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griff228 Dec 18, 2018 8:39 am

Expiring 7-night P830 Package
 
I have a P830 7-night old Cat 1-5 certificate that I got with a package in 2016. I extended the certificate last year and it expires on 12/28/2018. I should actually be able to use the 7-nights next year if I’m able to extend again.

I’ve tried to read this thread but am a bit confused. If I call and have the certificate converted to the new QP83, should it automatically extend the due date one year? Am I taking any risks by doing this - if the agent overrides the due date extension and makes the certificate expire on the original due date will I also lose the ability to receive 45,000 points from canceling the old certificate? In that case I won’t be able to use the certificate since it expires in 10 days and I’d miss out on 45,000 points.

Should I try to convert for the extension or just cancel for 45,000 points?

nexusCFX Dec 18, 2018 10:51 am

I have a NC6 that I would honestly rather turn into 165,000 pts. Been told by both US and UK lines that their system doesn't even give a cancellation option for the new partial certs. Has anyone accomplished this recently?

airsniper Dec 18, 2018 2:51 pm

I have a naive question, which I couldn't find answer after searching this thread: Can I leave one day early? i.e., stay 6 nights instead of 7.

coljung Dec 18, 2018 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by airsniper (Post 30550399)
I have a naive question, which I couldn't find answer after searching this thread: Can I leave one day early? i.e., stay 6 nights instead of 7.

Nope, hotel police will detain you and force you to stay the 7 days.

On a non sarcastic tone, YES, for all they care you could leave on day 1.

carlitos Dec 18, 2018 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 30549370)
I have a NC6 that I would honestly rather turn into 165,000 pts. Been told by both US and UK lines that their system doesn't even give a cancellation option for the new partial certs. Has anyone accomplished this recently?

They warned me that if I switch my New TP, I would not be able to convert it to points in the future. That was when I call the US Line and they did not give me the option to upgrade it, just to exchange it for the new ones. I told that agent that I would never win, only Marriott, as if I convert it to the NC5 and I didn t find a hotel I want on that category, I would be stuck with it, so I told her not to touch. Of course HUCA.
Later they attached it to my reservation while exchanging it. I guess they saw me wanting it to be used and not just extended, LOL. I ended up not being charged the extra 30,000 I was supposed to add for a OC8 -- NC6.

Happy Dec 18, 2018 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by airsniper (Post 30550399)
I have a naive question, which I couldn't find answer after searching this thread: Can I leave one day early? i.e., stay 6 nights instead of 7.


Originally Posted by coljung (Post 30550512)
Nope, hotel police will detain you and force you to stay the 7 days.

On a non sarcastic tone, YES, for all they care you could leave on day 1.

Why be so snarky to others? The poster obviously is thinking would he be charged for early departure fee as in many multiple days bookings, there often are clauses on early departure fee applied.
Personally I have seen many such a clauses in virtually every program, whether on revenue bookings or reward bookings.
You can just tell the OP that it is fine to leave early without a sarcastic comment first.

sbellotti84 Dec 18, 2018 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by airsniper (Post 30550399)
I have a naive question, which I couldn't find answer after searching this thread: Can I leave one day early? i.e., stay 6 nights instead of 7.

Absolutely but don’t tell the hotel that. Put up a DND sign and just leave after your last night.

Youll get full credit for the 7 night stay compared to if you told them you were leaving on day 6. They’d check you out and you wouldn’t get 7 night credit towards elite status.

If you don’t care about the night credits or you feel bad they won’t be able to sell the room, then just tell them your ditching the last night.

craigthemif Dec 19, 2018 2:18 am


Originally Posted by sbellotti84 (Post 30551252)


Absolutely but don’t tell the hotel that. Put up a DND sign and just leave after your last night.

Youll get full credit for the 7 night stay compared to if you told them you were leaving on day 6. They’d check you out and you wouldn’t get 7 night credit towards elite status.

If you don’t care about the night credits or you feel bad they won’t be able to sell the room, then just tell them your ditching the last night.

Just putting out a DND sign is garbage advice. People should stop giving it.

Many hotels / jurisdictions require a periodic check to make sure that nothing illegal is going on in the room or that the guest is alive and well. Finding an empty room can raise alarm bells, or result in an automatic check-out. Best practice is to have a quiet word with management, to say that you want a base for the week, but might be coming and going.

Some other countries have fairly strict controls about the registration of foreign visitors. Just sneaking out of the hotel isn't always feasible or advisable.

Slickw Dec 19, 2018 5:09 am


Originally Posted by sbellotti84 (Post 30551252)
If you don’t care about the night credits or you feel bad they won’t be able to sell the room..."

or you have incidental charges that they might screw up and overcharge you e.g. like not applying an F&B credit it is probably easier to fix it at the hotel than later.

Smiley90 Dec 19, 2018 6:12 am

Not sure where to ask but you guys might know - for current cat7's, future cat8's: if I make an award reservation with points advance now, will I be able to attach a cat7 certificate in January since I booked before they go up in cost or should I attach everything now since they'll be unavailable even for already-booked stays?

Counsellor Dec 19, 2018 11:04 am


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 30549370)
I have a NC6 that I would honestly rather turn into 165,000 pts. Been told by both US and UK lines that their system doesn't even give a cancellation option for the new partial certs. Has anyone accomplished this recently?

The Terms and Conditions for the new certificates specifically provide that you get nothing back on cancellations or failure to use them.

If this is an NC that you got in exchange for an OC, you might be able to call and ask if you can essentially change your conversion choice from an NC to the refund. I've not heard of anyone succeeding, but you might be persuasive enough.

Soccerjoshj07 Dec 19, 2018 11:48 am


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 30552385)
Not sure where to ask but you guys might know - for current cat7's, future cat8's: if I make an award reservation with points advance now, will I be able to attach a cat7 certificate in January since I booked before they go up in cost or should I attach everything now since they'll be unavailable even for already-booked stays?

I would try to attach before this happens

margarita girl Dec 19, 2018 12:37 pm

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nexusCFX Dec 19, 2018 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by Counsellor (Post 30553392)
The Terms and Conditions for the new certificates specifically provide that you get nothing back on cancellations or failure to use them.

If this is an NC that you got in exchange for an OC, you might be able to call and ask if you can essentially change your conversion choice from an NC to the refund. I've not heard of anyone succeeding, but you might be persuasive enough.

Just as an update, I did manage to convince a UK rep to turn it back into 165k because it was converted from an old cert. It feels somewhat wasteful, but right now it's nearly enough points for 3 nights at soon-to-be Cat8 properties which would cost me more in cash than just paying for the Cat6 redemption I had planned out.

RedSun Dec 19, 2018 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 30553826)
Just as an update, I did manage to convince a UK rep to turn it back into 165k because it was converted from an old cert. It feels somewhat wasteful, but right now it's nearly enough points for 3 nights at soon-to-be Cat8 properties which would cost me more in cash than just paying for the Cat6 redemption I had planned out.

It is awful to turn OC9 (NC6) into 165k points. It is worth 300,000 points. If it were (illegal of course) possible to trade, I'd be happy to give you 200,000 points for the NC6 TP.

There are plenty nice NC6 properties.


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