Goodmorning2U

The community surrounding the future Four Seasons Orlando appears to be moving forward.

http://disneygoldenoak.disney.go.com...S|e|9484134469

Kagehitokiri

FS is "proposed" and in "design" = may never happen.
disney residences having 6 month min lease also seems odd.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15919496-post15.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14188038-post218.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14046074-post12.html

luxury

FS site now lists FS Baku opening late-2011....

Shangri-La

Baku/Azerbijan must be a big location for the FS and the current Park Hyatt brands to set up properties. I didn't even know FS was going into Baku. The building looks very nice.

paul2

Four Seasons to open 11 new hotels in China per Gallivanters:

http://twitter.com/Gallivanters/stat...30692686139392

phantom862

A new FS Resort is planned on Jumeirah Beach Road . This will replace the Jumeirah Beach Club.



Looks like St Petersburg is scheduled for mid 2012

http://jobs.fourseasons.com/ourcompa...s_resorts.aspx

2012 might have a lot of openings with

Baku ( early 2012 )

Toronto , Shanghai Pudong & St Petersburg ( mid 2012)


expected : Beijing , Shenzhen , Moscow and Cham Island ( late 2012 )

Shangri-La

Michael Mina will be in charge of the three food and beverage concepts for the upcoming FS Baltimore.

http://www.baltimoremagazine.net/ing...sons-baltimore

phantom862

new FS to open in Casablanca , Morocco part of the luxurious Anfa Place project.

Should open by late 2012.

http://www.financenews.press.ma/port...asablanca.html

http://www.leconomiste.com/article/8...nte-casablanca

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...686856&page=16

http://www.businesstravel.fr/2011052...l-a-dubai.html

phantom862

looks like construction is scheduled for q1 2012

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...dCentral2.html

deer

In the July edition of brillant Gallivanter's Guide, Lyn is not only reporting from FS Hangzhou and Amanfayun, but also gossiping about 10 (!) new chinese Four Seasons in the next years:

- Quingdao on the Marina in 2013, but sadly a resort with a disgusting room count of 200+ rooms... As chinese authorities can censor everything, why couldn't they censor FS from even thinking about such unpersonal projects, which are not good for a real luxury brand at all?

- Guangzhou - set to open in late 2011

- Sanya on the Southern Tip of Hainan Islands

- Sozhou, an UNESCO site with classical gardens and canals

- Beijing 1 in the embassy area

- Beijing 2 in Financial Street

- Shenzhen Business Hotel

- Tianjin Business Hotel

- Hangzhou 2, also a business hotel complementing the West Lake property

- Chengdu, a mix of business and leisure in the city of spices

- Shanghai Pudong business hotel, opening mid 2012

Sounds like a little too much business hotels instead of resorts, too high room counts instead of private, personal and individual places with 60 to 120 rooms - and also sounds like FS has to open a huge hotelier academy in China to educate enough high quality staff...!

phantom862

The 2nd Hangzhou property is expected to include residences


elsewhere :

1. FS resort Megeve , France ( proposed )

2. FS hotel Foshan , China ( planning stages )

vuittonsofstyle

FS Hangzhou at West Lake includes Residences, too, but these are massive villas in the grounds - 3 of which are available to hotel guests. The 2nd Hangzhou hotel will have apartments - same owner.

seiknujnama

The owner is planning build 10 towers complex on the site.
FS will manage three towers includes one hotel and two residences

Shangri-La

Any idea of when Beijing will open?

The room count doesn't bother me for a resort. Maui has 380 rooms and suites, Hualalai has 243, and Nevis has 196.

deer

Really? I absolutely prefer sharing a beach, a fitness room and a breakfast restaurant with 40 to 80 people like at an Amanresort - compared to sharing it with 760 people at - no matter - a 380 room Four Seasons or a 380 room Novotel... That creates in most cases a feeling of package-tour mass tourism, and not one of individuality and luxury.

So in my eyes, Four Seasons devaluates it's brand with every resort bigger than 150 rooms - since it could not give ambitious travellers the safe feeling of a true luxury hotel.

Remember: The best Four Seasons like Golden Triangle, Sayan, Hangzhou, Milan, Provence or Florence have between 15 and maximum 120 rooms!