Questions involving rollover nights [Many merged threads]
Jan 15, 2012, 9:53 pm
#961
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,689
...in exactly the opposite direction. I ended 2011 with 216 nights, 66 of which were rollover nights. As a PP I expected to start this year with 75 rollover nights. Instead, my account now shows 150 nights, all listed as rollover nights! Yes, 150 nights were also added to my lifetime total.
We're all so quick to complain when Marriott makes an error that harms us. Now I need to decide if I should notify them when they make an error in my favor. Of course this could be the ultimate Platinum benefit: roll over all nights beyond 0 ;-) I think I'll wait a few days to see if they fix this on their own.
We're all so quick to complain when Marriott makes an error that harms us. Now I need to decide if I should notify them when they make an error in my favor. Of course this could be the ultimate Platinum benefit: roll over all nights beyond 0 ;-) I think I'll wait a few days to see if they fix this on their own.
Jan 16, 2012, 4:44 am
#962
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CLT
Programs: AA-EXP, MR-PP
Posts: 3,440
Well I don't know how but...
I ended with total 110 nights (no PP I guess 110 nights is not top 3%).
Right now my status shows 56 bonus (rollover) and 4 this year for 60 total already. With CC and few stays already booked I am pretty much past requirement for Platinum for 2013.
I ended with total 110 nights (no PP I guess 110 nights is not top 3%).
Right now my status shows 56 bonus (rollover) and 4 this year for 60 total already. With CC and few stays already booked I am pretty much past requirement for Platinum for 2013.
Based on my calculations it should be 35 rollover nights.
I had 7 rollover last year and ended up with 110 total (bonus + BIB + rollover). If I subtract 75 it should be 35 left, not 28 left.
Jan 16, 2012, 4:49 am
#963
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MUC/HKT
Programs: UA1K;AAEXP;BAG
Posts: 595
Jan 16, 2012, 4:51 am
#964
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mesilla, NM
Programs: DL DM 4.7 MM MQM Marriott Ambassador Lifetime Titanium AA CK
Posts: 2,715
My account is correct
74 nights rolled over as PP. Had 3 nights this year so I am at 77.
Jan 16, 2012, 4:51 am
#965
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 18,662
The rollover from the previous year do not count. Thus, you need to subtract the 7, giving you the correct 28 nights.
Jan 16, 2012, 6:04 am
#966
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CLT
Programs: AA-EXP, MR-PP
Posts: 3,440
I subtract 75 nights (7 out of it are rollover) so basically whatever is above 75 counts, right? Unless you subtract 7 rollover nights twice then you get to 28.
So...
75 = 7 rollover + 68 regular
110 - 75 = 35
110 - (7 + 68) = 35
110 - (7 + 68) - 7 = 28
See, in their math 7 is counted twice.
Jan 16, 2012, 6:30 am
#967
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Rollover nights do not rollover the following year, so deducting them from the tier nights is not correct (75-7) and that's where your math goes astray.
Jan 16, 2012, 7:00 am
#968
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SDF
Programs: DL:360/DM/6 MMer; Bonvoy: Lifetime Titanium 10+M pts, 3100+ nights;
Posts: 1,441
Basically, rollover nights are only good for making a higher level and can't be rolled over again.
Jan 16, 2012, 7:44 am
#969
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
That's correct. Since your 110 nights is above the 75 nights needed, the 7 rollover nights go away (you didn't need them to make a level) so you have 103 nights less 75 is 28 rollover nights going into 2012. If you only say 47 nights in 2012 then the 28 is added to the 47 giving you 75 nights, making you Platinum for 2013 but with no rollover nights.
Basically, rollover nights are only good for making a higher level and can't be rolled over again.
Basically, rollover nights are only good for making a higher level and can't be rolled over again.
Let's say start 2012 with 50 rollover nights, I stay 50 nights in 2012 for a total of 100 nights in 2012, so 25 will rollover to 2013?
Jan 16, 2012, 7:49 am
#970
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: CLT
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 298
Regardless though, that's how they have it set up, so that's what we have to deal with.
Jan 16, 2012, 7:50 am
#971
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: CLT
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 298
Negative, you get zero rollover nights. Only actual stays over status requirement roll over. Since 50 minus 75 is less than 0, you get no rollover. See my above post as to why I think this is stupid, but that's the way it is.
Jan 16, 2012, 7:52 am
#972
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Aussie in ORD
Programs: Marriott Plat, Ua Gold, GE.. Sucker for punishment
Posts: 4,237
My Paltry 16 nights are there... Might actually make gold this year!
Jan 16, 2012, 8:05 am
#973
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SDF
Programs: DL:360/DM/6 MMer; Bonvoy: Lifetime Titanium 10+M pts, 3100+ nights;
Posts: 1,441
Nope. You'll get none. 50 nights + 25 rollover (of your 50) get you to 75 nights and Platinum status. The other 25 rollover nights weren't needed and so they "expire."
Jan 16, 2012, 8:11 am
#974
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
Ok, that is what I was afraid of. I don't want to complain about a program set up to help us out but this is rather frustrating. It also makes the calculation of nights cumbersome. I may end up with 117 total nights this year with no rollover into 2013.
Jan 16, 2012, 8:26 am
#975
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Location: South Florida
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Add the fact that rollover nights count twice towards lifetime status, it's a nice perk.