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Old Aug 20, 2018, 5:10 pm
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If you want to keep your SPG number, start here: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/mer...mi?program=spg

If you want to keep your Rewards number, start here: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/mer...ogram=marriott

New spg.com accepts a max password of 20 characters while legacy website accepted 24 characters.
If your legacy SPG password exceeds 20 characters, you will not be able to login as the 21st character and beyond is truncated. Reset password functionality may also fail. If you see following after attempting to reset password, call SPG to obtain your new SPG# and then return to spg.com to perform a password reset.

Please correct the following and try again.
The Account has been transfered to another Account
* Hot info /Jan. 03, 2019 *
Log into here with your logon credentials of your combined account to see from the top right corner slider if or if not your account already shows that you have been successfully grandfathered into LTPPE status!

Warning: It seems this only works for those that a able to make a choice, as it doesn't work for me.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 1:22 pm
  #841  
 
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
I don't think they are coming back. This appears to have been done to correct an error in the data transfer process.

Of course, if you have factual proof that your lifetime nights are not correct, feel free to send it to us at the email address below and we will certainly pass it along for review.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]
Thanks for feedback.
Great to know after the merge that we have to bring a proof for that! When I merged the accounts, I checked and it was correct (total 211 lifetime nights, whih was aligned with my activity so far), so I didn't take any screenshot of totals from Marriott and SPG... Difficult now to bring a proof, and strange that I don't get any feedback (at least, the generic message).
The good thing is that I found back a lot of my SPG yearly summary, and doing the total, I am above the 179 lifetime night after the deduction (and this total of 179 lifetime night is incorrect).... so the deduction was a mistake for my case!).
But, I have nothing regarding my activity on Marriot, as it was no automatic summary of yearly activity from the program.
I will send a message to the address e-mail you mentioned tomorrow morning (CET time) with partial proof, but honestly, this is clearly a nightmare!
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Research does missing stays and currently they are being hammered, so please don't send it there. We would be glad to look into this if you send us the details. While we would not be able to fix the issue, we can at least get it headed in the right direction.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

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Hi William,

I submitted a missing stay request on Marriott webform 7 days ago, and still no response.
Should I wait further before resubmit?

The stay is at legacy SPG (its Al Maha Resort to be exact)

Thanks !
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by kaizen7
Hi William,

I submitted a missing stay request on Marriott webform 7 days ago, and still no response.
Should I wait further before resubmit?

The stay is at legacy SPG (its Al Maha Resort to be exact)

Thanks !
I would. Any team handling missing stays is running behind at the moment. Every time an additional email is sent about the same issue, it just delays them getting to others.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 4:23 pm
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Hi William,

Could you ask around how the lifetime years will/ahould be counted for 2018 if one crossed platinum on SPG before the merger but crosses it with MR afterwards? Or to rephrase the question: do we get 2 years towards lifetime status if we combine now, or it’s a better idea to ignore the cahnce for PP/PP+A and combine in January when both accounts got the lifetime year for 2018?
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Kaloz
Hi William,

Could you ask around how the lifetime years will/ahould be counted for 2018 if one crossed platinum on SPG before the merger but crosses it with MR afterwards? Or to rephrase the question: do we get 2 years towards lifetime status if we combine now, or it’s a better idea to ignore the cahnce for PP/PP+A and combine in January when both accounts got the lifetime year for 2018?
This is what they are telling us:

"As a reminder, members who achieve Lifetime status through either the legacy Marriott Rewards, Ritz-Carlton Rewards, or SPG as well as the one-time offering of Platinum Premier Elite Lifetime status (750 nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite Status) will be reflected in the members account in January 2019, as we will perform a year-end true-up for this subset of members."

But, I am not giving anyone any advice on when to merge their accounts. That is a decision that you as an individual will have to make.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

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Old Oct 3, 2018, 6:49 pm
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Any word on when booking spg properties will be available online? I tried over the phone but the CSR couldn't speak english.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by maniac78
Any word on when booking spg properties will be available online?
Eh?

