Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Jul 27, 2014, 12:14 am
#2656
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Jul 27, 2014, 1:28 am
#2658
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Non-Schengen gates in Pier A are labelled Z but bus arrivals are called A non-Schengen and on LH's arrival and departure information page maked as 'Terminal 1A, Bus'. It's located opposite gate A7 (Schengen bus gate) on this map. As you can see it's very close to exit A1.
It looks like TRAVELSIG has beaten me to it.
It looks like TRAVELSIG has beaten me to it.
Jul 27, 2014, 2:31 am
#2659
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Schengen and non-schengen can meet!
Hi Guys,
I had a Indian passport holder flying from the US via Frankfurt to Delhi.
Frankfurt Airport customer service told me no way that I (German passport holder, flying same day, same terminal) can meet a non-schengen person.
I looked at the airport map and saw there is only one prayer-room for the whole Terminal 1. So I thought...hang on...everyone must have access to a prayer room. Talking to the "information desk" people at the airport confirmed that terminal 1 transit is terminal 1 transit and all can mix. I was confused. Later on Lufthansa personal said no way..you can't mix. FRAPORT handling people said...yes...just go to B22 where the prayer room is, you have to go through passport checks but with a German passport its not a problem. So I did. Once at B22 I asked Lufthansa staff again. I explained that probably everyone has access to the prayer room at B22 and wondered if they agree. Disappointing, they did not really understand the concept of prayer rooms.
20 minutes later I had my friend next to me. hence...schengen and non-schengen can meet.
I had a Indian passport holder flying from the US via Frankfurt to Delhi.
Frankfurt Airport customer service told me no way that I (German passport holder, flying same day, same terminal) can meet a non-schengen person.
I looked at the airport map and saw there is only one prayer-room for the whole Terminal 1. So I thought...hang on...everyone must have access to a prayer room. Talking to the "information desk" people at the airport confirmed that terminal 1 transit is terminal 1 transit and all can mix. I was confused. Later on Lufthansa personal said no way..you can't mix. FRAPORT handling people said...yes...just go to B22 where the prayer room is, you have to go through passport checks but with a German passport its not a problem. So I did. Once at B22 I asked Lufthansa staff again. I explained that probably everyone has access to the prayer room at B22 and wondered if they agree. Disappointing, they did not really understand the concept of prayer rooms.
20 minutes later I had my friend next to me. hence...schengen and non-schengen can meet.
Jul 27, 2014, 4:09 am
#2660
Join Date: Jun 2000
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Since UA968/LH7602 is operated by United you won't have access to the FCL/FCT unfortunately. You could try the Senator Lounge in A concourse with your arriving F BP (or if you are *G) but your departing BP in Business may only give you access to the Business Lounge. Depending on your departure gate you may want to use the Business Lounge above gate A26 which is a former First Class Lounge and is more spacious and quieter than other Senator/Business lounges.
Jul 27, 2014, 1:03 pm
#2661
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Unless your flight from EWR is very late you should be able to spend some time in a lounge. If your flight arrives at a Z gate you only need to clear passport control. If it arrives at a remote stand and you are brought to the terminal by bus you may also have to clear security.
Jul 27, 2014, 2:21 pm
#2662
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Hello all! As an anxious traveler, I'm glad I came across this forum.
I have my first international flight booked for next March, travelling LH/LH MCO-FRA-BUD on one ticket with a 65 minute layover.
I booked the flight through slightly sketchy online travel agency via skyscanner, which given the chance to repeat, I would not. When checking my booking the other day on LH's website there was a message saying that a scheduling change had occurred and that I would need to re-book. When attempting, the website indicated I was unable to automatically.
Phone call to LH was very helpful, they explained that the flight time had changed by 10 minutes and as I booked through a travel agency, I would need to contact them to have them re-issue the ticket, at which point it would reflect on my LH booking. This is where I began to sweat, because I've read some nasty things online about this agency in particular, and was fully prepared to have to deal with unanswered phones/less-than-helpful representatives. To my surprise, after I spoke with them I received an email within ten-minutes with an updated e-ticket and confirmed flight reflected on LH's website.
Along with the normal questions about 65 minutes being enough time to connect to my BUD flight, here's what concerns me: should I miss my connection, would LH still put me on the next available flight to Budapest, or since I booked through a third-party, are they off the hook, leaving me essentially responsible for a new ticket?
I have my first international flight booked for next March, travelling LH/LH MCO-FRA-BUD on one ticket with a 65 minute layover.
I booked the flight through slightly sketchy online travel agency via skyscanner, which given the chance to repeat, I would not. When checking my booking the other day on LH's website there was a message saying that a scheduling change had occurred and that I would need to re-book. When attempting, the website indicated I was unable to automatically.
Phone call to LH was very helpful, they explained that the flight time had changed by 10 minutes and as I booked through a travel agency, I would need to contact them to have them re-issue the ticket, at which point it would reflect on my LH booking. This is where I began to sweat, because I've read some nasty things online about this agency in particular, and was fully prepared to have to deal with unanswered phones/less-than-helpful representatives. To my surprise, after I spoke with them I received an email within ten-minutes with an updated e-ticket and confirmed flight reflected on LH's website.
