MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
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Originally Posted by Fly-Swiss
(Post 22509756)
How about this, posted 2-3 pages before:
According to this, an oil rig worker, Mike McKay, saw a plane in flames off Vietnamese coast and reported it to authorities. http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2014/...rted-seen.html I could imagine a scenario like: flash fire in cockpit due to oxygen system, disables comms, plane begins a long descent (off course) to that general area, before fire finally reaches fuel tank, plane explodes. It's not very likely, but perhaps more likely than any other scenario people have thought up. |
Originally Posted by andrewwm
(Post 22509769)
I could imagine a scenario like: flash fire in cockpit due to oxygen system, disables comms, plane begins a long descent (off course) to that general area, before fire finally reaches fuel tank, plane explodes. It's not very likely, but perhaps more likely than any other scenario people have thought up. Interesting debating style! |
Originally Posted by ozstamps
(Post 22509789)
So you theories backed with zero evidence of ANY kind, outrank the theories of those with at least something to back them up?
Interesting debating style! Compare that to ghost radar signals way off course of the original flight track that would be inconsistent with any known failure scenario, yes I think it's more likely. Am I 100% certain? No, of course not. We are already in the realm of highly implausible scenarios. But some conspiracy nonsense about being shot down by the Indo air force is much less likely than one of the biggest dangers of planes in cruise: fire. |
Originally Posted by andrewwm
(Post 22509798)
Except the observation of the oil platform worker of a mid-air plane on fire along the general flight track of the flight, which is consistent with a plane failure scenario that would explain the total loss of comms.
Compare that to ghost radar signals way off course of the original flight track that would be inconsistent with any known failure scenario, yes I think it's more likely. Am I 100% certain? No, of course not. We are already in the realm of highly implausible scenarios. But some conspiracy nonsense about being shot down by the Indo air force is much less likely than one of the biggest dangers of planes in cruise: fire. |
Originally Posted by andrewwm
(Post 22509769)
I could imagine a scenario like: flash fire in cockpit due to oxygen system, disables comms, plane begins a long descent (off course) to that general area, before fire finally reaches fuel tank, plane explodes.
Edit: and of course there should be quite a lot of debris in that area. |
Originally Posted by beowl
(Post 22509912)
I think it would require some unprecedented incineration to disable communications in a way that the crew cannot even send Pan Pan Pan or another distress signal. Not very likely. And the fact the communication was lost in the takeover period between two ATCs increases the chance the crew caused it (willingly or under pressure) rather than any kind of fire or catastrophic event.
Edit: and of course there should be quite a lot of debris in that area. |
How do you transit from an area in N. Thailand/Myanmar to Kazakhstan without going over China? I would think the Chinese have reasonably good radar coverage, especially anywhere near it's border with India.
EDIT: Perhaps the two very distant corridors are the result of two radar systems (Chinese and Australian, for example) picking up unidentified blips that might have been MH370. |
Originally Posted by uszkanni
(Post 22527382)
How do you transit from an area in N. Thailand/Myanmar to Kazakhstan without going over China? I would think the Chinese have reasonably good radar coverage, especially anywhere near it's border with India.
EDIT: Perhaps the two very distant corridors are the result of two radar systems (Chinese and Australian, for example) picking up unidentified blips that might have been MH370. |
Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
(Post 22527426)
What are the chances of him shadowing SQ 68 which was on the same path at about the same time, going from SIN to BCN? We had RMAF not picking up MH370 while it crossed the Malaysian peninsula from east to west, could the Indian AF also be duped?
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
(Post 22527426)
The northwestern corridor he mentioned up-to Kazakhstan/Turkmenistan goes over India /Pakistan as well. Looks like a sophisticated operator was commanding the flight by then. What are the chances of him shadowing SQ 68 which was on the same path at about the same time, going from SIN to BCN? We had RMAF not picking up MH370 while it crossed the Malaysian peninsula from east to west, could the Indians also be duped?
Patni also said there are gaps in the coverage areas, including within the area being searched for the missing plane. He couldn't give an exact location for specific gaps, but said pilots are well aware of them. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...w/32015806.cms From the same interview In Thailand, secondary surveillance radar, which requires a signal from aircraft, runs 24 hours a day, but primary surveillance radar, which requires no signal at all, ordinarily shuts down at night, said a Royal Thai Air Force officer who asked not to be named because he is not authorized to talk to the media on the issue. |
At todays Press conference Malaysia Airlines CEO said the cargo on the Boeing 777-200 ER plane was checked and scanned according to standard procedures. “We examined the cargo manifest, it contains no hazardous goods,”
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/mala....WvP8oMM7.dpuf This is an interesting non-answer because the idea of explosion or fire - which could have been caused by hazardous cargo - has been already discounted. The question still remains: was there anything in the cargo that might have caused someone to want to steal it or destroy it? |
Originally Posted by MANman
(Post 22532658)
At todays Press conference Malaysia Airlines CEO said the cargo on the Boeing 777-200 ER plane was checked and scanned according to standard procedures. “We examined the cargo manifest, it contains no hazardous goods,”
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/mala....WvP8oMM7.dpuf This is an interesting non-answer because the idea of explosion or fire - which could have been caused by hazardous cargo - has been already discounted. The question still remains: was there anything in the cargo that might have caused someone to want to steal it or destroy it? |
Originally Posted by DeanB
(Post 22532792)
How far in advance are cargos typically booked onto flights? Would be difficult to plan something meticulously like this at the last minute, or if booked far ahead, could you be certain that the "right" pilot was rostered for it?
The only remote possibility is it is something that is shipped regularly. |
Originally Posted by MANman
(Post 22532658)
At todays Press conference Malaysia Airlines CEO said the cargo on the Boeing 777-200 ER plane was checked and scanned according to standard procedures. “We examined the cargo manifest, it contains no hazardous goods,”
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/mala....WvP8oMM7.dpuf |
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