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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old May 30, 2014, 4:41 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Except that the next flight won't be until the following day...
Well, it's on a Friday coming back from our Honeymoon, so I wouldn't be too upset. Worst case we explore Frankfurt for a half a day.
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Z50 to B16

I've been through FRA a few times, and I certainly haven't mastered it! I have a 70 minute non-S to non-S connection, with my ORD - FRA LH flight arriving at gate Z50, and my FRA - BKK Thai Flight departing from gate B46. What is the best way to get from Z50 to B46 anyone? It's on Saturday afternoon if that makes any difference. Many thanks!
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Old May 30, 2014, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by 100countrygoal
I've been through FRA a few times, and I certainly haven't mastered it! I have a 70 minute non-S to non-S connection, with my ORD - FRA LH flight arriving at gate Z50, and my FRA - BKK Thai Flight departing from gate B46. What is the best way to get from Z50 to B46 anyone? It's on Saturday afternoon if that makes any difference. Many thanks!
If you are arriving in FRA today (31 May) this reply may come too late but it looks like LH433 left ORD 45 mins late and is currently expected to arrive in FRA 40 mins late at 14:15. It leaves only 30 mins till TG921 departs at 14:45. There shoud be fast track security for passengers with tight connections but 30 mins is extremely tight from Z to B. The connection will be via the Skyline train.

Should you miss the connection there are two later flights to BKK (LH and TG) and they will put you on one of them.
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Old Jun 2, 2014, 12:20 am
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I have a question for this forum. I will be arriving at FRA from YYZ at 11am. My wife will be arriving at FRA from MUC at 1pm on the same day. I am scheduled to leave from FRA to MUC at 6pm to catch the Thai flt to BKK later that evening. My wife is scheduled to take the Thai flt from FRA to BKK also later that evening. We are both Star Alliance Gold. My question is - while in FRA, will we be in the same area of the terminal and thus able to use the same Senators lounge? Or will we be in different sections of the departure lounge as I am continuing on to MUC and she is going to BKK. Since we have a fairly long layover (5 hours at least for me) in FRA, I was wondering if we could meet and spend time at the same Senators lounge.
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Old Jun 2, 2014, 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by LoveSQ
I have a question for this forum. I will be arriving at FRA from YYZ at 11am. My wife will be arriving at FRA from MUC at 1pm on the same day. I am scheduled to leave from FRA to MUC at 6pm to catch the Thai flt to BKK later that evening. My wife is scheduled to take the Thai flt from FRA to BKK also later that evening. We are both Star Alliance Gold. My question is - while in FRA, will we be in the same area of the terminal and thus able to use the same Senators lounge? Or will we be in different sections of the departure lounge as I am continuing on to MUC and she is going to BKK. Since we have a fairly long layover (5 hours at least for me) in FRA, I was wondering if we could meet and spend time at the same Senators lounge.


If arriving at B (assuming AC 876) you won't be able to stay in B with a MUC connection, so head over to A50 via tunnel (enter Schengen) to meet her until she leaves.

