Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Apr 17, 2018, 11:58 am
#2821
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: BWI, PHL, IAD
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium; Mileage Plus 1K, 1 MM; Global Entry
Posts: 1,516
If you convert them today, they will NOT count toward LT status. However, I do not know how they will be treated when the programs are combined in August. in you situation I would just wait for August and see how things fall out.
Apr 17, 2018, 11:59 am
#2822
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: Marriott, IHG, Delta, United
Posts: 576
Well, we're "winners" in that 1 day ago we were all worried we were going to get busted down to an equivalent to today's Silver, have the Travel Packages ripped away, and have a dynamic program.
We "won" in that Marriott left the fundamental piece of today's Gold status - breakfast/lounge - intact.
And I think there's one more shoe to drop that will make the new Platinum Premier status actually worth it: it would not shock me at all if United bumped up the Silver requirement to PP, keeping it at basically the 75-night level like it was. In other words, I am *not* expecting Star Silver as a regular Platinum after August 1st - I think you're going to need Plat Premier for that. I haven't seen it called out clearly yet, but I would think that UA and Marriott would want to keep that program somewhat where it was before.
We "won" in that Marriott left the fundamental piece of today's Gold status - breakfast/lounge - intact.
And I think there's one more shoe to drop that will make the new Platinum Premier status actually worth it: it would not shock me at all if United bumped up the Silver requirement to PP, keeping it at basically the 75-night level like it was. In other words, I am *not* expecting Star Silver as a regular Platinum after August 1st - I think you're going to need Plat Premier for that. I haven't seen it called out clearly yet, but I would think that UA and Marriott would want to keep that program somewhat where it was before.
"There are no changes to the United RewardsPlus offering. If you have Platinum Premier Elite status, you will still be able to link and upgrade your United MileagePlus Account to Premier® Silver status."
Note that it specifically states Platinum PREMIER, and not just Platinum. Which means, you will still need 75 nights going forward (just like the old Marriott program) to get United Silver. Arguably for some, United Silver is a benefit that would make Platinum Premeir (75+ nights) more valuable than the new 50 night Platinum.
Link for referenced info:
https://members.marriott.com/faq/#ar...ed-mileageplus
Apr 17, 2018, 12:07 pm
#2823
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: AGS, CAE, ATL
Programs: Delta PM 2MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 511
Now that the programs are about to merge, is it worth it to have the Marriott Visa Signature and the SPG Amex; as I doudt they would give you duplicate benefits.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:34 pm
#2824
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
So does this mean they will merge in SPG lifetime points with MR lifetime points? I have 650 nights + 1.1million in Marriott and 370 and I'm not sure how many in SPG but i'm positive it's at least 300k which would ensure I had over 2 million when they combined and well over 750 if they combined.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:50 pm
#2825
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
I'm not sure about your #2 . You can buy 50k. You can transfer in 50k from another MR account. Those increase your LT total.
I'm not following the spousal SPG account. In today's system, SPG -> MR transfers happen instantaneously, but don't increment your LT counter. (I tested this to reconfirm it 1 hour ago with 1,000 points.) So I'm not sure how you get the 185k counting towards the legacy LTP status in your account.
Admittedly, how things behave after August 1 when there's a combined account is a mystery to me. It sounds like they'll still be tracking "heritage Marriott source" separately from "heritage Starwood source" after that date, and you'll probably have to track it yourself manually to know for sure.
I'm also interested in cheap sources of points for later this summer or early fall. Marriott has always been one that had limited partner transfer-in options. (Probably one of the reasons that they've had comparatively little point inflation over the years. Most people get Marriott points by actually staying in hotels.) I'm already holding two MR Visas and one SPG Amex so new sign-up bonuses are not a source of points for me.
I'm not following the spousal SPG account. In today's system, SPG -> MR transfers happen instantaneously, but don't increment your LT counter. (I tested this to reconfirm it 1 hour ago with 1,000 points.) So I'm not sure how you get the 185k counting towards the legacy LTP status in your account.
