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There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)

Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc

Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)

Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS

(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)

Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.

[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July

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Apr 1, 14, 2:35 pm

355F1

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[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July

WOW! Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares for less than $2k for July travel...

Jul 3 UA 3777 ATL 2:15PM IAD 3:55PM 1h 40m Canadair RJ 700 First (P)
Layover in IAD 1h 30m
UA 946 IAD 5:25PM AMS 7:15AM 7h 50m Boeing 767 Business (P)
Jul 14 UA 908 AMS 10:55AM ORD 12:55PM 9h 0m Boeing 767 Business (P)
Layover in ORD 3h 5m
UA 5566 ORD 4:00PM ATL 6:47PM 1h 47m Canadair RJ 700 First (P)
$1,972.00

Apr 1, 14, 2:42 pm

Sykes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

That same itin is now pricing $2671.40 for me. Still a reasonable deal. Pretty much every US Delta Hub -> Europe SkyTeam hub flight is running $2500-$3k on UA/LH/LX/SN/OS.

Apr 1, 14, 2:46 pm

sonomawine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

I am also seeing the same pricing using the OP dates for SEA/PDX/SMF but not SFO or LAX.

Apr 1, 14, 2:55 pm

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SEA-FLR/PSA UA Summer sale base fare PNC2S is showing as $1,000 on EF (the validation text shows $1,800 [now corrected to $1,000])

Confirmed on ITA $500 EW, YQ is $856

Last edited by Biggles209; Apr 1, 14 at 3:08 pm Reason: Add confirmation; add PSA

Apr 1, 14, 3:22 pm

FTstudent

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

WOW! Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares for less than $2k for July travel...

Definitely still happening. Looks like *A and ST are back at another hub attack.

Atlanta (ATL) to Copenhagen (CPH) - Thu, Jul 10
United Airlines, Inc. Atlanta (ATL) to Toronto (YYZ) - Thu, Jul 10
United Airlines, Inc. 8109 Dep: 5:00PM Arr: 7:09PM 2h 9m Canadair RJ 705 First (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA EXPRESS - JAZZ Layover in YYZ 1h 41m

United Airlines, Inc. Toronto (YYZ) to Copenhagen (CPH) - Thu, Jul 10
United Airlines, Inc. 8524 Dep: 8:50PM Arr: 10:25AM 7h 35m Airbus A330 Business (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA Fri, Jul 11

Copenhagen (CPH) to Atlanta (ATL) - Sun, Jul 13
United Airlines, Inc. Copenhagen (CPH) to Toronto (YYZ) - Sun, Jul 13
United Airlines, Inc. 8375 Dep: 12:20PM Arr: 2:40PM 8h 20m Airbus A330 Business (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA Layover in YYZ 2h 5m

United Airlines, Inc. Toronto (YYZ) to Atlanta (ATL) - Sun, Jul 13
United Airlines, Inc. 8108 Dep: 4:45PM Arr: 6:52PM 2h 7m Canadair RJ 705 First (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA EXPRESS - JAZZ

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,906.10
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,906.10

Apr 1, 14, 3:27 pm

Craig6z

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Seeing DTW-FCO on United business on selected July days for $1521 all in. Depending on routing, initial domestic segment maybe in coach.

Also LAS-FCO on some July days is about $1950.

Last edited by Craig6z; Apr 1, 14 at 3:47 pm

Apr 1, 14, 3:27 pm

CokeandTaco

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Originally Posted by 355F1

ANC/HNL/SJU as starting points also work....

Apr 1, 14, 3:58 pm

FTstudent

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Crazy. ALT-FCO is down to $1498 with departs on Thurs, Fri, Sat in July on *A

Great timing, since I booked the YYZ-BOM last night, and is probably insanity as a weekend trip.

Last edited by FTstudent; Apr 1, 14 at 4:21 pm

Apr 1, 14, 4:18 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sonomawine

I am also seeing the same pricing using the OP dates for SEA/PDX/SMF but not SFO or LAX.

$1500 for SEA-FCO in July, LH there, UA return. Great deal.

Apr 1, 14, 4:27 pm

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$1469 for SEA->AMS->SEA (via IAH both ways) on UA metal in P during July/August, can even do same day turnaround

Apr 1, 14, 5:00 pm

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Wow, yeah great weekend getaway for those from SEA! Did a sample PNR just to check --- very bookable - outbound through IAD returning with IAH - sample July 18 weekend below.

1 UA 419P 17JUL TH SEAIAD SS1 700A 250P/O $ J03 E
2 UA 946P 17JUL TH IADAMS SS1 525P 715A#1/O $ J03 E
3 UA 59P 20JUL SU AMSIAH SS1 1010A 130P/O $ J04 E
4 UA1459P 20JUL SU IAHSEA SS1 315P 600P/O $ J04 E

* NONREF/0VALUAFTDPT/CHGFEE
* PRICING RULES VALIDATING CARRIER DEFAULT UA
** 17JUL DEPARTURE DATE/ 04APR IS LAST DATE TO TICKET

TICKET BASE USD TX/FEE USD TKT TTL USD
*TTL 500.00 969.90 1469.90

*AS BOOKED
LOWEST FARE ALREADY BOOKED IN THIS COMPARTMENT
FBC ADT PNC2S
ADT SEA UA X/WAS UA AMS250.00UA X/HOU UA SEA250.00NUC500.00END

Last edited by Insiderdude; Apr 1, 14 at 5:28 pm

Apr 1, 14, 5:13 pm

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Working from SAN late June through mid-August.
P Class $1480 SAN-EWR-FCO.

Apr 1, 14, 5:17 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sonomawine

I am also seeing the same pricing using the OP dates for SEA/PDX/SMF but not SFO or LAX.

Now ~$1500 for pretty much all the fares. Booking a SMF fare for myself ... optimistic that a one of the United Express segments will have a schedule change and I'll be able to change it to SFO.

Worth noting that this works for UA/LX/LH. LX still awards 150% RDM/EQM when credited to UA if you want to try something a bit nicer.

Apr 1, 14, 5:24 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sykes

Now ~$1500 for pretty much all the fares. Booking a SMF fare for myself ... optimistic that a one of the United Express segments will have a schedule change and I'll be able to change it to SFO.

Worth noting that this works for UA/LX/LH. LX still awards 150% RDM/EQM when credited to UA if you want to try something a bit nicer.

sykes, SJC works, albeit at 1600...