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Old Aug 20, 2018, 5:10 pm
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If you want to keep your SPG number, start here: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/mer...mi?program=spg

If you want to keep your Rewards number, start here: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/mer...ogram=marriott

New spg.com accepts a max password of 20 characters while legacy website accepted 24 characters.
If your legacy SPG password exceeds 20 characters, you will not be able to login as the 21st character and beyond is truncated. Reset password functionality may also fail. If you see following after attempting to reset password, call SPG to obtain your new SPG# and then return to spg.com to perform a password reset.

Please correct the following and try again.
The Account has been transfered to another Account
* Hot info /Jan. 03, 2019 *
Log into here with your logon credentials of your combined account to see from the top right corner slider if or if not your account already shows that you have been successfully grandfathered into LTPPE status!

Warning: It seems this only works for those that a able to make a choice, as it doesn't work for me.
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl



I don’t know when your status will be updated, but it will be valid until Feb 2020.
Typo on my part. Yes 2020, thanks
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by xzh445
Crossed 25 SPG Stays on 8/19. 2 more Stays since then (8/27). 27 total Stays (25 BIB) Stays+2 Amex card) “New” SPG/Marriott account never reflected Platinum. (But shows 17 Nights to reach 50 Plat). Combined accounts one week ago, kept “New” number. Still shows Gold and 17 Nights to reach Plat.
Have qualified under the 2018 only rules for Plat by 25 SPG Stays. Cannot find anywhere on the website WHEN status should be granted. Should it be now, after qualifying threshold is crossed, or Jan 1st?
SPG would recognize status during year once threshold was crossed. Combined program provide no guidance on the website (that I can find)
Either way this should be good until Feb 28, 2020?
Would [email protected] be the best place to contact? Don’t wish to bother the Lurkers unless they want to answer here.
My bet is on Jan 2019. Since you crossed the line under legacy rules they will do a sweep in January to determine what changes need to happen. I can understand this for LT status, but I think annual status changes should be as close to real time as possible. Marriott's infinite wisdom at play yet again.
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by xzh445
Crossed 25 SPG Stays on 8/19. 2 more Stays since then (8/27). 27 total Stays (25 BIB) Stays+2 Amex card) “New” SPG/Marriott account never reflected Platinum. (But shows 17 Nights to reach 50 Plat). Combined accounts one week ago, kept “New” number. Still shows Gold and 17 Nights to reach Plat.
Have qualified under the 2018 only rules for Plat by 25 SPG Stays. Cannot find anywhere on the website WHEN status should be granted. Should it be now, after qualifying threshold is crossed, or Jan 1st?
SPG would recognize status during year once threshold was crossed. Combined program provide no guidance on the website (that I can find)
Either way this should be good until Feb 28, 2020?
Would [email protected] be the best place to contact? Don’t wish to bother the Lurkers unless they want to answer here.
You will have to push to have your status updated manually. If nobody at Marriott is willing or able to do so, then you will have to wait until Marriott do a sweep in early 2019.

It sounds like you came really close to 25 stays pre-merger, and you would have done better to squeeze in another stay or two before 18 August. But presumably you relied on Marriott's promises - those of us who didn't trust Marriott seem to have done a bit better...
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Forced combination is not as straightforward as many may assume. Short of matching names, addresses, and telephone numbers, there's no direct tie between accounts.
I would have thought that Marriott would have some visibility into this, at least for those that linked their accounts pre-8/18. But I suppose this would be too much to ask for Marriott IT systems.
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Old Sep 29, 2018, 6:29 pm
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It should have triggered as soon as that stay was posted under the old terms. I would lodge a formal complaint.
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Old Oct 1, 2018, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by xzh445
...Would [email protected] be the best place to contact? Don’t wish to bother the Lurkers unless they want to answer here.
Research does missing stays and currently they are being hammered, so please don't send it there. We would be glad to look into this if you send us the details. While we would not be able to fix the issue, we can at least get it headed in the right direction.

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Old Oct 1, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Research does missing stays and currently they are being hammered, so please don't send it there. We would be glad to look into this if you send us the details. While we would not be able to fix the issue, we can at least get it headed in the right direction.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
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OK then, thank you William. I was wondering if there was a more appropriate link, as I know YOU are being hammered/inundated/swamped as well. Will send you an email w/ detail and appreciate it being forwarded to the right place.

The underlying question is... Is status to be recognized once the threshold is crossed, or does it wait until the following year. My understanding, at least in the SPG world, was - once you cross the threshold. Thank you again for the offer to to help route it to the correct place. Was trying not to burden you.
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Old Oct 1, 2018, 3:31 pm
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Is there any deadline to reporting those missing stays?
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Old Oct 2, 2018, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by xzh445
OK then, thank you William. I was wondering if there was a more appropriate link, as I know YOU are being hammered/inundated/swamped as well. Will send you an email w/ detail and appreciate it being forwarded to the right place.