Are you going to www.marriott.com ?
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 7:03 pm
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Yes you can't book spg properties using points on the marriott.com website or in the app.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by maniac78
Yes you can't book spg properties using points on the marriott.com website or in the app.
i have made a number of points bookings over the last few weeks on both the website & app....
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 5:38 am
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Apparently if the leading digit of your userid is a zero there are problems booking online.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by Kaloz
Hi William,

Could you ask around how the lifetime years will/ahould be counted for 2018 if one crossed platinum on SPG before the merger but crosses it with MR afterwards? Or to rephrase the question: do we get 2 years towards lifetime status if we combine now, or it’s a better idea to ignore the cahnce for PP/PP+A and combine in January when both accounts got the lifetime year for 2018?
Not quite sure what you are asking here, but if you earn status in legacy MR properties AND also in legacy SPG properties then you should get credited for two years of status. If you only earn status by combining accounts would only earn you one year. Combining should not make a difference but I do suggest holding off for now to let things settle out more.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by ckendall
Apparently if the leading digit of your userid is a zero there are problems booking online.
My account number doesn't start with a zero, and I cannot book award stays at SPG properties online (nor can I apply certificates).
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Not quite sure what you are asking here, but if you earn status in legacy MR properties AND also in legacy SPG properties then you should get credited for two years of status. If you only earn status by combining accounts would only earn you one year. Combining should not make a difference but I do suggest holding off for now to let things settle out more.
What I was pointing out that once you’ve combined, you have a single account. Eg. let’s say you have 50 night on SPG reached before the merger and 49 with legacy MR. If you combine now, you become PP and if you’ve spent enough, PP+A after the next stay. So far ao good. The question was if you’ll get two plat years towards lifetime status after the next stay or not.

I know everyone speaks about lifetime PP and the end of years sweep - my question is about the rest of us.

1. If the promised end of year sweep is all about lifetime PP check, we won’t get the “extra credit” for 2018.
2. The lifetime counter didn’t increase in the new program after reaching 50 nights, so propably will only show that end of year, which means if you combine now, you might as well end up with a single year credit for this year.

Which means there are three options with no clear end results:

a) Combine now, have a single PP account with 99 nights, reach PP+A and hope that qualifies for 2 years for 2018.
b) Wait until the 50th night with MR, combine then, reach PP+A and hope that you get 2 years (better chances to argue with Marriott about it)
c) Wait until January, loose out on PP+A but get 2 lifetime years for sure.
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by Kaloz

c) Wait until January, loose out on PP+A but get 2 lifetime years for sure.
"For sure"??? If only that were true... Essentially there is no real way of guaranteeing yourself 2 Platinum years for 2018 if Marriott decides to renege on what had been indiciated previously.


As far as I am concerned, there is no excuse for a legacy, uncombined MR account with 50+ nights to not receive a Platinum year relatively automatically. So somebody has clearly gone in and set it up so that anybody with Marriott status due to SPG status cannot possibly earn an elite year via MR nights. I don't have too much confidence that a "year end sweep" will fix this.
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by Kaloz


What I was pointing out that once you’ve combined, you have a single account. Eg. let’s say you have 50 night on SPG reached before the merger and 49 with legacy MR. If you combine now, you become PP and if you’ve spent enough, PP+A after the next stay. So far ao good. The question was if you’ll get two plat years towards lifetime status after the next stay or not.

I know everyone speaks about lifetime PP and the end of years sweep - my question is about the rest of us.

1. If the promised end of year sweep is all about lifetime PP check, we won’t get the “extra credit” for 2018.
2. The lifetime counter didn’t increase in the new program after reaching 50 nights, so propably will only show that end of year, which means if you combine now, you might as well end up with a single year credit for this year.

Which means there are three options with no clear end results:

a) Combine now, have a single PP account with 99 nights, reach PP+A and hope that qualifies for 2 years for 2018.
b) Wait until the 50th night with MR, combine then, reach PP+A and hope that you get 2 years (better chances to argue with Marriott about it)
c) Wait until January, loose out on PP+A but get 2 lifetime years for sure.
From what I've read, anything that involves legacy rules will only show after the January sweep, so the second year of status will not show until then. It's a tough call if you need that second night for a legacy LT status as those go away at the end of this year, but if it just delays getting the status you are aiming for by a year, I'd go for the PP+A now since the LT status will have no tangible benefit until your stays drop.
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