Admittedly, how things behave after August 1 when there's a combined account is a mystery to me. It sounds like they'll still be tracking "heritage Marriott source" separately from "heritage Starwood source" after that date, and you'll probably have to track it yourself manually to know for sure.
I'm also interested in cheap sources of points for later this summer or early fall. Marriott has always been one that had limited partner transfer-in options. (Probably one of the reasons that they've had comparatively little point inflation over the years. Most people get Marriott points by actually staying in hotels.) I'm already holding two MR Visas and one SPG Amex so new sign-up bonuses are not a source of points for me.
1) Have spouse create their own Marriott Rewards account and transfer SPG points to that Marriott account.
2) Have spouse call Marriott Rewards customer service and transfer Marriott points from their account to yours. If its 50k or less annually they will just do it. Your lifetime balance should go up, theirs will go down (on a brand new account, yes, they will have a negative balance since they started with 0 due to the SPG->MR transfer)
3) If need to transfer more than 50k, this MIGHT work
3a) Create a dummy hotel reservation that requires many more points than you have, but enough that it covers how many you want (let's say 160k points)
3b) When calling Marriott tell them you are transferring for that award reservation (the rules say above 50k is allowed for an award). They will issue an award ticket for the reservation, so you will end up with 0 and an award cert. But you will get the lifetime credit.
3c) Call back later and cancel the award cert.. the points should just redeposit into your account.
If there's some sort of weird claw back eventually in the system, I don't know. In my case I'm easily Lifetime Gold now, Lifetime Platinum later without ANY transferred points.. but if I decide to try for Lifetime Platinum now, lifetime Platinum Premier later, I may be playing this game. On the fence if the extra bonus points and few other trinkets is worth it, but tempted because I know I won't get another chance to be lifetime PeePee. Heh.
Apr 17, 2018, 12:59 pm
#2826
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
How to bump your lifetime counter with SPG->Marriott Rewards point transfer from a spouse or other:
1) Have spouse create their own Marriott Rewards account and transfer SPG points to that Marriott account.
2) Have spouse call Marriott Rewards customer service and transfer Marriott points from their account to yours. If its 50k or less annually they will just do it. Your lifetime balance should go up, theirs will go down (on a brand new account, yes, they will have a negative balance since they started with 0 due to the SPG->MR transfer)
3) If need to transfer more than 50k, this MIGHT work
3a) Create a dummy hotel reservation that requires many more points than you have, but enough that it covers how many you want (let's say 160k points)
3b) When calling Marriott tell them you are transferring for that award reservation (the rules say above 50k is allowed for an award). They will issue an award ticket for the reservation, so you will end up with 0 and an award cert. But you will get the lifetime credit.
3c) Call back later and cancel the award cert.. the points should just redeposit into your account.
If there's some sort of weird claw back eventually in the system, I don't know. In my case I'm easily Lifetime Gold now, Lifetime Platinum later without ANY transferred points.. but if I decide to try for Lifetime Platinum now, lifetime Platinum Premier later, I may be playing this game. On the fence if the extra bonus points and few other trinkets is worth it, but tempted because I know I won't get another chance to be lifetime PeePee. Heh.
1) Have spouse create their own Marriott Rewards account and transfer SPG points to that Marriott account.
2) Have spouse call Marriott Rewards customer service and transfer Marriott points from their account to yours. If its 50k or less annually they will just do it. Your lifetime balance should go up, theirs will go down (on a brand new account, yes, they will have a negative balance since they started with 0 due to the SPG->MR transfer)
3) If need to transfer more than 50k, this MIGHT work
3a) Create a dummy hotel reservation that requires many more points than you have, but enough that it covers how many you want (let's say 160k points)
3b) When calling Marriott tell them you are transferring for that award reservation (the rules say above 50k is allowed for an award). They will issue an award ticket for the reservation, so you will end up with 0 and an award cert. But you will get the lifetime credit.