The underlying question is... Is status to be recognized once the threshold is crossed, or does it wait until the following year. My understanding, at least in the SPG world, was - once you cross the threshold. Thank you again for the offer to to help route it to the correct place. Was trying not to burden you.
Remember there are two issues in play here. One is the new program rules, there you should expect your new status to be honored within days of crossing the threshold. Of course the stay needs to post, but then there are frequent sweeps that update all the outlying systems including the web database that we see that is different than their back office system that the CSRs see. Second is the legacy rules, these are not being followed by the current system and they have planned a one-time sweep in January to bring everything into play. Yes, it would be nice to have everything right now, but that's not going to happen so patience will be the survival rule dealing with MPG.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Research does missing stays and currently they are being hammered, so please don't send it there. We would be glad to look into this if you send us the details. While we would not be able to fix the issue, we can at least get it headed in the right direction.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
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Marriott International

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Hi William,
What about lifetime nights that are missing (disapearing several weeks after the merge, week of the 3rd of Sept.)?
I report this through e-mail to the contact available under the website, but don't have any feedback since then (just a message saying that they transfert to the Marriott Reward team. Who should we contact to get those nights back (I lost 32 lifetime nights that week)?
Thanks for help
Regards
Nicolas
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by play3000
Hi William,
What about lifetime nights that are missing (disapearing several weeks after the merge, week of the 3rd of Sept.)?
I report this through e-mail to the contact available under the website, but don't have any feedback since then (just a message saying that they transfert to the Marriott Reward team. Who should we contact to get those nights back (I lost 32 lifetime nights that week)?
Thanks for help
Regards
Nicolas
I don't think they are coming back. This appears to have been done to correct an error in the data transfer process. The message we were given to pass along was this:

"Thank you for your question related to Lifetime nights and Lifetime status. On August 18 we started unifying our loyalty programs by migrating member information to our new system. During that process, a code error accidentally double counted 2018 Elite Night Credits in the members Current Night counter and Lifetime Night counter. In order to correct the code error, it was necessary to deduct the duplicate nights from the Member’s Lifetime Night counter. The Member’s Current Night counter and Lifetime Night counter will continue to increment as new stays post to the account.

As a reminder, members who achieve Lifetime status through either the legacy Marriott Rewards, Ritz-Carlton Rewards, or SPG as well as the one-time offering of Platinum Premier Elite Lifetime status (750 nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite Status) will be reflected in the members account in January 2019, as we will perform a year-end true-up for this subset of members. We believe that all night totals are now accurate. For information on our new Elite Status tiers and criteria for eligibility please visit: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/member-benefits.mi"

Of course, if you have factual proof that your lifetime nights are not correct, feel free to send it to us at the email address below and we will certainly pass it along for review.

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William R. Sanders
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
I don't think they are coming back. This appears to have been done to correct an error in the data transfer process. The message we were given to pass along was this:

"Thank you for your question related to Lifetime nights and Lifetime status. On August 18 we started unifying our loyalty programs by migrating member information to our new system. During that process, a code error accidentally double counted 2018 Elite Night Credits in the members Current Night counter and Lifetime Night counter. In order to correct the code error, it was necessary to deduct the duplicate nights from the Member’s Lifetime Night counter. The Member’s Current Night counter and Lifetime Night counter will continue to increment as new stays post to the account.

As a reminder, members who achieve Lifetime status through either the legacy Marriott Rewards, Ritz-Carlton Rewards, or SPG as well as the one-time offering of Platinum Premier Elite Lifetime status (750 nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite Status) will be reflected in the members account in January 2019, as we will perform a year-end true-up for this subset of members. We believe that all night totals are now accurate. For information on our new Elite Status tiers and criteria for eligibility please visit: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/member-benefits.mi"

Of course, if you have factual proof that your lifetime nights are not correct, feel free to send it to us at the email address below and we will certainly pass it along for review.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]
This is not a correct statement of the actual circumstances. Not all accounts was exposed to this code error, mine was not, however my account was exposed to the correction. Meaning that the nights YTD (18 AUG) was removed from my account even though there was no double counting to start with.
So those nights are gone from the LT nights balance? Truly a testament of the unprofessional execution of the IT aspect of this merger. ... then this clown Arne Sorenson can claim that things are stable until his face goes blue ... A car without wheels is stable as well ... it don't move ...

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Old Oct 3, 2018, 11:14 am
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I had 947 nights/12 years plat after the Aug 18 merge. After this recent clean up, I was deducted 20 nights that were apparently counted as dupes and my LT plat years still remained 12. I'm not sure where they came up with the number but it really doesn't matter in my case. I'm still weary that the lifetime nights counter is accurate, but also close enough.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by PHL
I had 947 nights/12 years plat after the Aug 18 merge. After this recent clean up, I was deducted 20 nights that were apparently counted as dupes and my LT plat years still remained 12. I'm not sure where they came up with the number but it really doesn't matter in my case. I'm still weary that the lifetime nights counter is accurate, but also close enough.
Dollars to donuts you had 20 SPG nights in 2018 prior to 8/18
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
This is not a correct statement of the actual circumstances. Not all accounts was exposed to this code error, mine was not, however my account was exposed to the correction. Meaning that the nights YTD (18 AUG) was removed from my account even though there was no double counting to start with...
Like I said, " ...if you have factual proof that your lifetime nights are not correct, feel free to send it to us at the email address below and we will certainly pass it along for review."

Feel free to send anything to support your position to the email address below.

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