Along with the normal questions about 65 minutes being enough time to connect to my BUD flight, here's what concerns me: should I miss my connection, would LH still put me on the next available flight to Budapest, or since I booked through a third-party, are they off the hook, leaving me essentially responsible for a new ticket?
Jul 27, 2014, 2:25 pm
#2663
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Hello totallystoked and welcome to FT!
Unless your flight from MCO is late, 65 minutes should be OK. You'll probably need a bit of a brisk walk, but you'll be fine.
If you miss your connection, LH will rebook you. They are the operating carrier, and they are responsible.
Read NewbieRunner's superhelpful posts to understand how connections in FRA work (tl;dr: follow the signs if you don't know any better).
Enjoy your trip!
Unless your flight from MCO is late, 65 minutes should be OK. You'll probably need a bit of a brisk walk, but you'll be fine.
If you miss your connection, LH will rebook you. They are the operating carrier, and they are responsible.
Read NewbieRunner's superhelpful posts to understand how connections in FRA work (tl;dr: follow the signs if you don't know any better).
Enjoy your trip!
Jul 27, 2014, 2:30 pm
#2664
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I appreciate the response! Definitely helps to ease the anxiety. I'm a bit of a compulsive-planner so seeing the change in times from an already short connection (was initially 75 minutes) had me worried a bit.
Great to know that LH will cover a potential re-booking, but hoping it won't be necessary.
Great to know that LH will cover a potential re-booking, but hoping it won't be necessary.
Jul 27, 2014, 3:50 pm
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Welcome to FT, totallystoked!
It sounds like you will be on LH465 connecting to LH1338. 65 mins should be enough for the connection provided the incoming flight is not late. Since there are later flights to BUD, if you miss your connection Lufthansa will put you on one of the later flights as malmostoso already mentioned. Once you start your travel the airline is responsible to take you to your destination regardless of where you bought the ticket.
It sounds like you will be on LH465 connecting to LH1338. 65 mins should be enough for the connection provided the incoming flight is not late. Since there are later flights to BUD, if you miss your connection Lufthansa will put you on one of the later flights as malmostoso already mentioned. Once you start your travel the airline is responsible to take you to your destination regardless of where you bought the ticket.
Jul 27, 2014, 4:22 pm
#2666
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Those are indeed my flights! Out of curiosity, I looked at the remaining later flights on my date, and a majority of them are already sold-out. Is this normal for a FRA-BUD leg eight months in advance, or possibly a case of bulk tickets purchased by online travel agents such as the one I used for such a cheap fare?
Thank you both for your reassurance. As this is my first trip to Europe and being the conspicuous planner, I tend to have a lot of questions (see: worries.)
Glad to have found this site. As a newcomer to the world of travel, it's really interesting browsing the forums and learning.
Thanks for all your help!
Thank you both for your reassurance. As this is my first trip to Europe and being the conspicuous planner, I tend to have a lot of questions (see: worries.)
Glad to have found this site. As a newcomer to the world of travel, it's really interesting browsing the forums and learning.
Thanks for all your help!
Last edited by totallystoked; Jul 27, 2014 at 4:31 pm Reason: mistake
Jul 27, 2014, 6:00 pm
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Those are indeed my flights! Out of curiosity, I looked at the remaining later flights on my date, and a majority of them are already sold-out. Is this normal for a FRA-BUD leg eight months in advance, or possibly a case of bulk tickets purchased by online travel agents such as the one I used for such a cheap fare?
Thank you both for your reassurance. As this is my first trip to Europe and being the conspicuous planner, I tend to have a lot of questions (see: worries.)
Glad to have found this site. As a newcomer to the world of travel, it's really interesting browsing the forums and learning.
Thanks for all your help!
Thank you both for your reassurance. As this is my first trip to Europe and being the conspicuous planner, I tend to have a lot of questions (see: worries.)
Glad to have found this site. As a newcomer to the world of travel, it's really interesting browsing the forums and learning.
Thanks for all your help!
Jul 27, 2014, 6:47 pm
#2668
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Still, odd that so many flights with that fare-class would be sold so far out? I have seen a good amount of one-ways to BUD that week on sky scanner for under $800.
Last edited by totallystoked; Jul 27, 2014 at 6:54 pm
Jul 27, 2014, 11:47 pm
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Sometimes the really cheap fares just aren't loaded yet. The same thing happened to me when trying to book an April trip to BKK a few days ago.
Jul 28, 2014, 5:17 am
#2670
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Hi. We are flying lufthansa from Dublin to Athens via Frankfurt and have a 50 minute scheduled layover (although the last few connections I looked at seem to have have had 1hr or 1 hr 10mins based on when they get in vs when the next one leaves).
From what I can tell from the Lufthansa site, the dublin flight seems to usually get in at either gate B22 or C02 and the Athens flight usually leaves from gate A58 - > A69.
Is 50 minutes enough time to make that transfer assuming we have to go through security since Ireland is non-schengen? How long does that typically take at around 8 or 9am? We intend to sprint, not just run.
Thanks
From what I can tell from the Lufthansa site, the dublin flight seems to usually get in at either gate B22 or C02 and the Athens flight usually leaves from gate A58 - > A69.
Is 50 minutes enough time to make that transfer assuming we have to go through security since Ireland is non-schengen? How long does that typically take at around 8 or 9am? We intend to sprint, not just run.
Thanks