3c) Call back later and cancel the award cert.. the points should just redeposit into your account.
If there's some sort of weird claw back eventually in the system, I don't know. In my case I'm easily Lifetime Gold now, Lifetime Platinum later without ANY transferred points.. but if I decide to try for Lifetime Platinum now, lifetime Platinum Premier later, I may be playing this game. On the fence if the extra bonus points and few other trinkets is worth it, but tempted because I know I won't get another chance to be lifetime PeePee. Heh.
So the two salient points here are:
(1) I'm allowed to transfer my SPG points to a spouse's SPG account. (Or directly to a spouse's MR account?)
(2) My spouse can transfer a lot more than 50k MR to me if I'm immediately redeeming an award. Which I'd actually do for a Travel Package, so that part would be legit.
In other words, if I had 85k SPG points right now, I could do all of this and get my 250k MR. If both of these points hold true...
Apr 17, 2018, 1:09 pm
#2827
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
Thanks for the explanation.
So the two salient points here are:
(1) I'm allowed to transfer my SPG points to a spouse's SPG account. (Or directly to a spouse's MR account?)
(2) My spouse can transfer a lot more than 50k MR to me if I'm immediately redeeming an award. Which I'd actually do for a Travel Package, so that part would be legit.
In other words, if I had 85k SPG points right now, I could do all of this and get my 250k MR. If both of these points hold true...
So the two salient points here are:
(1) I'm allowed to transfer my SPG points to a spouse's SPG account. (Or directly to a spouse's MR account?)
(2) My spouse can transfer a lot more than 50k MR to me if I'm immediately redeeming an award. Which I'd actually do for a Travel Package, so that part would be legit.
In other words, if I had 85k SPG points right now, I could do all of this and get my 250k MR. If both of these points hold true...
And yes, you can redeem for more than 50k when transferring to an award -- if you have legitimate reason for an award that's even better.
The key point is SPG->Marriott transfer -- does not change either's lifetime balance. Marriott->Marriott transfer -- does change Marriott lifetime balance. SPG->SPG transfer -- ask on SPG board? I don't know.
Apr 17, 2018, 1:19 pm
#2828
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago area
Programs: Marriott Platinum, AA Gold
Posts: 50
This thread is actually about "Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status" 
The discussion/quotes around this seem to make it clear that everyone earns 5 at 50 and 5 at 75, though I agree that's not what the table indicates.
It also indicates a 100 nt/Ambassador status would never earn any. I don't believe either of those is correct. It would be a stunningly bad program design.
The discussion/quotes around this seem to make it clear that everyone earns 5 at 50 and 5 at 75, though I agree that's not what the table indicates.
It also indicates a 100 nt/Ambassador status would never earn any. I don't believe either of those is correct. It would be a stunningly bad program design.
Anyway, I hope that's true...
Apr 17, 2018, 1:26 pm
#2829
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 87
Can I ask a (probably slightly dumb) question about how 'years elite' is calculated, for the purposes of Lifetime status?
If I (re)qualify for Platinum status this year (2018), that's 1 year elite.
Then in 2019, I do NOT qualify; I'm Platinum that year, but I didn't qualify (renew) that year.
In 2020, my status is downgraded. I then do the required nights and qualify for platinum in 2020.
Does that described pattern count as three years elite, or just two, according to the Marriott scheme?
Thanks very much!
If I (re)qualify for Platinum status this year (2018), that's 1 year elite.
Then in 2019, I do NOT qualify; I'm Platinum that year, but I didn't qualify (renew) that year.
In 2020, my status is downgraded. I then do the required nights and qualify for platinum in 2020.
Does that described pattern count as three years elite, or just two, according to the Marriott scheme?
Thanks very much!
