New Zealand’s response to Covid-19 [was Soft closing of NZ Border]
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YHA Lake Tekapo, my favorite place in NZ, is shutting down. I just received this email:
If you are local and you are able to stay at YHA Lake Tekapo before the December 15 shutdown, you should go.
The extended Auckland lockdown and no prospects of an international visitor market this summer has created market conditions that place YHA in an unsustainable financial position.
The properties closing permanently are; YHA Auckland International, YHA Rotorua, YHA Wellington, YHA Christchurch, YHA Lake Tekapo, YHA Aoraki Mt Cook, YHA Wanaka, YHA Queenstown Central, YHA Queenstown Lakefront, YHA Te Anau, YHA Franz Josef and Our Dog Friday Cafe.
Our 20 privately owned and operated Associate hostels will continue to operate.
The properties closing permanently are; YHA Auckland International, YHA Rotorua, YHA Wellington, YHA Christchurch, YHA Lake Tekapo, YHA Aoraki Mt Cook, YHA Wanaka, YHA Queenstown Central, YHA Queenstown Lakefront, YHA Te Anau, YHA Franz Josef and Our Dog Friday Cafe.
Our 20 privately owned and operated Associate hostels will continue to operate.
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(rnz.co,nz)--.>Youth Hostel Association to close its hostels after 89 years
The Youth Hostel Association will permanently close its 11 hostels from next month.
The YHA said the extended Auckland lockdown and no prospects of an international visitors this summer left the association in an unsustainable financial position. The 11 hostels owned by the association will close from 15 December after 89 years of operation. The association is also linked with 23 other individually-owned properties around the country which will continue to operate as normal, Cartwright said.
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The YHA-managed hostels to close next month are: YHA Auckland International, YHA Rotorua, YHA Wellington, YHA Christchurch, YHA Lake Tekapo, YHA Aoraki Mt Cook, YHA Wanaka, YHA Queenstown Central, YHA Queenstown Lakefront, YHA Franz Josef and YHA Te Anau.
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The YHA said the extended Auckland lockdown and no prospects of an international visitors this summer left the association in an unsustainable financial position. The 11 hostels owned by the association will close from 15 December after 89 years of operation. The association is also linked with 23 other individually-owned properties around the country which will continue to operate as normal, Cartwright said.
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The YHA-managed hostels to close next month are: YHA Auckland International, YHA Rotorua, YHA Wellington, YHA Christchurch, YHA Lake Tekapo, YHA Aoraki Mt Cook, YHA Wanaka, YHA Queenstown Central, YHA Queenstown Lakefront, YHA Franz Josef and YHA Te Anau.
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Are a YHANZ life member. In my younger days stayed at many. Have changed over time to be more like (budget) hotels
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(stuff.co.nz)--->Everyone in queue gets through first MIQ virtual lobby since border announcement
MIQ lobby- NZ Govt links
No one left in the queue for MIQ’s ninth voucher release via virtual lobby – 25 Nov 2021
MIQ’s eighth voucher release via virtual lobby – 18 Nov 2021
MIQ’s seventh voucher release via virtual lobby – 9 Nov 2021
The number of people vying for a room in managed isolation has dropped to a third of last week’s numbers in the first virtual lobby since changes to the system were announced.
Fully vaccinated Kiwis travelling from Australia can bypass managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) from January 17, instead self-isolating at home for seven days. Those returning from other countries will be allowed to do so from February 14.
Joint head of MIQ Chris Bunny said the changes to MIQ from next year caused a significant drop in the number of people participating in Thursday’s room release.
There were 5426 people in the lobby at 4pm – about 9200 fewer than last week – and for the first time since running the virtual lobbies, everybody that joined the queue could enter the allocation website.
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Fully vaccinated Kiwis travelling from Australia can bypass managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) from January 17, instead self-isolating at home for seven days. Those returning from other countries will be allowed to do so from February 14.
Joint head of MIQ Chris Bunny said the changes to MIQ from next year caused a significant drop in the number of people participating in Thursday’s room release.
There were 5426 people in the lobby at 4pm – about 9200 fewer than last week – and for the first time since running the virtual lobbies, everybody that joined the queue could enter the allocation website.
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No one left in the queue for MIQ’s ninth voucher release via virtual lobby – 25 Nov 2021
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Summary of the stats
The lobby opened about 10 minutes before 3pm today.
