Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Apr 17, 2018, 8:46 am
#2791
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
this is from the website and my confusion
"In addition, when you combine Rewards and SPG accounts we will combine your lifetime activity across both toward Lifetime Elite status in the new combined program. Members will have until year-end 2018 to complete stays in order to achieve the Lifetime Elite status thresholds to be grandfathered in at the previous thresholds for Rewards or SPG."
if I read this I understand that they will be combining points and nights and if you meet the thresholds by the end of 2018 you will be grandfathered in.
"In addition, when you combine Rewards and SPG accounts we will combine your lifetime activity across both toward Lifetime Elite status in the new combined program. Members will have until year-end 2018 to complete stays in order to achieve the Lifetime Elite status thresholds to be grandfathered in at the previous thresholds for Rewards or SPG."
if I read this I understand that they will be combining points and nights and if you meet the thresholds by the end of 2018 you will be grandfathered in.
Apr 17, 2018, 8:55 am
#2792
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,518
(2) Can past years in SPG status and in MR status be aggregated to meet the 7 or 10 year status requirements? In other words, if someone has 600 nights and was an SPG Plat for 5 years and an MR Plat for those same 5 years, does he or she have the necessary 10 years in Platinum Elite status? I can imagine that the answer to this question might be "Yes, but not counting 2017 or 2018 if your sole reason for having status in one program was that you had linked your status in the other program." But has MR given any information on this, or any hints?
VftW:
For [lifetime] status under the new system, years of status in both the legacy Starwood and Marriott programs count — indeed if you have status in both programs in the same year, that’s two years of status.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:17 am
#2793
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SE USA
Programs: DL DM/MM , IHG Plat, MR Titanium, HH Gold, EK Frequent Kettle, UA Silver, AA Hater
Posts: 2,020
I hope you are correct as I'd have about 8 years of MR Gold (current program) which is over 50 nights. I don't see it explained anywhere in the communication so I'm not banking on it until I see it happen. I'm a little over 500 nights too. So I'd not be far from LT Plat, which I'd be very happy with. Overall, I'm pleased with the changes, or lack of changes, and I'm glad 50 nights still means something both ongoing and for LT. If it didn't, I'd probably stay at Marriotts when convenient but otherwise pick hotels based on the property and price.
I'd also like to see my years at Gold on the web site. I suppose I could call, but it really doesn't matter until they clarify the conversion.
I'd also like to see my years at Gold on the web site. I suppose I could call, but it really doesn't matter until they clarify the conversion.
Also, giving you credit for MR Gold towards the new Plat makes sense but this conflicts with the actual wording of the document. I won't make it without this either, most of my Plat years are SPG but I have several years of MR Gold (which they can't seem to find).
Last edited by dilbertsdaddy; Apr 17, 2018 at 9:24 am
Apr 17, 2018, 9:20 am
#2794
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,010
Level alignment is in the program announcements.
If you had LT Gold in MR you have LT Platinum in the new program. If you had LT Gold in SPG, you have LT Gold in the new program.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:22 am
#2795
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1P-1MM, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,930
Of course, SPG also included qualification from having the SPG Amex (spend $30K and get Gold status) in their calculation of years of Elite status and as I noted up-thread, did not include years you might have been comped (soft landing) status.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:25 am
#2796
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Posts: 31,010
Separately, they will combine your history in both programs and you can earn the status in the "Starting in August, you’ll be able to qualify instantly for one of our three Lifetime tiers" table.
That's why they're labelled "Status Today' and "Starting in August". And "grandfathered in at the *previous thresholds* for Rewards or SPG"
I see nothing that indicates they will combine program numbers then retroactively see how you would have qualified under the old individual program rules with that combined data and reclassify your "Today" status for one-time conversion purposes.
Last edited by CPRich; Apr 17, 2018 at 9:37 am
Apr 17, 2018, 9:25 am
#2797
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
My current situation:
Marriott:
- 730 LT Nights
- 1.75 million LT points
- Current LT Gold
- Many years (>10) as Gold or Plat
Starwood
- 110 LT Nights
- Don't know, but probably around 600k LT points
- Few years (3-4) as Plat
- 50k sitting in the account right now
Let's say hypothetically I want to make a run at LTPP by Dec 31, 2018. This is what I'm assuming I need to do:
- On August 1, I get an LTP card, simply because of my existing LTG status.
- I need 20 nights and 250k points by Dec 31 to reach LTPP.
- Between now and August 1, only points and nights at heritage-Marriott brands count.
- Between August 1 and Dec 31, I don't know...does a stay at a Westin count? Or not?
- Do the 600k Lifetime SPG or the 50k sitting in my SPG account ever factor in to LTPP? (I'm guessing no.)
