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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Apr 28, 2014, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by DanTravel
I have a one hour return connection at FRA. Arriving from within the EU (ZAG) Croatia Air, but connecting to YYZ on Air Canada - both are Star Alliance flights.

Is one hour really enough time to get off the plane, go through customs/security, and make it on to my international flight?

It doesn't matter to me if I miss my flight, but wondering what the likelihood of this is.
I can't see any one hour connection between Croatia Airlines and Air Canada in FRA but your flight from ZAG will arrive at a B gate (or a B bus gate) and your flight to YYZ will also leave from a B gate.

Although Croatia is in the EU it is not a Schengen country, so you will have to clear security but no passport control between the flights.

One hour is tight but if your flight from ZAG arrives on time you will be fine. There is a fast track security lane for passengers with less than 30 minutes before their connecting flight.
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Old May 1, 2014, 1:52 pm
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AGP - FRA - SFO with just 60 minutes Layover

LH1499 - 01.06.14 Malaga - Frankfurt 13:25 16:25
LH9126 - 01.06.14 Frankfurt - San Francisco 17:25 19:45
I have the above flight in business class with just 60 minutes of layover and after reading the fantastic FAQ in the beginning of this post and checking multiple maps, sites etc, I can't figure out if I'll be able to make it in time, if it's tight or not.

It's going to be my first time flying via FRA to SFO, and I've previously made it via CDG which I don't think that it could be worst than that.

Do you have any ideas where the AGP flight arrives and where the SFO flight departs from?

Many thanks and I am happy to be part of this community.
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Old May 2, 2014, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by bendercy

LH1499 - 01.06.14 Malaga - Frankfurt 13:25 16:25
LH9126 - 01.06.14 Frankfurt - San Francisco 17:25 19:45
I have the above flight in business class with just 60 minutes of layover and after reading the fantastic FAQ in the beginning of this post and checking multiple maps, sites etc, I can't figure out if I'll be able to make it in time, if it's tight or not.

It's going to be my first time flying via FRA to SFO, and I've previously made it via CDG which I don't think that it could be worst than that.

Do you have any ideas where the AGP flight arrives and where the SFO flight departs from?

Many thanks and I am happy to be part of this community.
Welcome to FT, bendercy!

LH1149 (rather than LH1499) does not seem to operate every day but if you check the arrival information for LH1151 on lufthansa.com you will find that it can arrive at an A gate, B gate or at a bus gate. This makes planning a little difficult.

LH9126 is operated by United and is likely to depart from a Z gate. Look out for departure information for UA927 as well as LH9126 on display boards. You will have to clear passport control and document check but there's no need to clear security in FRA.

If your flight from AGP is not late you should be fine. Just follow the signs for your departure gate.
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Old May 2, 2014, 10:32 am
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Many thanks for your reply NewbieRunner. Seems the flight operates only on Sundays. Thank you for spotting the mistake in the AGP-FRA one.

I hope is not a bus gate or otherwise it's going to be super tight. I've been checking some stats on: http://es.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH1149 and found out that it took them 2:30 hours instead of 3 hours these last two Sunday flights.

Do you know of a resource that could provide me where this flight arrived in the last few times and if it was on time or not?

Many thanks for your fantastic and useful help!
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Old May 2, 2014, 1:46 pm
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Yet another question about lounge access

Hello Flyertalkers,

To get a reward ticket with the long segments on LH F I had to take a route with a few stops. I'll be flying YUL-MUC in first, then on to FRA in business and finally on to EDI in business. All flight are on LH metal. Will I have access to a first class lounge during my short layover in FRA?

Thanks for your input!

Jimmy,
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Old May 2, 2014, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jimmyjam
To get a reward ticket with the long segments on LH F I had to take a route with a few stops. I'll be flying YUL-MUC in first, then on to FRA in business and finally on to EDI in business. All flight are on LH metal. Will I have access to a first class lounge during my short layover in FRA?
You will have access to the FCL in FRA as long as your MUC-FRA and FRA-EDI flights are on the same day you arrive in MUC.
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Old May 2, 2014, 3:25 pm
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Thanks a lot NewbieRunner!

Thanks also for spotting the error in my flight number, just mistyped it

Do you have any website or resource to check to which gate did the AGP-FRA flight did arrive to in the last few times? What I could see is that it arrived in 2:30 hours instead of the 3 hours that it has programmed.

