Apr 4, 14, 10:50 am
Last edit by: cesco.g
There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July
Apr 4, 14, 2:51 pm
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Apr 4, 14, 2:54 pm
#587
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Hi Freecia - can you tell if they switched equipment to a Skywest plane w/ no first cabin? If so I would still take it as the bulk of the flights are still in P (right?)
Even if not, you're right that you'd still earn 150% PQM from the Y fare class.
It would be a little ominous if they downgraded your ticket from P to Y if the plane still has a first cabin - perhaps they're chipping away at the fantastic deals they've given out?
Even if not, you're right that you'd still earn 150% PQM from the Y fare class.
It would be a little ominous if they downgraded your ticket from P to Y if the plane still has a first cabin - perhaps they're chipping away at the fantastic deals they've given out?
If they're going to chip away at the fantastic deal, is there some kind of downgrade compensation I should ask for or would the 3 min schedule change be enough to get a free rerouting/reschedule for a lie flat? I checked the seats on checkmytrip which shows seats assigned to 1C & 1D but lufthansa.com shows the P downgrade to Y with seat map for economy.
I don't want to be greedy but I also like a good deal
The LH portions are still P. My return Skywest LAX-SJC was already in Y but that's a shorter flight than SJC-DEN.
Apr 4, 14, 3:04 pm
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ITA still has it for Skyteam MSP to OTP (Bucharest). Sample date 8/12-8/23. $2058.
Presumably this is an add-on of First to ORD, and then picking up the deal from there. ORD-OTP is $1757. Spirit was showing ~$100 fares MSP-ORD.
It only shows ex-MSP if I use Skyteam in the advance routing code area.
Romelle
Presumably this is an add-on of First to ORD, and then picking up the deal from there. ORD-OTP is $1757. Spirit was showing ~$100 fares MSP-ORD.
It only shows ex-MSP if I use Skyteam in the advance routing code area.
Romelle
Apr 4, 14, 3:06 pm
#590
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Anyone else get the email from UA re: BusinessFirst sale?
It's a joke! They sent me an email to push a special summer sale, prices are in the $3-4k range, but have same terms and conditions as far as dates and purchase. Glad we all jumped on the REAL sale!
Apr 4, 14, 3:06 pm
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Great deal thanks ! $1530 SLC-BUD ai
What a great deal ! Managed to grab some flights for my birthday weekend in August, with a buddy- before they disappeared . Headed to Budapest from Salt lake City. SLC-SFO-ORD-MUC-BUD-MUC-YYZ-DEN-SLC for $1530 ai (business class). First flight in Y (CRJ 200) then its P to Budapest on United metal . Managed to get Z class for the Lufthansa flights home in a newly configured A330 .So will get 150% for all flights. 20k PQM and around 34 K redeemable after cabin and elite bonus. Thanks to those posting all the info on this great fare !
Last edited by grantos77; Apr 4, 14 at 3:07 pm Reason: change
Apr 4, 14, 3:12 pm
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They didn't switch equipment as it is still the CRJ700. Expertflyer shows that all of the Biz seats are available.
If they're going to chip away at the fantastic deal, is there some kind of downgrade compensation I should ask for or would the 3 min schedule change be enough to get a free rerouting/reschedule for a lie flat? I checked the seats on checkmytrip which shows seats assigned to 1C & 1D but lufthansa.com shows the P downgrade to Y with seat map for economy.
I don't want to be greedy but I also like a good deal
The LH portions are still P. My return Skywest LAX-SJC was already in Y but that's a shorter flight than SJC-DEN.
If they're going to chip away at the fantastic deal, is there some kind of downgrade compensation I should ask for or would the 3 min schedule change be enough to get a free rerouting/reschedule for a lie flat? I checked the seats on checkmytrip which shows seats assigned to 1C & 1D but lufthansa.com shows the P downgrade to Y with seat map for economy.
I don't want to be greedy but I also like a good deal
The LH portions are still P. My return Skywest LAX-SJC was already in Y but that's a shorter flight than SJC-DEN.
Just call and asked to be put in J on the segments in question or request a refund. How did a sched change out of SJC take you off a lie flat? There are no lie flat equip into/out of SJC.
Apr 4, 14, 3:14 pm
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Apr 4, 14, 3:28 pm
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Sorry if my message was confusing. DEN-FRA is an angle flat. Was wondering if the schedule change, insignificant as it is, would be enough to allow me to route through LAX-FRA which is a lie flat.
Apr 4, 14, 3:34 pm
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Edited to add; I do enjoy that the sale price for one of my segments, EWR-AMS, is $6905.
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Apr 4, 14, 3:43 pm
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Romelle
