Mar 17, 2014, 3:08 pm
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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Apr 28, 2014, 3:17 pm
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The Bay of Bengal is one of the most polluted areas of ocean[ (wikipedia) in the world. It is where they scrap ships by breaking them up (wikipedia) on beaches. Here's an article with a lot of pictures: Graveyard shift - Dismantling toxic ships in Bangladesh (The Independent - Friday 26 July 2013)
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
Apr 29, 2014, 10:24 pm
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The Bay of Bengal is one of the most polluted areas of ocean[ (wikipedia) in the world. It is where they scrap ships by breaking them up (wikipedia) on beaches. Here's an article with a lot of pictures: Graveyard shift - Dismantling toxic ships in Bangladesh (The Independent - Friday 26 July 2013)
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
May 1, 2014, 7:39 am
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Was listening to CNN on the way to work (XM Radio) and they said that this plane had 5,000 pounds (I think thats right) of lithium batteries in the cargo hold, that seems like a lot- evidently full cargo manifest was released today
May 1, 2014, 8:53 am
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From: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nto-MH370.html
14.08 A full list of the cargo has been released, which includes the four tonnes of mangosteens that had previously sparked an investigation. Also featured is lithium batteries, which Malaysia Airlines only admitted to carrying two weeks after the plane disappeared and after having denied it.
Lithium-ion batteries - which are used in mobile phones and laptops - have been responsible for a number of fires on planes and have even brought aircraft down in recent years.
14.08 A full list of the cargo has been released, which includes the four tonnes of mangosteens that had previously sparked an investigation. Also featured is lithium batteries, which Malaysia Airlines only admitted to carrying two weeks after the plane disappeared and after having denied it.
Lithium-ion batteries - which are used in mobile phones and laptops - have been responsible for a number of fires on planes and have even brought aircraft down in recent years.
May 1, 2014, 9:14 am
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If the Lithium batteries started a fire, I doubt there would be no communication from the Pilot, and 6 hours more of flying before the plane went down. Also, swerving around countries as well doesn't seem like something a fire would cause.
May 1, 2014, 10:00 am
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True you have a point just find it unusual they did not release this earlier
May 1, 2014, 5:04 pm
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...experts-n94941
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Here is the recordings that were released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEbGKiwDn0
"
Missing Jet Recordings May Have Been 'Edited': Experts
By Elizabeth Chuck
Audio recordings of the final conversations between pilots of the missing Malaysian jet and teams of air traffic controllers on the ground were "edited" before they were made public, voice experts say.
The tapes also appear to be recorded by at least two different audio sources, one of which may have been a digital recorder held up to a speaker, they said."
By Elizabeth Chuck
Audio recordings of the final conversations between pilots of the missing Malaysian jet and teams of air traffic controllers on the ground were "edited" before they were made public, voice experts say.
The tapes also appear to be recorded by at least two different audio sources, one of which may have been a digital recorder held up to a speaker, they said."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEbGKiwDn0
May 2, 2014, 3:59 pm
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It wasn't 5000 pounds of batteries - it was 5000 pounds of electronics (walkie-talkies I believe) that contained lithium batteries. Because of the batteries the shipment had to be specially listed.
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May 3, 2014, 7:41 pm
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"Eleven terrorists with links to Al Qaeda have been arrested on suspicion of being involved in the disappearance of MH370
A group of 11 terrorists with links to Al Qaeda were yesterday being interrogated on whether they are behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
The suspects were arrested in the capital Kuala Lumpur and in the state of Kedah last week and are members of a violent new terror group said to be planning bomb attacks in Muslim countries.
The interrogations come after international investigators, including the FBI and MI6, asked for the militants, whose ages range from 22 to 55 and include students, odd-job workers, a young widow and business professionals, to be questioned intensively about Flight MH370. "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-manifest.html
A group of 11 terrorists with links to Al Qaeda were yesterday being interrogated on whether they are behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
The suspects were arrested in the capital Kuala Lumpur and in the state of Kedah last week and are members of a violent new terror group said to be planning bomb attacks in Muslim countries.
The interrogations come after international investigators, including the FBI and MI6, asked for the militants, whose ages range from 22 to 55 and include students, odd-job workers, a young widow and business professionals, to be questioned intensively about Flight MH370. "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-manifest.html
May 3, 2014, 9:37 pm
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The Bay of Bengal is one of the most polluted areas of ocean[ (wikipedia) in the world. It is where they scrap ships by breaking them up (wikipedia) on beaches. Here's an article with a lot of pictures: Graveyard shift - Dismantling toxic ships in Bangladesh (The Independent - Friday 26 July 2013)
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
Those same materials are what you end up with when you scrap ships... so, IMHO, it is not a credible lead.
http://indianexpress.com/article/ind...-successfully/
May 4, 2014, 10:14 pm
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More "aviation experts" weigh into the debate:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/la...rence/?cmp=ydn
What....no names of these so called "experts"??
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/la...rence/?cmp=ydn
A senior Boeing 777 captain and a former crash investigator agreed that given the information outlined in the preliminary report issued late last week, "human input was essential" for the MH370 to end its flight in the Indian Ocean.
Last edited by QF WP; May 4, 2014 at 10:19 pm
May 5, 2014, 12:49 am
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Early on we were all led to believe there was no distress call from MH370 however a Chinese news agency China Times refers to a distress call being picked up by VTBU Rayong in Thailand. This is the text translated with Google Translate:
http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimene...8003502-260401
It is hard to grasp why this was not mentioned in the report of 1st May?
How can anyone solve a jig saw puzzle when half the pieces are hidden?
....In addition, the U.S. Embassy said the 2:43 U.S. military bases stationed in Thailand U-Tapao SOS signal was listening to some of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 emergency call, said the aircraft cabin facing disintegration driver call, they want a forced landing . U.S. troops are currently stationed in Thailand, Malaysia has been providing this signal.
It is hard to grasp why this was not mentioned in the report of 1st May?
How can anyone solve a jig saw puzzle when half the pieces are hidden?
May 5, 2014, 9:35 am
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May 7, 2014, 10:32 am
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I'm sorry if this has already been covered on this forum. I am rather confused by the fact that a couple of weeks ago it was thought that the signals from the black box were being picked up and it was stated that theses signals could not have been from anything else. I also understand that the signal from the BB could only travel about 3km. Now we are told that "it is back to square one". If the signals were being picked up surely the plane is within 3km of where the ship was that picked up the signal and it should be "nearby". Have I missed the news item saying these were not the signals from the BB?