I am actually thinking that this flight is pretty tight and specially if I have to get via a bus gate?

PS: I posted via "fast reply" and it went into moderation queue.
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Old May 2, 2014, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by bendercy
Thanks a lot NewbieRunner!

Thanks also for spotting the error in my flight number, just mistyped it

Do you have any website or resource to check to which gate did the AGP-FRA flight did arrive to in the last few times? What I could see is that it arrived in 2:30 hours instead of the 3 hours that it has programmed.

I am actually thinking that this flight is pretty tight and specially if I have to get via a bus gate?

PS: I posted via "fast reply" and it went into moderation queue.
The only place that I know of where you can check the arrival gate of LH flights is:

https://www.lufthansa.com/online/myp...l=en&cid=18002

When you find your flight, click on 'Additional options' > 'Flight details' (or just 'Flight details' for flights in the past) and you will see the arrival gate number in FRA. You can check the gate number for yesterday, today and a couple of days ahead in some cases, though they can change at the last minute.
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Hello,

My parents are traveling LH755 connecting on UA 969 to US. They have about 2.5 hrs of connecting time and guess it is sufficient make a transit from B to Z gates.

My question - usually LH755 flight arrives at A or B gates; but when I check the flight status for May 6th, it says Z69A and checked for the past 3 days and it always arrives at B gate. Does anyone know if LH755 arrives at Z gates instead of A/B gates
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Old May 4, 2014, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by miles-dallas
Hello,

My parents are traveling LH755 connecting on UA 969 to US. They have about 2.5 hrs of connecting time and guess it is sufficient make a transit from B to Z gates.

My question - usually LH755 flight arrives at A or B gates; but when I check the flight status for May 6th, it says Z69A and checked for the past 3 days and it always arrives at B gate. Does anyone know if LH755 arrives at Z gates instead of A/B gates
Unfortunately the same flight can arrive at completely different gates from day to day in FRA. As you noticed LH755 arrives at B bus gates yesterday, is expected to arrive at B26A and tomorrow at Z69A. Wherever they arrive they will have to clear security (but no passport control) before their connecting flight on UA. They should just follow the signs for their departure gate which is almost always a Z gate. If they arrive at a B gate it will mean riding the Skyline train to Z. LH755 will not arrive at A gates because they are only used by Schengen flights.

The letter A after the number means 'arrival' because most arrivals from non-Schengen countries enter the terminal on a different level (arrival level) from the departure gates.
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Thanks NewbieRunner. If they arrive either at B or Z gates, they would clear the security at Z gate after taking the BAZ train
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Originally Posted by miles-dallas
Thanks NewbieRunner. If they arrive either at B or Z gates, they would clear the security at Z gate after taking the BAZ train
If they arrive in B I think security if after they take the train. If they arrive in Z there's no need to take the train but security will be in the central area of Z which could be quite a long walk from the arrival gate (especially from Z69A).
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Old May 5, 2014, 7:00 am
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Now the arrival gate has been updated to B26A. Sorry for this question; but how far is the train from this gate since my elderly parents walk slowly.
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Originally Posted by miles-dallas
Now the arrival gate has been updated to B26A. Sorry for this question; but how far is the train from this gate since my elderly parents walk slowly.
It's hard to say how far the train is from the arrival gate. This is my best attempt to show the positions of gate B26A (red circle), the Skyline train platform for B/C (purple circle) and the platform for Z (green circle). I'm not sure if this map (found on lufthansa.com) is to scale but the length of Z pier (Z50-69) is a little under half a mile so you get some idea of the distance.



Are they actually arriving in FRA tomorrow morning? If so, the arrival gate of LH755 is now showing as B23A which might be marginally closer. The departure gate of UA969 is shown as Z16 which is about the closest to the Skyline platform as one can get. However, I'm not certain where security clearance takes place as I have not followed this route for some time. It's possible that security check is in the central area of Pier Z (area marked in red) and they will have to walk there and back after getting off the Skyline train.

If they can walk the distance (approx. 3/4 mile), however slowly, 2.5 hours should be more than enough for the connection.
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Thanks once again. My parents just checked-in at BLR airport, but they didn't recieve the onward boarding pass (FRA-EWR) and were told to get at FRA airport. This might be another cause of concern as they have to find a 'ticketing counter' where they can get the boarding pass. Without boarding pass, how will they clear security to the gates.

do you know where they can get the boarding pass or nearest boarding pass counter
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