[ARCHIVE 2018 to 2019] Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}
Jun 21, 2019, 6:44 pm
#1096
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DEN
Posts: 136
I don't see how 80% of the hotel would realistically be filled with points stays. According to the brochure in this thread there are 122 villas at the hotel. Only 16 of those (~13%) are rooms that can be booked at the 120k rate. From there the points cost goes totally dynamic and spikes to 500k+ per night.
Given those numbers, I wouldn't expect more than 20-30% of the villas to be filled by guests paying points, unless the hotel is getting really high paid upgrade numbers and then releases that base room space again.
Given those numbers, I wouldn't expect more than 20-30% of the villas to be filled by guests paying points, unless the hotel is getting really high paid upgrade numbers and then releases that base room space again.
Jun 21, 2019, 7:35 pm
#1097
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
I mean points and then upgrades, free and paid. They will be upgrading like a headless chicken to get occupancy rates up, incidental cash in and re-release 120K rooms into inventory.
Do we have any stats on Arabs not using loyalty programs? Why wouldn't they? Surely it makes sense to pay then get free stuff? I thought folks with money are usually stingy and take advantage of anything to keep it. That's how they stay rich. Dunno, maybe it's part of their culture. The only properties in the Hilton chain where there are no points limits are in Arabia. Coincidence?
Anyway, you guys might well be right however you can't compare it to Rangali where 25% of rooms are Golds & Diamonds on points. Price point is totally different. 80% is probably excessive but if you include paid upgrades like I mentioned and upgrading to re-release 120K inventory I think you'll find 50% (60 rooms) is easily doable.
Do we have any stats on Arabs not using loyalty programs? Why wouldn't they? Surely it makes sense to pay then get free stuff? I thought folks with money are usually stingy and take advantage of anything to keep it. That's how they stay rich. Dunno, maybe it's part of their culture. The only properties in the Hilton chain where there are no points limits are in Arabia. Coincidence?
Anyway, you guys might well be right however you can't compare it to Rangali where 25% of rooms are Golds & Diamonds on points. Price point is totally different. 80% is probably excessive but if you include paid upgrades like I mentioned and upgrading to re-release 120K inventory I think you'll find 50% (60 rooms) is easily doable.
Jun 21, 2019, 8:42 pm
#1098
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 119
The Conrad is mainly points stay. Because, it is one of like 5 of valuable hilton properties. It also demands fairly high prices for sub-par rooms. The Conred is beatiful and all, but doesn't have good value for those paying with cash. There are many resorts with much nicer rooms for the same price points. Example : Two-Bedroom outdated beach villa at Conrad (2,700) or Two-Bedroom overwater at residence Maldives (1,700).
Jun 21, 2019, 10:27 pm
#1099
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MEL
Programs: QF OWE, HH D, HGP D, Starriott Plat, AA/LM/SQ/VA/QF/AS/BA
Posts: 251
I'm late to the party, only realizing now that this property exists and that I have enough points/desire to go there, and now the availability has dried up significantly for the Dec 2019 - Mar 2020 high-season. There is no 5-day availability during that time. However, there is availability in October (when there is a higher chance of rain), or there is also wide-open availability during high season at the Conrad Maldives which I am also considering.
Jun 22, 2019, 12:12 am
#1100
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium/LTG, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,921
Finally got around to book my hotel the night prior to arrival (get into MLE at 22:00) and ended up at the Huvan Beach Hotel for a frugal $45 for the night in an ocean view room with balcony. $45 will get me 2 or maybe 3 bottles of Evian at the resort?
Advised them of the hotel and they asked again if I was interested in a paid upgrade ..... guess they are keen to get points guest into higher paid rooms. I declined and will enjoy my points booked beach villa thanks.
Jun 22, 2019, 12:20 am
#1101
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,724
I'm surprised by the villa density...seems a little crowded?
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Jun 22, 2019, 10:31 am
#1102
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 119
Some of the menus. Looks like they are going to obviously change, but are good for getting an idea of the price-point.
Jun 22, 2019, 12:11 pm
#1103
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,306
$20 for a Ceaser or $35 for a burger looks to be inline (although spendy) for a resort at this level. But $80 for a lobster roll? Think I’ll wait until I m back in Boston and pay $24 for an over-priced one there. I assume all of these prices are ++ as well?
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Jun 22, 2019, 12:49 pm
#1104
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 104
Agreed. Some of the other prices seem at the outer limits of gouging but the lobster roll pricing is beyond insane. If served plain, the $17 french fries are approaching that territory too.
Jun 22, 2019, 2:58 pm
#1105
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, DL PM, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 920
Jun 22, 2019, 3:40 pm
#1106
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
Like I said, Conrad Rangali is 20%, max 25%, of rooms on points stays. Get with it, dude.
Rubbish! At $350-400++ in a low season sale it's a fantastic deal for a newly renovated BV. Even standard 25 or 30% off BAR (which is pretty standard for pre-paid, non-cancellable rates) is a really good deal.
If you're going to post with 'facts', get them straight first. And please, spell correctly.
If you're going to post with 'facts', get them straight first. And please, spell correctly.
Jun 22, 2019, 3:55 pm
#1107
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 253
I'm from New England ... hahahahaha re lobster (part of Terra menu) and lobster roll $$ ... yup let's go all the way to the Maldives for Maine lobster ...
Jun 22, 2019, 4:27 pm
#1108
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 3,623
I guess I'm not a "foodie" as I've never paid anything like $388++ for dinner for one person, before drinks.
Jun 22, 2019, 4:56 pm
#1110
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
Some of the prices are indeed ridiculous - but what did we expect. $17++ for fries....must be due to the world potato shortage. At least there are some reasonably priced items there.....