Apr 17, 2018, 2:03 pm
#2830
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2
Platinum Premier Grandfathering Concern
I'm adding this post per a conversation I had with a Rewards customer service agent that was ultimately escalated to higher levels at Marriott based on concerns with my personal situation. I currently hold lifetime gold status at both Marriott as well as at SPG (Marriott - 700 nights, 1.7M+ points; SPG - 350 nights, 700,000 pre-3:1 converted points, 2.1M post-converted points). Although I'm not going to hit LTP in either program by August, I expressed concern about not being grandfathered in to lifetime platinum premier status based on the fact that as an example, there could be a Marriott LTP member that barely qualified for LTP status granted this higher status versus someone like me, whose aggregate nights and points post-merger would be significantly higher than many legacy LTP members (which to me doesn't seem to reward someone that falls into this sliver of a situation which I'm sure many of you reading this do). For me personally, I'll have over 1,000 nights and over 3.5M+ lifetime points post-consolidation and felt that this shouldn't be overlooked. I was assured after talking with higher ups that someone in my situation would be grandfathered into lifetime platinum premier based on the order of operations they will execute the program merger and this idea that you have until the end of the calendar year to achieve the status in either program. I would encourage anyone else that falls into a similar situation to definitely call in and validate what I'm saying to ensure that this actually does come to pass (aka. the more of us that call I think the better).
Apr 17, 2018, 2:17 pm
#2831
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1P-1MM, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,930
I'm adding this post per a conversation I had with a Rewards customer service agent that was ultimately escalated to higher levels at Marriott based on concerns with my personal situation. I currently hold lifetime gold status at both Marriott as well as at SPG (Marriott - 700 nights, 1.7M+ points; SPG - 350 nights, 700,000 pre-3:1 converted points, 2.1M post-converted points). Although I'm not going to hit LTP in either program by August, I expressed concern about not being grandfathered in to lifetime platinum premier status based on the fact that as an example, there could be a Marriott LTP member that barely qualified for LTP status granted this higher status versus someone like me, whose aggregate nights and points post-merger would be significantly higher than many legacy LTP members (which to me doesn't seem to reward someone that falls into this sliver of a situation which I'm sure many of you reading this do). For me personally, I'll have over 1,000 nights and over 3.5M+ lifetime points post-consolidation and felt that this shouldn't be overlooked. I was assured after talking with higher ups that someone in my situation would be grandfathered into lifetime platinum premier based on the order of operations they will execute the program merger and this idea that you have until the end of the calendar year to achieve the status in either program. I would encourage anyone else that falls into a similar situation to definitely call in and validate what I'm saying to ensure that this actually does come to pass (aka. the more of us that call I think the better).
Apr 17, 2018, 2:22 pm
#2832
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
I'm adding this post per a conversation I had with a Rewards customer service agent that was ultimately escalated to higher levels at Marriott based on concerns with my personal situation. I currently hold lifetime gold status at both Marriott as well as at SPG (Marriott - 700 nights, 1.7M+ points; SPG - 350 nights, 700,000 pre-3:1 converted points, 2.1M post-converted points). Although I'm not going to hit LTP in either program by August, I expressed concern about not being grandfathered in to lifetime platinum premier status based on the fact that as an example, there could be a Marriott LTP member that barely qualified for LTP status granted this higher status versus someone like me, whose aggregate nights and points post-merger would be significantly higher than many legacy LTP members (which to me doesn't seem to reward someone that falls into this sliver of a situation which I'm sure many of you reading this do). For me personally, I'll have over 1,000 nights and over 3.5M+ lifetime points post-consolidation and felt that this shouldn't be overlooked. I was assured after talking with higher ups that someone in my situation would be grandfathered into lifetime platinum premier based on the order of operations they will execute the program merger and this idea that you have until the end of the calendar year to achieve the status in either program. I would encourage anyone else that falls into a similar situation to definitely call in and validate what I'm saying to ensure that this actually does come to pass (aka. the more of us that call I think the better).
By what you were told, I'm LTPP right now. Probably a *lot* of Marriott LTGs reading this right now are as well, assuming they've run into a few SPG stays in their life. I don't interpret the rules this loose, but I guess Marriott now has a couple months to publish an answer to every crazy scenario that Flyertalkers can come up with.