The 20 nights will be easy. I'll get that through my regular business trips plus a few personal trips. The 250k *could* be a stretch, depending on what counts. I could do something funky, like redeem a United TP and then convert the United miles back to Marriott to create 50k (that's the cap), but I'd rather not waste a bunch of FF miles if I don't have to.
I'm thinking LTPP might be a nice status to have, given that it will finally be called out as an official status, meaning some hotels might really pay attention to it.
Marriott:
- 730 LT Nights
- 1.75 million LT points
- Current LT Gold
- Many years (>10) as Gold or Plat
Starwood
- 110 LT Nights
- Don't know, but probably around 600k LT points
- Few years (3-4) as Plat
- 50k sitting in the account right now
Let's say hypothetically I want to make a run at LTPP by Dec 31, 2018. This is what I'm assuming I need to do:
- On August 1, I get an LTP card, simply because of my existing LTG status.
- I need 20 nights and 250k points by Dec 31 to reach LTPP.
- Between now and August 1, only points and nights at heritage-Marriott brands count.
- Between August 1 and Dec 31, I don't know...does a stay at a Westin count? Or not?
- Do the 600k Lifetime SPG or the 50k sitting in my SPG account ever factor in to LTPP? (I'm guessing no.)
The 20 nights will be easy. I'll get that through my regular business trips plus a few personal trips. The 250k *could* be a stretch, depending on what counts. I could do something funky, like redeem a United TP and then convert the United miles back to Marriott to create 50k (that's the cap), but I'd rather not waste a bunch of FF miles if I don't have to.
I'm thinking LTPP might be a nice status to have, given that it will finally be called out as an official status, meaning some hotels might really pay attention to it.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:29 am
#2798
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
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From earlier - yes, it clearly states that if you earned elite status in both programs in the same year, you would earn 2 years of elite status credit.
For the level you earned, obviously. So if you were SPG Gold and MR PLT one year, you earned 2 years towards the "7 years Gold or higher" but only 1 year towards the "10 years Platinum".
For the level you earned, obviously. So if you were SPG Gold and MR PLT one year, you earned 2 years towards the "7 years Gold or higher" but only 1 year towards the "10 years Platinum".
Apr 17, 2018, 9:32 am
#2799
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It's analogous to:
If you have 100 SPG nights by 12/31, you have Ambassador status next year as you met the SPG criteria, with no spend requirement.
If you have 95 SPG nights and 5 MR nights by 12/31, you also need $20K spend. You didn't meet the SPG legacy criteria, so you need to meet the new program criteria.
In this case, there is no new program criteria. You need to meet the MR LT PLT numbers by 12/31. It's a bit of a one-time only thing, as there is no go-forward LT PP criteria.
(All according to my understanding, of course, and subject to change. But I don't see 600 SPG nights getting LT PP - 750, matching MR, maybe)
Apr 17, 2018, 9:36 am
#2800
Join Date: May 2005
Location: London, England, United Kingdom
Programs: Marriott (Lifetime Titantium), whatever other programs as benefits make sense.
Posts: 1,921
Another question is how - if at all - soft landing or "close enough" years in status would count under the new program? Do the years when I didn't make Platinum but was granted it anyway count as years as Plat, or is it based on the actual nights?
Apr 17, 2018, 9:40 am
#2801
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That's an interesting question. I believe SPG was clear that comped years weren't counted. But I've seen no documentation either way.
"achievement at that level" would imply you need to earn it, but that's far from clear.
"achievement at that level" would imply you need to earn it, but that's far from clear.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:45 am
#2802
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta Gold, UA Plat. Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Plat. Hilton Plat. US Airways, Starwood Gold, Avis Pres
Posts: 1,382
Happy as a CURRENT LTP Member
Seems like the winners are current Marriott LTP members, like myself- Thankful
Apr 17, 2018, 9:55 am
#2803
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This thread is actually about "Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status" 
The discussion/quotes around this seem to make it clear that everyone earns 5 at 50 and 5 at 75, though I agree that's not what the table indicates.
It also indicates a 100 nt/Ambassador status would never earn any. I don't believe either of those is correct. It would be a stunningly bad program design.
It also indicates a 100 nt/Ambassador status would never earn any. I don't believe either of those is correct. It would be a stunningly bad program design.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:58 am
#2804
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MR LTP members are where they should be, as are typical 5xx night LTP SPG members (and everyone else). But having no higher possibility there, even for folks with 1500 SPG nights, doesn't seem right. And I won't be surprised if it's changed.
I was both, so I guess I came out OK.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:58 am
#2805
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 47
IYES. I bought points in January. They posted just like regular points and were added to lifetime total. That is a quick way to get points before August. There is a 50000 point limit for purchase