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Old Jun 2, 2014, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by LoveSQ
I have a question for this forum. I will be arriving at FRA from YYZ at 11am. My wife will be arriving at FRA from MUC at 1pm on the same day. I am scheduled to leave from FRA to MUC at 6pm to catch the Thai flt to BKK later that evening. My wife is scheduled to take the Thai flt from FRA to BKK also later that evening. We are both Star Alliance Gold. My question is - while in FRA, will we be in the same area of the terminal and thus able to use the same Senators lounge? Or will we be in different sections of the departure lounge as I am continuing on to MUC and she is going to BKK. Since we have a fairly long layover (5 hours at least for me) in FRA, I was wondering if we could meet and spend time at the same Senators lounge.
Your AC flight from YYZ will arrive at a B gate and your flight to MUC leaves from an A gate. Your wife will arrive at an A gate and her TG flight leaves from a B gate. As sp4294 says the SEN Lounge in A (close to gate A50) will be the best option for you. However, 5+ hours is far too long to spend in a lounge. Use a shower in the lounge but afterwards you may want to go landside to the Squaire where there are decent restaurants and bars or even a quick trip into Frankfurt.
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Old Jun 2, 2014, 9:37 am
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Thank you sp4294 and Newbierunner for your guidance. Just to clarify - can my wife access the Senators lounge at A50, as her connecting Thai flight will leave from B.
Another quick question on the same topic - she is arriving on LH First from YUL to MUC, then LH C from MUC to FRA and then travelling on Thai First from FRA to BKK. Given this, can she use the FC Lounge in FRA while waiting for her Thai First flight?
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Old Jun 2, 2014, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by LoveSQ
Thank you sp4294 and Newbierunner for your guidance. Just to clarify - can my wife access the Senators lounge at A50, as her connecting Thai flight will leave from B.
Another quick question on the same topic - she is arriving on LH First from YUL to MUC, then LH C from MUC to FRA and then travelling on Thai First from FRA to BKK. Given this, can she use the FC Lounge in FRA while waiting for her Thai First flight?
Your wife will arrive at an A gate and she can access any SEN lounge. If she is flying MUC-FRA on the same day that she arrives in MUC, she has access to any FCL (but not the FCT) in FRA as well. In fact she may be able to guest you into the FCL A as according to the lounge access rules:

To access the First Class Terminal and the First Class Lounges travelling companions must present a valid boarding pass for the same flight as the passenger who invited them. Life partners, spouses and children under 18 years must present a valid boarding pass for a flight departing on the same day as the passenger who invited them.
Since you are leaving before her there shouldn't be any problem. After you leave for MUC, your wife can move to the FCL B which is more convenient for her TG flight.
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Old Jun 2, 2014, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Your wife will arrive at an A gate and she can access any SEN lounge. If she is flying MUC-FRA on the same day that she arrives in MUC, she has access to any FCL (but not the FCT) in FRA as well. In fact she may be able to guest you into the FCL A as according to the lounge access rules:



Since you are leaving before her there shouldn't be any problem. After you leave for MUC, your wife can move to the FCL B which is more convenient for her TG flight.

Thanks a lot Newbierunner! Much appreciated. A big relief too. I can meet her at FCL A and after I leave for MUC, she can move to FCL B. Perfect.
Thanks again!
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Hello, all. Apologies if this has already been answered 100 times, but 174 pages and 2600 replies is too much to go digging for the answer.

I have two connection scenarios that I'd like advice on. I've never been to FRA, and my mother has never flown outside of North America, but we've got an itinerary where she will fly ORD-FRA on UA, and I fly YVR-FRA on LH. We meet up at FRA, and will connect to the same LH flight (I think 760 or 761, I forget the number and don't have my itinerary handy) to DEL. She is scheduled to arrive a couple hours before me, and was planning to meet me at my arrival gate. Is this possible (I.e. Will arrival gate info be available and/or are we likely to arrive in parts of the terminal where arriving passengers can meet other arriving passengers)? Our plan B is to simply meet at the DEL departure gate, which I guess works well enough.

However, today I learned of a possibility that my employer may want me to meet with a vendor in Germany, since I'll be passing through anyway. If that happens, I'll go a day or two earlier. In that case, is it possible for me to meet her at her arrival gate when she arrives, or is that somehow not possible given that I'll essentially be a FRA-origin passenger trying to meet an international transit passenger?

What's the best advice for the two potential itineraries?
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Old Jun 4, 2014, 10:13 pm
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In my opinion departure gate is always best. There can be no misunderstandings and even if someone is running late it's where you need to go anyway.

You will probably have no trouble getting to her arrival gate but you might. And it's easy to miss someone at arrival. Having her call on arrival does make it a lot easier though :-).
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Originally Posted by rmadisonwi
Hello, all. Apologies if this has already been answered 100 times, but 174 pages and 2600 replies is too much to go digging for the answer.

