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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Apr 5, 2014, 6:07 am
#1546
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Apr 5, 2014, 6:11 am
#1547
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Sound travels quite well in water. 10,000ft = ~2 miles. I thought the detection range was 'upto' 4-5 miles, so while I see a distance challenge hopefully they can cover a wider area by towing at lower depth?
Apr 5, 2014, 6:19 am
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It must be unmistakable as to what it represents, otherwise there is no point.
It might be well to point out that the Chinese have published false alarms before.....
Last edited by cblaisd; Apr 5, 2014 at 7:01 am Reason: Removed reference to a news story where no link is cited
Apr 5, 2014, 7:12 am
#1549
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Apr 5, 2014, 7:40 am
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The location sure looks about right:
Let us all just hope and pray it is shall we?
Apr 5, 2014, 9:53 am
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The co-pilot of the Ethipioan Airlines plane managed to hijack the plane and to keep the other pilot out of the cockpit. Because it is a secure lock.
Occam's razor. One pilot took control of mh370 once the other used the lav.
Apr 5, 2014, 10:34 am
#1553
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The Chinese stated (as reported via CNN) that the signal lasted for 90 seconds.
Note to Mod. - not sure how to provide a link for that
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/05/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Apr 5, 2014, 11:35 am
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Here is a link to a recording of CCTV's China 24 News in English:
Apr 5, 2014, 12:10 pm
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The state-run Xinhua news agency which reported that a Chinese ship picked up a pulse signal has not mentioned the length of time that the signal lasted.
Here is a link to a recording of CCTV's China 24 News in English:
Here is a link to a recording of CCTV's China 24 News in English:
If they really did hear 37.5kHz bursts at one-second intervals on two separate occasions (one lasting 90 sec, the other 15 mins) there is no doubt that this is the black box(es) from MH370 since there is no other possible source. But the uncertainty lies in the question as to whether they really did detect those 37.5kHz bursts at one-second intervals. It needs corroboration.
Last edited by polarbreeze; Apr 5, 2014 at 12:20 pm
Apr 5, 2014, 12:19 pm
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Strange that they previously detected this signal on Friday yet apparently had not informed JACC in Australia, or we might have heard it mentioned in the latest news briefing Saturday morning (local time).
Apr 5, 2014, 12:45 pm
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If they really did hear 37.5kHz bursts at one-second intervals on two separate occasions (one lasting 90 sec, the other 15 mins) there is no doubt that this is the black box(es) from MH370 since there is no other possible source. But the uncertainty lies in the question as to whether they really did detect those 37.5kHz bursts at one-second intervals. It needs corroboration.
Apr 5, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Why did the Chinese not announce yesterday they heard a beacon for 5 minutes?
Why is it being reported today's new 90 seconds wasn't recorded when they said the next step is sending it to Boeing for verification of a match?
Why is it being reported today's new 90 seconds wasn't recorded when they said the next step is sending it to Boeing for verification of a match?
Last edited by indiekiduk; Apr 5, 2014 at 1:19 pm
Apr 5, 2014, 1:43 pm
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Although China reported that they will join in the search, I am not aware that they signed up for mutual cooperation with anyone.
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