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Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Oct 28, 2018 | 10:28 pm
#841
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
Programs: 14 years AA exp, but no more; & 1MM+, QR-PLT (ow EMD) MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 8,104
Prior to departure (flying the first segment): Any changes to the first segment will trigger repricing of the entire ticket. If the price has gone up since you bought the ticket, the additional fare will be collected. If the price has gone down, there will be no refund. Changes to the cities will result in a charge of $125 plus repricing of the entire ticket. Again, if the price has gone up since you bought the ticket, the additional fare will be collected. If the price has gone down, there will be no refund.
After departure (flying the first segment): Changes permitted and are free as long as the cities and sequence remains the same. (I.e., changes to flights/dates/times are free.) Changes to the cities or the sequence of the cities results in a $125 fee. Changes to the number of continents will trigger repricing the entire ticket.
See One World Explorer Rules 16(a) 1 and 2.
After departure (flying the first segment): Changes permitted and are free as long as the cities and sequence remains the same. (I.e., changes to flights/dates/times are free.) Changes to the cities or the sequence of the cities results in a $125 fee. Changes to the number of continents will trigger repricing the entire ticket.
See One World Explorer Rules 16(a) 1 and 2.
Oct 29, 2018 | 7:30 am
#844
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: DL DM MM (fmr NW Plat), BA GGL/CCR, Aegean Gold, WorldClubs Life, SPG Plat, Hyatt Plat, HHonors Dmnd
Posts: 1,409
a) yes, I'm an agent
b) The first change of TC has to be on BA because only BA published the fare. If the first change of TC were on AA for instance, normally that would be fine as AA also has the same fares filed as BA for RTW (and others), but in this case AA did not have a fare published, only BA, so to get it to price out with the BA fare, BA has to be the marketing carrier for the most significant flight (first change of TC).
b) The first change of TC has to be on BA because only BA published the fare. If the first change of TC were on AA for instance, normally that would be fine as AA also has the same fares filed as BA for RTW (and others), but in this case AA did not have a fare published, only BA, so to get it to price out with the BA fare, BA has to be the marketing carrier for the most significant flight (first change of TC).
Oct 29, 2018 | 12:23 pm
#845
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
Did I answer your question? I changed date after departure on QR stock ticket via QR directly. no problem. sometimes have to wait a few days. Before departure, I didnt try. maybe possible if you can reason the rule with them.
QR is just as competent as any other airline in term of RTW -- my personal opinion.
QR is just as competent as any other airline in term of RTW -- my personal opinion.
Oct 29, 2018 | 12:42 pm
#846
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,794
My experience is that when you show up in person with a QR ticket, they feel obligated to help you.
Los Angeles International Airport
Terminal 2 East Side, 200 World WayLos Angeles, United States
Los Angeles, CA 90045, United States of America
Working hours:
Tel : +1-877-777-2827 or +1-954-745-0380
Fax:
- Airport Office Hours::11:00am - 4:00pm daily
- Customer Contact Centre Hours of Operation:Mon-Fri: 8:00am -9:00pm EST; Sat and Sun: 9:00am - 5:30pm EST
- Booking Fees::Tickets purchased or modified by phone, at the airport or through a Qatar Airways Ticket Office include a non-refundable $25 administrative fee.
Oct 30, 2018 | 9:52 am
#848
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,898
I'm honestly sad that this was ever posted. It was the gift that kept on giving and now it's gone. I had booked 3 of these for myself and 4 for family / friends, all AONE5 ex-SEZ. Was hoping to book another in a month for use in November '2019 but now that's gone, sigh.
A few points on this for people wondering. The first change of tariff conference (TC2 to TC1/3, i.e. from Africa/Europe to N/S America or Asia/Oceania) has to be a BA flight number. You could fly BA or QR to LHR and then fly a BA-coded flight to N. America or Asia and this would price out. Personally, I plated most of my tickets on Sri Lankan as it had the lowest YQ's that way, but I do have one plated on American.