At 4pm 5,426 people were moved into the queue — this represented 8,182 passengers. These numbers grew as people entered the queue throughout the room release (these people go to the back of the queue). There were 6,307 people in the queue in total, representing 9,341 passengers.
4,927 people from 122 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 3,320 rooms. The number of available rooms was 3,411, but not all rooms were taken.
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Summary of the stats
The lobby opened about 10 minutes before 3pm today.
At 4pm 5,426 people were moved into the queue — this represented 8,182 passengers. These numbers grew as people entered the queue throughout the room release (these people go to the back of the queue). There were 6,307 people in the queue in total, representing 9,341 passengers.
4,927 people from 122 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 3,320 rooms. The number of available rooms was 3,411, but not all rooms were taken.
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6,214 people from 126 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 4,230 rooms.
More than 43,500 people have secured vouchers through the last 8 room releases.
Rooms started being released at 1pm and were gone by 3:45pm.
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6,214 people from 126 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 4,230 rooms.
More than 43,500 people have secured vouchers through the last 8 room releases.
Rooms started being released at 1pm and were gone by 3:45pm.
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At 10am 14,205 people were moved into the queue — this represented 22,458 passengers. These numbers grew as people entered the queue throughout the room release (these people go to the back of the queue). There were 16,277 people in the queue in total, representing 24,695 passengers. 26% of passengers got a booking.
5,888 people from 128 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 4,039 rooms.
More than 37,300 people have secured vouchers through the last 7 room releases.
Rooms started being released at 10am and were gone by 12:27pm.
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5,888 people from 128 countries managed to secure MIQ vouchers – that’s across 4,039 rooms.
More than 37,300 people have secured vouchers through the last 7 room releases.
Rooms started being released at 10am and were gone by 12:27pm.
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Thanks so much everyone for the detailed info. I will be moving my trip to early 2023.
I feel very fortunate to have spent 3 full weeks on the South Island in February 2020. I arrived immediately after the ban on entry from China, departing one day before the first case appeared, ironically from California. In between, I witnessed the 1 meter rainfall in Fiordland. The South Island was so calm and relaxed with fewer tourists. So many lasting memories. I know my next visit will be very different, if only because of overcrowding.
I feel very fortunate to have spent 3 full weeks on the South Island in February 2020. I arrived immediately after the ban on entry from China, departing one day before the first case appeared, ironically from California. In between, I witnessed the 1 meter rainfall in Fiordland. The South Island was so calm and relaxed with fewer tourists. So many lasting memories. I know my next visit will be very different, if only because of overcrowding.
we were fortunate to be in there at the same time as you. It was very quiet, we were part of the early evacuation of the Milford trek before the crazy rain. Drove the southern scenic route to invercargill and were told on arrival there were lots of roads out inland so were glad we took coast road. We were on a boat to doubtful sound and turned back due to mudslides. In addition to all the natural beauty We saw Elton John in Dunedin on a cold and rainy night. We flew to Japan to get home just as the cruise ships were being held in port. We've spent time in NZ for the last 15 years and cant wait to returrn again but wonder how it will survive the last two years and how it will bounce back in the future.
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A causality of the NZ Govt (Jacinda) CV19 policy
(rnz.co,nz)--.>Youth Hostel Association to close its hostels after 89 years
(stuff.co.nz)--->Youth hostel closures in Tekapo and Aoraki/Mt Cook a double blow for Mackenzie District
Are a YHANZ life member. In my younger days stayed at many. Have changed over time to be more like (budget) hotels
(rnz.co,nz)--.>Youth Hostel Association to close its hostels after 89 years
(stuff.co.nz)--->Youth hostel closures in Tekapo and Aoraki/Mt Cook a double blow for Mackenzie District
Are a YHANZ life member. In my younger days stayed at many. Have changed over time to be more like (budget) hotels
Hadn't heard of YHA so I looked it up. Some prime locations like in Queenstown. Probably booked all the time (because the rates are so much lower than surrounding properties) so I never saw it as an option.
It's strange though some of the reviews are from middle-aged people including those who stayed with their families with children.
Suppose to be a "youth" hostel? What was their age cutoff?
