New FS hotel plans (up to 2012)
Mar 7, 2012, 4:05 am
#497
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Mar 7, 2012, 5:11 am
#498
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http://twitter.com/#!/Gallivanters/s...53065361932289
78 room http://www.bililalodgeserengeti.com/
im assuming owner and FS are still in pre-signing negotiations...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...3&postcount=11
http://africansafaris.com/blogdirect...ia-tour-diary/
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserR...ti_Region.html
http://www.albwardy.com/index.html
apparent owner also lists FS seychelles and per aquum desert palm
i thought i remembered different owner for FS seychelles - ong / HPL
http://www.hotelprop.com/
http://www.eturbonews.com/23850/kemp...otels-tanzania
78 room http://www.bililalodgeserengeti.com/
im assuming owner and FS are still in pre-signing negotiations...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...3&postcount=11
http://africansafaris.com/blogdirect...ia-tour-diary/
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserR...ti_Region.html
http://www.albwardy.com/index.html
apparent owner also lists FS seychelles and per aquum desert palm
i thought i remembered different owner for FS seychelles - ong / HPL
http://www.hotelprop.com/
http://www.eturbonews.com/23850/kemp...otels-tanzania
Mar 8, 2012, 5:47 pm
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funny, i guess this post was auto-flagged because it quoted the links in my post.
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Mar 8, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Mar 10, 2012, 11:08 pm
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FS Dubai confirmed
http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/13...n-dubai-hotel/
regarding Tanzania , FS is not just working on Serengeti but is also working on a resort in Zanzibar with Ground kent architects.
regarding Tanzania , FS is not just working on Serengeti but is also working on a resort in Zanzibar with Ground kent architects.
Mar 11, 2012, 5:34 am
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There will be 3 Four Seasons Hotel in China this year, most likely Guangzhou will be open in May, Shanghai Pudong around August and Beijing end of September.
The one of the FS Guangzhou's mock room from Chinese blog http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6791d225010118lt.html.
Sanjiv Hulugalle has been appointed as the pre-opening GM in Beijing, and his last position was GM at FS Maldives Kuda Huraa.
The one of the FS Guangzhou's mock room from Chinese blog http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6791d225010118lt.html.
Sanjiv Hulugalle has been appointed as the pre-opening GM in Beijing, and his last position was GM at FS Maldives Kuda Huraa.
Mar 13, 2012, 11:11 am
#502
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One more in Paris
A Russian Dude plans to build a 300-meter-tower in Paris - with a second Four Seasons in it:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...osti-says.html
Let's see!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...osti-says.html
Let's see!
Mar 13, 2012, 11:15 am
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A Russian Dude plans to build a 300-meter-tower in Paris - with a second Four Seasons in it:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...osti-says.html
Let's see!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...osti-says.html
Let's see!
Mar 13, 2012, 11:23 am
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Jul 17, 09 - psychic or insider? 
Jul 2, 10 >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post14231370
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ons-hotel.html
just says "gained approval in early March"
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17852942-post18.html
if luxor is going to be less than 200 rooms, sounds great
but this could be referring to the original pre-lehman plans...
http://www.businesstraveller.com/mid...les-with-slump
luxor appears to be ongoing, same with this?