I have two connection scenarios that I'd like advice on. I've never been to FRA, and my mother has never flown outside of North America, but we've got an itinerary where she will fly ORD-FRA on UA, and I fly YVR-FRA on LH. We meet up at FRA, and will connect to the same LH flight (I think 760 or 761, I forget the number and don't have my itinerary handy) to DEL. She is scheduled to arrive a couple hours before me, and was planning to meet me at my arrival gate. Is this possible (I.e. Will arrival gate info be available and/or are we likely to arrive in parts of the terminal where arriving passengers can meet other arriving passengers)? Our plan B is to simply meet at the DEL departure gate, which I guess works well enough.

However, today I learned of a possibility that my employer may want me to meet with a vendor in Germany, since I'll be passing through anyway. If that happens, I'll go a day or two earlier. In that case, is it possible for me to meet her at her arrival gate when she arrives, or is that somehow not possible given that I'll essentially be a FRA-origin passenger trying to meet an international transit passenger?

What's the best advice for the two potential itineraries?
Arriving passengers are separated from departing passengers in FRA as in many other airports. There is some exception (e.g. arrivals from Schengen countries, arrivals from the US at Z gates) but I don't think meeting at the arrival gate is an option in either scenario.

UA flights usually arrive at Z gates and it is unlikely you and your mother can meet at the arrival gate unless you also arrive at a Z gate or your flight departs from a Z gate. Checking LH.com's arrival and departure information, it looks like DEL flights leave from a B gate. So the best/only option will be to meet in B concourse. If you don't have lounge access there is a bar/restaurant in the central area of Pier B.
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I'll be flying MAA FRA MUC CLT. I know I have to go through passport control in Frankfurt as well as security, but do they have an elite security line? My connection time is only 1.5 hours. Not short enough for the quick lane, but not too long either.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 7:48 am
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Extra security in FRA for US departures:

Tightening of security checks for flights to the USA (update)

As previously reported, due to a tightening of security checks for flights to the USA, there may be additional checks of electronic devices (mobile phones, tablets, laptops, etc.) for flights to the USA. In Germany, these measures only affect direct flights from Frankfurt to the USA. A total of 18 airports in Europe, Africa and the Middle East are affected.

Lufthansa provides 147 flights from Frankfurt to 16 destinations in the USA every week, and in total there are 215 weekly flights to 17 destinations. We do not currently expect there to be any impact on flight operations or for any delays to transpire as a result. Check-in procedures and security checks are currently running as normal.

We generally recommend that all passengers travelling to the USA arrive at the airport on time (two hours before departure) and allocate enough time for the security checks. This recommendation continues to be valid. We also recommend that our passengers present any larger electronic devices charged fully charged and without any packaging or cases at the security check. Should an empty battery prevent a functional check from taking place, chargers for current models are available at the checkpoints in Frankfurt.

The Federal Police is responsible for carrying out security checks in Germany. We are unable to comment on the procedures or on any changes to the procedures occurring as a result of guidelines issued by the American authorities. Please refer to the Federal Police or the German Federal Ministry of the Interior (BMI) in this regard.

Lufthansa Group Security is in constant contact with public safety authorities and will provide information about any further developments.

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Gate closures due to apron work:

Next phase of construction at FRA airport

The first stage of the extensive renovation and construction work to be done on the apron at FRA airport will be completed mid-July. This means that two important wide-body positions at Terminal A (A25 and 23), as well as one on the western B pier (B26), can be used again. The next phase of construction will begin at the same time, meaning that between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. on both Sunday, 13 July, and Monday, 14 July, the entire A/B forecourt (apron between Terminal A and B) will be closed. Furthermore, for an expected period of five weeks, four wide-body positions will be completely closed off in this area for the duration of this period, and there will only be limited usage of a further four positions.

In parallel to the work on the A/B forecourt, the taxiway in front of Terminal B will also be refurbished. This means that for four weeks, almost half of all configurations at Terminal B, including the positioning area, will be completely closed between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. every night. This may lead to bottlenecks during the peripheral periods (night-flight ban and early arrivals).
Furthermore, parts of the runway heads will also be refurbished, but this will not result in any substantial restrictions, however.

In total, the first phase of construction work could be finished on time, if not earlier in some cases, and without any major incidents. This additional phase of construction is planned until mid August, while the entire operation will run until the end of November.
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