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In many parts the world age limit is 99 (or greater) or if you walk & breath you can stay. Germany used to have a 26year age limit. Not sure if that still exists
Different counties ~ properties market to a different client. In UK YHA not uncommon to have retired people staying in rural properties.
YHA's have changed over the decades. The quality of the properties can vary a lot
In many parts the world age limit is 99 (or greater) or if you walk & breath you can stay. Germany used to have a 26year age limit. Not sure if that still exists
Different counties ~ properties market to a different client. In UK YHA not uncommon to have retired people staying in rural properties.
YHA's have changed over the decades. The quality of the properties can vary a lot
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NZ Govt had months to do this. Covid pass have been talked about since vaccinations started. Did not need to be rushed. Just planning
(stuff.co.nz)--->My Vaccine Pass is an example of what you get when you rush a tech project
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More policy in the run
(rnz.co.nz)--->Many pharmacies will now print hard copies of vaccine passes
(stuff.co.nz)--->My Vaccine Pass is an example of what you get when you rush a tech project
OPINION: “If you want summer, get vaccinated” has been the Government’s message to Kiwis for several weeks.
Failing to do so will mean “there will be everyday things you will miss out on”. That was the plan anyway. And it was a solid plan.
The implementation of that plan - using technology(!) - has been less impressive.
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Thirdly, and you couldn’t make this up, the My Vaccine Pass record was sent out as an editable PDF. Meaning anyone can edit their Pass’ name and date of birth, with the most basic of software, in a matter of seconds.
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Failing to do so will mean “there will be everyday things you will miss out on”. That was the plan anyway. And it was a solid plan.
The implementation of that plan - using technology(!) - has been less impressive.
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Thirdly, and you couldn’t make this up, the My Vaccine Pass record was sent out as an editable PDF. Meaning anyone can edit their Pass’ name and date of birth, with the most basic of software, in a matter of seconds.
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More policy in the run
(rnz.co.nz)--->Many pharmacies will now print hard copies of vaccine passes
People who cannot get their vaccine pass online, can now visit a pharmacy to have a hard copy printed out.
It is one of the new channels offered by the Ministry of Health to help people access their Covid-19 vaccine passes. More than 300 pharmacies are listed on Healthpoint as offering vaccinations and many of those will also print out or email vaccine passes to people. Some are yet to implement the service so people are being advised to call ahead to check.
Liv from Unichem Wellington Central Pharmacy said since it began printing passes yesterday, around 50 people had come in and used the service."We've had quite a few people come in, not so much that we can't keep up and we can still stay on top of our other pharmacy practices but it's been a pretty constant flow in the last few days."Many of those people were having trouble with using technology to download their own pass or had international forms of ID that could not be used to access their My Health account online, she said.
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Alongside the My COVID Record website, people can also call 0800 222 478 to request a physical copy of their pass. Ministry of Health national digital services group manager Michael Dreyer said call centres had faced "unprecedented demand" with more than 70,000 calls to the 0800 number on Thursday alone. There are now three call centres operating with extended hours to help people wanting to set up their My Covid Record, check their NHI number, or generate their My Vaccine Pass - which can be saved digitally or posted or emailed out to them.
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It is one of the new channels offered by the Ministry of Health to help people access their Covid-19 vaccine passes. More than 300 pharmacies are listed on Healthpoint as offering vaccinations and many of those will also print out or email vaccine passes to people. Some are yet to implement the service so people are being advised to call ahead to check.
Liv from Unichem Wellington Central Pharmacy said since it began printing passes yesterday, around 50 people had come in and used the service."We've had quite a few people come in, not so much that we can't keep up and we can still stay on top of our other pharmacy practices but it's been a pretty constant flow in the last few days."Many of those people were having trouble with using technology to download their own pass or had international forms of ID that could not be used to access their My Health account online, she said.
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Alongside the My COVID Record website, people can also call 0800 222 478 to request a physical copy of their pass. Ministry of Health national digital services group manager Michael Dreyer said call centres had faced "unprecedented demand" with more than 70,000 calls to the 0800 number on Thursday alone. There are now three call centres operating with extended hours to help people wanting to set up their My Covid Record, check their NHI number, or generate their My Vaccine Pass - which can be saved digitally or posted or emailed out to them.