(I have no doubt we'll cover them all.)
Apr 17, 2018, 2:26 pm
#2833
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
You can transfer SPG points in between people directly without using Marriott Rewards, but then your lifetime counter for Marriott obviously doesn't change. I don't know if your lifetime counter for SPG changes.
And yes, you can redeem for more than 50k when transferring to an award -- if you have legitimate reason for an award that's even better.
The key point is SPG->Marriott transfer -- does not change either's lifetime balance. Marriott->Marriott transfer -- does change Marriott lifetime balance. SPG->SPG transfer -- ask on SPG board? I don't know.
And yes, you can redeem for more than 50k when transferring to an award -- if you have legitimate reason for an award that's even better.
The key point is SPG->Marriott transfer -- does not change either's lifetime balance. Marriott->Marriott transfer -- does change Marriott lifetime balance. SPG->SPG transfer -- ask on SPG board? I don't know.
(1) I have a bunch of SPG points. I set up an account for my wife, and directly transfer all of my points to her new SPG account.
(2) Wife transfers all of her SPG points to her Marriott account.
(3) Wife transfers all of her Marriott points to me as I'm redeeming a Travel Package.
It's all legit. My wife actually exists (
), shares my address, and we'll use the Travel Package. Only question I guess would be whether there's an annual cap on the SPG side.Lifetime points on the SPG side doesn't matter to me: I'm not close to the years-of-Plat needed to be an SPG LT Plat. Only the Marriott LT points matter, which should go up for me with Step 3 in this process.
Apr 17, 2018, 2:37 pm
#2834
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: PHL
Programs: Marriott LTT, Amtrak Select, Hertz 5*, AA Gold, IHG Plat, National Exec
Posts: 1,312
This feels *too* generous. The wording of the grandfathering seems to specifically rewards people who hit the LTP tier based on the legacy requirement. The combining happens afterwards and is designed to allocate "new" LTG and LTP to people who have a lot of activity across the two programs.
By what you were told, I'm LTPP right now. Probably a *lot* of Marriott LTGs reading this right now are as well, assuming they've run into a few SPG stays in their life. I don't interpret the rules this loose, but I guess Marriott now has a couple months to publish an answer to every crazy scenario that Flyertalkers can come up with. (I have no doubt we'll cover them all.)
By what you were told, I'm LTPP right now. Probably a *lot* of Marriott LTGs reading this right now are as well, assuming they've run into a few SPG stays in their life. I don't interpret the rules this loose, but I guess Marriott now has a couple months to publish an answer to every crazy scenario that Flyertalkers can come up with.
(I have no doubt we'll cover them all.)
Apr 17, 2018, 2:37 pm
#2835
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
I'm adding this post per a conversation I had with a Rewards customer service agent that was ultimately escalated to higher levels at Marriott based on concerns with my personal situation. I currently hold lifetime gold status at both Marriott as well as at SPG (Marriott - 700 nights, 1.7M+ points; SPG - 350 nights, 700,000 pre-3:1 converted points, 2.1M post-converted points). Although I'm not going to hit LTP in either program by August, I expressed concern about not being grandfathered in to lifetime platinum premier status based on the fact that as an example, there could be a Marriott LTP member that barely qualified for LTP status granted this higher status versus someone like me, whose aggregate nights and points post-merger would be significantly higher than many legacy LTP members (which to me doesn't seem to reward someone that falls into this sliver of a situation which I'm sure many of you reading this do). For me personally, I'll have over 1,000 nights and over 3.5M+ lifetime points post-consolidation and felt that this shouldn't be overlooked. I was assured after talking with higher ups that someone in my situation would be grandfathered into lifetime platinum premier based on the order of operations they will execute the program merger and this idea that you have until the end of the calendar year to achieve the status in either program. I would encourage anyone else that falls into a similar situation to definitely call in and validate what I'm saying to ensure that this actually does come to pass (aka. the more of us that call I think the better).