool wrong?
Example KEF-Lon in Jan 2023-No economy fare but there is Business-Then looking at the detail it says this flight has no Business seats so you are in Economy!
Example 2 DUB-Lon-No flights!
Odd behaviour?
I get an error:-
There is an unexpected issue when requesting a price for this itinerary. Please try changing a flight, date, cabin or city/destination.
When I change the carrier (from IB to BA in this case) it all works fine.
Anyone know why?
Thanks
I have an Evoucher from BA and would like to use it for this RTW trip.
Q1 I assume I have to start the trip with a BA ticket (though not necessarily from UK) ?
Q1a I would have to ring BA to book.
I get several errors on certain routings saying "cannot find a flight on this date" when there are clearly flights.
Q2 Is this because there is a special ticket bucket fare that is truly not available or is the tool wrong?
Example KEF-Lon in Jan 2023-No economy fare but there is Business-Then looking at the detail it says this flight has no Business seats so you are in Economy!
Example 2 DUB-Lon-No flights!
Odd behaviour?
I get an error:-
There is an unexpected issue when requesting a price for this itinerary. Please try changing a flight, date, cabin or city/destination.
When I change the carrier (from IB to BA in this case) it all works fine.
Anyone know why?
Thanks
Oct 3, 2022 | 5:05 am
#1002
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
Oct 3, 2022 | 5:22 am
#1003
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
I had to google "numpty"
My 2c worth below.
My 2c worth below.
New to this so have a few (possible) numpty questions.
I have an Evoucher from BA and would like to use it for this RTW trip.
Q1 I assume I have to start the trip with a BA ticket (though not necessarily from UK) ?
Q1a I would have to ring BA to book.
I don't know the technicalities of using BA vouchers. Perhaps better asked on the BA forum?
A complete RTW ticket is issued by one airline (usually the first carrier on the ticket), there aren't separate tickets issued by each carrier on the itinerary
I expect that BA would be your issuing carrier, but given its relations ship other airlines (IB, QR?) maybe it can be issued by another airline
If you can get the tool to work and BA is the issuing carrier, then you will have to phone BA to pay and I guess that is when you can ask to use your voucher
I get several errors on certain routings saying "cannot find a flight on this date" when there are clearly flights.
Q2 Is this because there is a special ticket bucket fare that is truly not available or is the tool wrong?
The RTW booking tool is so buggy we have a separate thread on its bugs
This is a known bug that has been reported to Oneworld. No action has ever been taken to fix it (or any of the other bugs)
The RTW tickets do use specific fare buckets (A for 1st class, D for business class, and L for economy class) but these buckets are not unique to the RTW tickets, plenty of other fares use them too
The tool is most certainly wrong!
Example KEF-Lon in Jan 2023-No economy fare but there is Business-Then looking at the detail it says this flight has no Business seats so you are in Economy!
Example 2 DUB-Lon-No flights!
Odd behaviour?
I get an error:-
There is an unexpected issue when requesting a price for this itinerary. Please try changing a flight, date, cabin or city/destination.
When I change the carrier (from IB to BA in this case) it all works fine.
Anyone know why?
Another known bug. As you've discovered, playing around with carriers (especially the first carrier), and sometimes picking a different routing, will clear the error
There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it
Thanks
I have an Evoucher from BA and would like to use it for this RTW trip.
Q1 I assume I have to start the trip with a BA ticket (though not necessarily from UK) ?
Q1a I would have to ring BA to book.
I don't know the technicalities of using BA vouchers. Perhaps better asked on the BA forum?
A complete RTW ticket is issued by one airline (usually the first carrier on the ticket), there aren't separate tickets issued by each carrier on the itinerary
I expect that BA would be your issuing carrier, but given its relations ship other airlines (IB, QR?) maybe it can be issued by another airline
If you can get the tool to work and BA is the issuing carrier, then you will have to phone BA to pay and I guess that is when you can ask to use your voucher
I get several errors on certain routings saying "cannot find a flight on this date" when there are clearly flights.
Q2 Is this because there is a special ticket bucket fare that is truly not available or is the tool wrong?
The RTW booking tool is so buggy we have a separate thread on its bugs
This is a known bug that has been reported to Oneworld. No action has ever been taken to fix it (or any of the other bugs)
The RTW tickets do use specific fare buckets (A for 1st class, D for business class, and L for economy class) but these buckets are not unique to the RTW tickets, plenty of other fares use them too
The tool is most certainly wrong!
Example KEF-Lon in Jan 2023-No economy fare but there is Business-Then looking at the detail it says this flight has no Business seats so you are in Economy!
Example 2 DUB-Lon-No flights!
Odd behaviour?
I get an error:-
There is an unexpected issue when requesting a price for this itinerary. Please try changing a flight, date, cabin or city/destination.
When I change the carrier (from IB to BA in this case) it all works fine.
Anyone know why?
Another known bug. As you've discovered, playing around with carriers (especially the first carrier), and sometimes picking a different routing, will clear the error
There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it
Thanks
Oct 3, 2022 | 6:52 am
#1004
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: BA Exec Blue, IHG Gold, HHonor Gold,.
Posts: 968
Thank you both for the quick replies and the fare bucket codes.
Last Q.
Q2b
As I will have to phone to book to use my eVoucher I assume I would ignore any blatant tool errors and relay my route to the BA operative.
I could figure out the taxes using ITA Matrix., though not sure about the base cost?
I'll look at the bug thread
Last Q.
Q2b
As I will have to phone to book to use my eVoucher I assume I would ignore any blatant tool errors and relay my route to the BA operative.
I could figure out the taxes using ITA Matrix., though not sure about the base cost?
I'll look at the bug thread
Oct 3, 2022 | 8:43 am
#1005
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Assuming you're thinking of the Oneworld Explorer ticket (and not the less popular Global Explorer ticket), it may be worth your while reading the Oneworld Explorer Guide wiki
"...and relay my route to the BA operative.."
Absolutely, just have everything ready.
In the past I have simply fed the agent:
Date From-To Flight Number
for each flight I want
The agent takes all that and passes it to the airline's Fares Team who verify compliance with the rules and price it.
As for the Base Fare, what's your starting point and cabin class?
"...and relay my route to the BA operative.."
Absolutely, just have everything ready.
In the past I have simply fed the agent:
Date From-To Flight Number
for each flight I want
The agent takes all that and passes it to the airline's Fares Team who verify compliance with the rules and price it.
As for the Base Fare, what's your starting point and cabin class?