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NZ Govt had months to do this. Covid pass have been talked about since vaccinations started. Did not need to be rushed. Just planning
(stuff.co.nz)--->My Vaccine Pass is an example of what you get when you rush a tech project
(stuff.co.nz)--->My Vaccine Pass is an example of what you get when you rush a tech project
ETA. I thought I would see if I can create an account. I get to the screen where you select a password and there is no "Confirm your password" box. People had better be sure that they click "show" to make sure that the password that they have selected is the one they thought they typed in. This is proper amateur hour imho.
Also, it does not seem to allow permanent residents to sign-up (my status). It's really not an issue for me but it seems odd.
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More to post 189 above and post 60 in Air NZ forum
(tvone.co.nz)--->Hipkins defends vaccine pass as up to 100K left waiting
The NZ Govt have know for months are many 1000's of people who have been vaccinated overseas and have come through MIQ. With prior planning that would not a problem today
As for minor name differences would think the unique NHI Number would identify.
The fine details of the vax passport system does not seem to be working (In AU have not read of similar issues)
(tvone.co.nz)--->Hipkins defends vaccine pass as up to 100K left waiting
Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins has defended the Government's vaccine pass rollout, as he said there are still up to 100,000 people waiting to get one.
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On Thursday, the Ministry of Health said around 70,000 Kiwis will be issued temporary exemptions from being required to produce a My Vaccine Pass while they await assistance obtaining them. The temporary exemption is a record of the individual’s request for assistance and has a unique identifier, the ministry said in a statement.
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>In his answer, Hipkins says that number is actually now higher but is being worked through. "If we break those numbers down, as of this morning, there were somewhere between 90 to 100,000 issues in the queue to be dealt with," he said." More than half of those are people who have been vaccinated overseas and are attempting to get their vaccines recognised in New Zealand, or they're people where there have been name-related issues in the way their records are in the system." For example, people who gave a slightly different variant of their name when they got their second dose compared to when they got their first dose and the system may not match them up well to generate their pass."
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On Thursday, the Ministry of Health said around 70,000 Kiwis will be issued temporary exemptions from being required to produce a My Vaccine Pass while they await assistance obtaining them. The temporary exemption is a record of the individual’s request for assistance and has a unique identifier, the ministry said in a statement.
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>In his answer, Hipkins says that number is actually now higher but is being worked through. "If we break those numbers down, as of this morning, there were somewhere between 90 to 100,000 issues in the queue to be dealt with," he said." More than half of those are people who have been vaccinated overseas and are attempting to get their vaccines recognised in New Zealand, or they're people where there have been name-related issues in the way their records are in the system." For example, people who gave a slightly different variant of their name when they got their second dose compared to when they got their first dose and the system may not match them up well to generate their pass."
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As for minor name differences would think the unique NHI Number would identify.
The fine details of the vax passport system does not seem to be working (In AU have not read of similar issues)
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The NZ Govt have know for months are many 1000's of people who have been vaccinated overseas and have come through MIQ. With prior planning that would not a problem today
As for minor name differences would think the unique NHI Number would identify.
The fine details of the vax passport system does not seem to be working (In AU have not read of similar issues)
As for minor name differences would think the unique NHI Number would identify.
The fine details of the vax passport system does not seem to be working (In AU have not read of similar issues)
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I wonder if in those 60-100k there are also people with an EU certificate, it should be easy enough to import into the NZ system since the opposite seems to be true.
In other news I got my CPVV within two weeks of applying and I got a decent fare to NZ for February. Fingers crossed it doesn't all go pear shaped!
In other news I got my CPVV within two weeks of applying and I got a decent fare to NZ for February. Fingers crossed it doesn't all go pear shaped!
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I wonder if in those 60-100k there are also people with an EU certificate, it should be easy enough to import into the NZ system since the opposite seems to be true.
In other news I got my CPVV within two weeks of applying and I got a decent fare to NZ for February. Fingers crossed it doesn't all go pear shaped!
In other news I got my CPVV within two weeks of applying and I got a decent fare to NZ for February. Fingers crossed it doesn't all go pear shaped!
In February would expect you will still need to do 7 (or 14?) days in quarantine. Today's MIQ lottery had slots up to March. Hope it all works out for you.
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...e-visitor-visa
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In February would expect you will still need to do 7 (or 14?) days in quarantine. Today's MIQ lottery had slots up to March. Hope it all works out for you.
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...e-visitor-visa
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...e-visitor-visa