It's worth 300k points if you have 7 nights planned at one hotel before the certificate expires. I only had one possible trip to make use of it and the economics just didn't work for me. I ended up cancelling my 7 night award stay at the Prince Sakura Tower Tokyo and replaced it with 6 nights and a later stay of 1 night at the Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho (which is arguably the best hard product in Japan) with LNF rates of 200k JPY total for the 7 nights.

Now I can take 120k of the points and use them at Suiran Kyoto which I was going to end up paying 220K JPY cash for two nights at, and I'll use the 45k plus 15k extra points for another Cat8 booking. It's not often that I end up spending 7 nights somewhere.

Whats the best way to book a 7 night travel package certificate on someone else' name? Say certificate is in John's account and John wants to book it for Mike?

Method 1
- Book 7 night using points option from John's account online
- Call and change the guest name to Mike
- Attach the certificate
- The reservation is completely under Mike's name now. I was able to do this but worried Mike might have problems when checking in since the reservation does not even have John's name (certificate owner)

Method 2
- Book 7 night using points option from John's account online
- Call and add Mike's name as 2nd guest
- Attach the certificate
- I hope they won't want both the guests to be present when checking in? Also, since there is no way to see 2nd guest name on the reservation, I am worried if they did not do it right, we will never know until checking in? That's another risk here?

Yes, there is. Reported in this thread.

My bad. I somehow missed that.

Don't feel bad. It is easy to miss in this huge thread. There is only one verified report of an NC7 conversion and that information never got added to the Wiki so it is even easier to miss.

I am waiting to see if some brave soul will attempt to use the NC7 cert information to upgrade their OC cert to an NC7. The person who got the only verified NC7 converted from a OC Tier 4-5 so he was entitled to it. Evidently very few folks bought the Tier 4-5 package.

UKunlimited was the user and it was: Can someone add to the wiki?

Rumor is, the change wont occur until March.

NC7 is available as someone has converted his Tier 4-5 cert to NC7.

Yes. Check the wiki for package IDs. Information should be in the thread somewhere.

I never disclosed what my NC7 was converted from ...

What was it? :)

Still sitting on my OC5 from pre-merger. Expires May 15, 2019.

When I convert it to NC4, does is automatically take on the expiration date of 1 year from the time of my phone call? Or do I have to specifically request that as we used to do pre-merger?

Plan on calling in early May 2019 to do the conversion. Don't plan on picking a hotel until later that year, and plan to stay in February 2020.

Typically it's 1 year from conversion, but some agents back date it (only a few cases)

Actually, it is interesting. They should automatically extend the validity of the certificate for a year when you switch from OC to NC.

In my case, now I think the manager allowed me to upgrade mine because I requested to be immediately attached to a reservation I have for next Monday. I think that is also the reason why he credited me with 30,000 extra points to cover the upgrade, as he knew it would be one less OC certificate out there to worry about :rolleyes:

And yes, If allowed by rules, I would have bought the NC6 Certificate from "NexusCFM" and used it for the same Marriott Maui hotel but in 2019 from Christmas to new years. Rooms have been in the $800 to $1,000 a night. I would have made the reservation and attached the NC before March's devaluation (peek non peek system).

I did both. And the agent can't do either of them. So I decide to keep the cert for some other time and book other hotels...