Apr 4, 2014, 10:50 am
Last edit by: cesco.g
There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July
Apr 5, 2014, 9:11 am
#647
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Equip change on Y/P fare ticket?
Booked MSP-EWR-MPX/VCE-FRA-ORD-MSP for $1,495 yesterday for two pax. When booked, MSP-EWR was RJ145 so it ticketed in Y, all other segments in P.
Today the equip changes came through. MSP-EWR is now an E170. I have not accepted the changes via the online button, was thinking of calling UA to request P for the first segment since it was sold as a biz fare. Can that work?
If not, does Y allow us the extra room seats? Yesterday on the E145 they wanted $59 pp for exit row which seemed crazy for a ticket that is, in effect, full fare coach (Y, right?).
Thx.
Today the equip changes came through. MSP-EWR is now an E170. I have not accepted the changes via the online button, was thinking of calling UA to request P for the first segment since it was sold as a biz fare. Can that work?
If not, does Y allow us the extra room seats? Yesterday on the E145 they wanted $59 pp for exit row which seemed crazy for a ticket that is, in effect, full fare coach (Y, right?).
Thx.
Apr 5, 2014, 9:40 am
#648
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Getting P should not be a problem, just explain what happened.
Originally Posted by RaflW
Booked MSP-EWR-MPX/VCE-FRA-ORD-MSP for $1,495 yesterday for two pax. When booked, MSP-EWR was RJ145 so it ticketed in Y, all other segments in P.
Today the equip changes came through. MSP-EWR is now an E170. I have not accepted the changes via the online button, was thinking of calling UA to request P for the first segment since it was sold as a biz fare. Can that work?
If not, does Y allow us the extra room seats? Yesterday on the E145 they wanted $59 pp for exit row which seemed crazy for a ticket that is, in effect, full fare coach (Y, right?).
Thx.
Today the equip changes came through. MSP-EWR is now an E170. I have not accepted the changes via the online button, was thinking of calling UA to request P for the first segment since it was sold as a biz fare. Can that work?
If not, does Y allow us the extra room seats? Yesterday on the E145 they wanted $59 pp for exit row which seemed crazy for a ticket that is, in effect, full fare coach (Y, right?).
Thx.
Apr 5, 2014, 5:12 pm
#652
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I'm cancelling some of the tickets I bought for June and July travel within the "24-hour" window for a courtesy cancel (with the amount refunded less the Orbitz ticketing fee).
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
Apr 5, 2014, 5:16 pm
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RNE, a lunatic with a flair for the dramatic, and a diehard disbeliever in deal death.
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Apr 5, 2014, 5:32 pm
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I'm cancelling some of the tickets I bought for June and July travel within the "24-hour" window for a courtesy cancel (with the amount refunded less the Orbitz ticketing fee).
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
Apr 5, 2014, 5:42 pm
#656
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I'm cancelling some of the tickets I bought for June and July travel within the "24-hour" window for a courtesy cancel (with the amount refunded less the Orbitz ticketing fee).
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
I found a better deal using miles for TATL travel in June and July and decided to save the $1100-$1300 per ticket and use those funds later when a much better deal comes around.
What have I come to do.
I guess this is notice to some that you have until around 9pm or 10pm CDT on April 5th (today) to back out for the most part on purchases made on April 4th.
Apr 5, 2014, 7:30 pm
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No. AF-KL miles, but in economy class for June and July.
http://boardingarea.com/pointsmilesa...ummer-one-way/
25k+$300 per ticket vs. $1200 in business class per ticket. It wasn't an easy choice at first, but after a bit of deliberation I decided it was an easy choice for me. For others, it might not make as much sense as it did for me, especially when I'm sure there will be a better cents per mile deal in a premium cabin eventually and I have a good chance of getting in on it. As with many things, this is a case of YMMV.
http://boardingarea.com/pointsmilesa...ummer-one-way/
25k+$300 per ticket vs. $1200 in business class per ticket. It wasn't an easy choice at first, but after a bit of deliberation I decided it was an easy choice for me. For others, it might not make as much sense as it did for me, especially when I'm sure there will be a better cents per mile deal in a premium cabin eventually and I have a good chance of getting in on it. As with many things, this is a case of YMMV.
Apr 5, 2014, 9:10 pm
#658
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Many thanks to OP as I was able to book EUG-SFO-FRA-VCE-MUC-ORD-PDX-EUG for a long weekend in end of July. Booked 5 various routings before deciding on a final itinerary, one involved Rome but then decided against it because a weekend visit is too short. Perfect trip to complete my Plat status for 2015.
Apr 6, 2014, 12:04 am
#659
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I'm really surprised at how many people thought this is a normal sale and initiated by UA. It looked to me like DL filed this at $750 for 10 night stay and $1000 for saturday stay in United hubs and germany/switzerland/Austria to which UA went wild with $500 fares. Seems UA was somewhat retarded in filing below summer coach fares - showed up on places like the big o as the lowest fare. At least DL had fares slightly higher than coach. I wouldnt expect a deal this good to come back - especially for peak season