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2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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#4756
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SFO
Programs: M&M Sen
Posts: 55
If you had a wife, she'd be thrilled about how you're helping effect world peace by getting more peeps to travel to each others lands
#4758
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York Metropolitan Area 45 km from JFK
Programs: UA,AA,AS,BA
Posts: 4,607
ST C4 Northern South America
#4759
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PBI
Programs: DL GM, CO, SWA
Posts: 391
#4762
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: KSEA
Programs: DL FO; KE; HA; ex AQ
Posts: 3
Hello, I am a software engineer with a history of FDing. ... just build up an application that will find things that nobody else has found. The latter seems more fun.
2. Is ITA going to be upset if I'm running a dedicated machine to find FDs 24/7? Will I have to keep changing my IP and everything? Their robots.txt file basically says "no robots!".
3. Is someone out there already doing this? I think the best way is using Mechanize and Beautiful Soup in Python/Ruby/Perl, but this isn't my area of expertise. Any pitfalls I should expect?
2. Is ITA going to be upset if I'm running a dedicated machine to find FDs 24/7? Will I have to keep changing my IP and everything? Their robots.txt file basically says "no robots!".
3. Is someone out there already doing this? I think the best way is using Mechanize and Beautiful Soup in Python/Ruby/Perl, but this isn't my area of expertise. Any pitfalls I should expect?
If you're making queries for your own use, and not commercial gain, and are not making them around the clock, you might be okay, but it's best to ask a lawyer and carefully go over the terms of service for ITA. Of course, you could just buy a license to their services if you really want to search around the clock. Changing your source IPs to get around bans or rate-limits is a big no-no. Look at what's happening with Aaron Swartz for doing that to access JSTOR. If they prevent you from accessing their service and you circumvent that, that's a crime. Take the hint.
You absolutely should not be screen-scraping. I mean, I cannot say what a poor (from a programming perspective) idea that is. It creates more work for their servers and more work for you. Even a trivial glance at the transactions between your browser and ITA would show you what their JSON query interface is like. It too me about an hour to write an automated query program (having no experience with web programming myself) and another few hours to make a set of presentation, sorting, etc., scripts I could live with. Don't make ITA do the presentation work for you for every request just to throw it away. That said, for tricked fares with a lot of constraints, transfers, etc., even that interface can take over a minute for a single fare. Usually on the order of 30-40 seconds for a RT with a 3x, or about 5-10 seconds if you just want to find cheap one-way fares to look for low base fares with or without lots of YQ.
#4765
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York Metropolitan Area 45 km from JFK
Programs: UA,AA,AS,BA
Posts: 4,607
If you start from an Island in Europe, you can avoid the Tix 1. wrap-around and get the price down to 435.00 Euros.
#4766
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AS, BA, AA
Posts: 3,670
In particular the Orbitz list may be helpful. I pasted it into Excel and it looks like it narrows it down to ~3700.
The problem is that a lot of the 3Xs are between minor airports.
#4767
Original Member, Ambassador: OneWorld Alliance
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Programs: AA ExecPlat & 3MM; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,015
I would start here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+airports
In particular the Orbitz list may be helpful. I pasted it into Excel and it looks like it narrows it down to ~3700.
The problem is that a lot of the 3Xs are between minor airports.
In particular the Orbitz list may be helpful. I pasted it into Excel and it looks like it narrows it down to ~3700.
The problem is that a lot of the 3Xs are between minor airports.
#4768
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Did anyone consider the ethics of having a YQ of 1200 Per Cent of the base fare = 12 times the Base Fare ( YQ 420.00 / $ 38.00 and listing it as a "TAX" . Listing it as a TAX implies that it is a mandatory charge imposed by a third party governmental/state/local entity ( with taxing power) and not a backdoor revenue enhancer going directly to the airlines bottom-line...
#4769
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AS MVPG75k
Posts: 353
Does this require OJ or extra segment(s) to successfully drop the YQ? You mentioned a 1x in your earlier triple decker post... does that still apply for this double decker?
Last edited by braffy; Aug 1, 2011 at 2:01 am Reason: clarification
#4770
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: DC
Posts: 33
I definitely agree. Did you use... ah, this is getting technical. I will PM you. Appreciate the feedback though!