TMG is also developing FS madinaty
speaking of orascom, i wonder whats up with their amoun island (aswan) with LVMH/cheval blanc
huh, amoun used to be 50 room club med. owner (not orascom) political scandal >
http://213.158.162.45/~egyptian/inde...=news&id=10069
http://realitycheckegypt.wordpress.c...1577;-آ/
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post14231370
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ons-hotel.html
executive vice president of worldwide development Scott Woroch
200-room Luxor hotel - 2013 - TMG
215-key El Gouna - 2014 - orascom - on hold
“In Luxor, they’ve undertaken a value engineering exercise to reduce the scope and scale of the project to allow it to move forward given the current environment. We had gotten fairly close to the end of the design phase, now they’ve said relook at this - there’s some things we can do that will allow us to save money and reduce the scale and scope of the project to allow it to move forward,”
...we’re focused on controlling expenses..Obviously the biggest expense is labour, so we’re just trying to be careful and responsive to the markets
200-room Luxor hotel - 2013 - TMG
215-key El Gouna - 2014 - orascom - on hold
“In Luxor, they’ve undertaken a value engineering exercise to reduce the scope and scale of the project to allow it to move forward given the current environment. We had gotten fairly close to the end of the design phase, now they’ve said relook at this - there’s some things we can do that will allow us to save money and reduce the scale and scope of the project to allow it to move forward,”
...we’re focused on controlling expenses..Obviously the biggest expense is labour, so we’re just trying to be careful and responsive to the markets
but this could be referring to the original pre-lehman plans...
http://www.businesstraveller.com/mid...les-with-slump
Regional Director Cesare Rouchdy said it hasn't laid off any staff across its four properties
Sharm is reliant on Europe, and that’s holding its own," he said.
"With occupancies and average rates down, we’re having to add a lot more value-added deals."
Sharm is reliant on Europe, and that’s holding its own," he said.
"With occupancies and average rates down, we’re having to add a lot more value-added deals."
TMG has rigorously pursued its visionary plans to construct a luxury hotel and a five-star Nile Cruiser in Luxor; both are to be managed by the four Seasons
TMG is also developing FS madinaty
speaking of orascom, i wonder whats up with their amoun island (aswan) with LVMH/cheval blanc
huh, amoun used to be 50 room club med. owner (not orascom) political scandal >
http://213.158.162.45/~egyptian/inde...=news&id=10069
http://realitycheckegypt.wordpress.c...1577;-آ/
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Mar 14, 2012 at 12:16 am
Mar 14, 2012, 1:58 pm
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I was chatting with the Director of Marketing at Four Seasons Lisbon, who also happens to be overseeing the Marketing for St. Petersburg, last evening and it appears FS St. Petersburg will be ready to open in October or so based upon a hard hat tour he took of the building last month.
He also revealed that there are plans for a Rome hotel which will be a new build. The owner's of FS Florence are behind the Rome project and won't come on-line until 2015.
He also revealed that there are plans for a Rome hotel which will be a new build. The owner's of FS Florence are behind the Rome project and won't come on-line until 2015.
Mar 14, 2012, 2:14 pm
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Rome : the company that owns FS Florence wants to convert this building in Piazzo Verdi to FS Rome. its all in the local papers.
http://www.rdmrealestate.it/index.ph...ione=47&idh=43
http://www.rdmrealestate.it/index.ph...ione=47&idh=43
Mar 15, 2012, 3:25 am
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Apr 1, 2012, 7:18 pm
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existing toronto closed last wednesday mar 28 - was this announced in advance? no mention here that i recall?
building is changing hands, so im assuming date was set
some articles say august for new one, that would only be 4 month gap
4 hotels still say "mid 2012"
today marks Q2
no rooms/reservations online yet
pudong site has launched
http://fourseasons.com/beijing/ interesting glitch - indicates there will be apts (or condohotel?)
=Q4
new on all FS sites >
Accessible [rooms/suites]
Accessible with Roll-in Shower [rooms/suites]
/accessible_features_overview/ [page]
im kind of confused as to how thats going to work out..
building is changing hands, so im assuming date was set
some articles say august for new one, that would only be 4 month gap
4 hotels still say "mid 2012"
today marks Q2
no rooms/reservations online yet
http://fourseasons.com/beijing/ interesting glitch - indicates there will be apts (or condohotel?)
=Q4
new on all FS sites >
Accessible [rooms/suites]
Accessible with Roll-in Shower [rooms/suites]
/accessible_features_overview/ [page]
im kind of confused as to how thats going to work out..
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Apr 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Apr 1, 2012, 7:26 pm
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