As for making changes, if you booked it with an agent using SABRE, it's really easy to change and re-issue. The normal WFR commands work if you just tack ‡RW on the end. Will automatically re-calculate the taxes and YQ's, change fee is either 0 or 125. I've re-issued one of my tickets 10 times already.
A few points on this for people wondering. The first change of tariff conference (TC2 to TC1/3, i.e. from Africa/Europe to N/S America or Asia/Oceania) has to be a BA flight number. You could fly BA or QR to LHR and then fly a BA-coded flight to N. America or Asia and this would price out. Personally, I plated most of my tickets on Sri Lankan as it had the lowest YQ's that way, but I do have one plated on American.
As for making changes, if you booked it with an agent using SABRE, it's really easy to change and re-issue. The normal WFR commands work if you just tack ‡RW on the end. Will automatically re-calculate the taxes and YQ's, change fee is either 0 or 125. I've re-issued one of my tickets 10 times already.
If a travel agent did the original ticketing and the first flight is already flown, would one contact the issuing airline (Sri Lankan in your case) for changes or just contact the OW airline that one intended to use for the next flight segment?
Lastly, do the rules as of the ticketing date apply or the rules of the date that the fare was filed? Some changes are now valid which were not valid even 1 year ago.
Oct 30, 2018 | 10:19 am
#849
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,572
Yes, for BA-plated tickets. I believe that it only applies to the first flight ex-Europe/M.E., not the first flight ex-Africa.
Oct 30, 2018 | 10:37 am
#850
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
The rules of the fare used on the date originally ticketed, is my understanding. The fact that the general xONEx fare rules changed does not mean that the specific fare ticketed has those changes. The ex-SEZ fare was an old fare and had rules without some of the changes.
Oct 30, 2018 | 1:05 pm
#853
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,794
The rules of the fare used on the date originally ticketed, is my understanding. The fact that the general xONEx fare rules changed does not mean that the specific fare ticketed has those changes. The ex-SEZ fare was an old fare and had rules without some of the changes.
Oct 30, 2018 | 1:11 pm
#854
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,794
Does the requirement of using a BA marketed flight from TC2 to TC1/3, i.e. from Africa/Europe to N/S America or Asia/Oceania apply after the 1st flight has been flown?
If a travel agent did the original ticketing and the first flight is already flown, would one contact the issuing airline (Sri Lankan in your case) for changes or just contact the OW airline that one intended to use for the next flight segment?
Lastly, do the rules as of the ticketing date apply or the rules of the date that the fare was filed? Some changes are now valid which were not valid even 1 year ago.
If a travel agent did the original ticketing and the first flight is already flown, would one contact the issuing airline (Sri Lankan in your case) for changes or just contact the OW airline that one intended to use for the next flight segment?
Lastly, do the rules as of the ticketing date apply or the rules of the date that the fare was filed? Some changes are now valid which were not valid even 1 year ago.
I actually tried to price it out a few months before and didnt autoprice and had no idea what had changed since last time I priced it.
The change is either via agent or via the issuing airline.
I had ex-CAI ticketed on Dec 1, 2016 and on the same date oneworld allow 2 stopover in Asia if it involves travel from europe to australia. QR digged into the actual fare rule on the fare that was purchased and said
that the fare that we purchased was on old rule, hence denied it.
I know other people had bought who bought it before Dec 1 and able to have 2 stops in Asia. This is the case where the agent can make discretion (or check all details enough). the better the agent, the more likely they
will stick to the rule and know what rule to apply correctly
Oct 30, 2018 | 1:31 pm
#855
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
It was easy to obtain at the time of ticketing, and is still easy to obtain from EF. In EF, do a fare search for sez-sez with a ticketing date of the date you did ticket. In the list of returned fares, click the "Fare Rules" icon for the fare you ticketed.