[ARCHIVE 2018 to 2019] Conrad Maldives Rangali Island {MDV}
#1411
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Land at MLE. Get to paradise as soon as possible.
#1412
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,306
Anyone have any advice on renting a catamaran/sailboat in the Maldives. I know this is not specific to Conrad, but there are many Maldives experts here. We were thinking of renting one for a week. Plan would be to board in Male then sail to the Conrad and disembark there and spend a week or more.
Thanks fro any advice
Dave
PS...perhaps PM me so this thread does not get filled with info most don’t care about.
Thanks fro any advice
Dave
PS...perhaps PM me so this thread does not get filled with info most don’t care about.
#1414
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BA GGL; Virgin Gold; HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 417
I disagree with a much earlier poster - this is exactly the sort of topic that people staying here for the first time (or even ones who’ve not tried the 2 different routes) come here hoping to clean insight about to help them choose - so I’ll post my personal experience too.
We normally arrive on the day flight, and the point is almost moot in that case - go to the resort (I think there is a tiny bit of room for views to differ even on that, but my experience is you’ll get there in the afternoon, sometimes fairly late afternoon if the transfers don’t line up well, but irrespective you’ll not feel cheated or too tired to fully enjoy the remains for the day).
We have however arrived on the night flight a number of times. The bags don’t come off quickly, even from the premium cabins - I’m always first in line at the immigration desks and then almost wish I hadn’t been, as once that’s done it feels like forever doing nothing waiting for the bags. So, the timings people have posted about earlier accord with my experiences of when you’ll leave the airport etc. The choice is then going to a local hotel or the domestic flight & speedboat.
This year we arrived on a night flight from Singapore. We stayed at H78 - one of the local hotels ‘at the airport island’ rather than on Male. It proceeded as follows,
• we paid about $100
• we were in bed asleep around midnight
• we had a terrific breakfast there around 7am (nice view over the ocean)
• we were in the Conrad lounge at around 8:30am (massaged, fed, pampered, check-into our room)
• we were on an early(ish) seaplane - 9:30am (we’ve been on earlier ones previously)
• arrived at the resort at about 11am (quick 30 min flight + 1 hour time difference in Rangali)
• room was ready but we left them to deal with the bags and all that and headed into the seats on the beach outside the bar and had a iced coffee and could have had a 3rd breakfast if we’d wanted to!)
Beyond the facts above, my personal perspective was:
• I’ve been here a crazy number of times, yet I wouldn’t want to miss the experience of the daytime seaplane (if you’re coming for the first time then consider that carefully - it really is quite something and shows you exactly where you are in the world and adds tremendously to the feeling when you are on the island).
• I don’t consider myself short of a bob or two, but even I find it hard to get my head round paying $1000 extra for simply being asleep in a Rangali bed on that night (I.e. both ways you effectively ‘arrive’ awake in the resort at nearly the same time. Don’t be misled by when breakfast is - don’t be shy: tell them what you want and they’ll be delighted (they really will be) to accommodate: it’s what they’re all about there. (Ironically I did in fact pay many multiples of that for the bed on the flight - and even so I still feel that way about the extra 1000).
• We had a full day on Rangali in the sense that we felt refreshed and not cheated out of some sleep (or cash!). Didn’t spend the extra cash on Ithaa but is a thought to consider if budgets are tight.
So my perspective accords with that of MaldivesFreak - and while his points around saving cash are right too, the points he makes about maximising time on the island are absolutely right - I guess factually you do have about an hour less (actually awake on the island) on your first day if you stay elsewhere on the first night, but the quality of your day is highly likely to be improved by considerably more than that hour! (If you do go the overnight in the airport island route, then 2 things are key: insist on an early seaplane - they’ll never promise an exact time as its outside Conrad’s control but they will assure you of a 7am-9:30am slot if tell them too; and second, ‘insist’ your room is ready for your arrival - that one’s trickier, not least if you have a specific villa number in mind!)
#1415
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 107
Yes, I'm not disagreeing that there are advantages to staying overnight in Male - as mentioned in my posts , so you're recapping what I and others have already stated. Where I disagree is with the assertion that if you stay five nights, you get a longer stay than if you're there for six nights, or if you arrive at 10.30am, you're arriving there earlier than someone who got there at 1am the same day.
My point: there are TWO options for arrival when your international flight lands too late for seaplane transfer, each with its advantages and disadvantages. First time visitors should be aware of this and make a decision based on what's important to them. I don't think it's right to say that the only option they have is to overnight and transfer the following day. That works for many - and that point has been made here over and over and over again - but it may not work for all.
My point: there are TWO options for arrival when your international flight lands too late for seaplane transfer, each with its advantages and disadvantages. First time visitors should be aware of this and make a decision based on what's important to them. I don't think it's right to say that the only option they have is to overnight and transfer the following day. That works for many - and that point has been made here over and over and over again - but it may not work for all.
#1416
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium/LTG, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,921
Anyone have any advice on renting a catamaran/sailboat in the Maldives. I know this is not specific to Conrad, but there are many Maldives experts here. We were thinking of renting one for a week. Plan would be to board in Male then sail to the Conrad and disembark there and spend a week or more.
Thanks fro any advice
Dave
PS...perhaps PM me so this thread does not get filled with info most don’t care about.
Thanks fro any advice
Dave
PS...perhaps PM me so this thread does not get filled with info most don’t care about.
They inform that the 100kms it takes between Male and the Conrad usually takes around 7 hours but they did it in 5 days so they could spend most of that time cruising and surfing around the South Male atolls. The cost is approx. US$1k per day including 3 meals/day excluding alcoholic beverages. Did not ask if water/soft drinks/juices were provided.
#1417
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA, AS, Marriott
Posts: 6,068
My point: there are TWO options for arrival when your international flight lands too late for seaplane transfer, each with its advantages and disadvantages. First time visitors should be aware of this and make a decision based on what's important to them. I don't think it's right to say that the only option they have is to overnight and transfer the following day. That works for many - and that point has been made here over and over and over again - but it may not work for all.
Also, imagine this being your first time in the Maldives and missing the last flight of the night. You're then stuck paying the "resort price" for that missed night plus a walk up rate at a hotel near the airport or in Malé. Instead we could take things slowly and enjoy our time that evening and use the next morning to adjust. The Hotel Jen put on a good breakfast, and we request (and received) an afternoon transfer by seaplane to the resort. We arrived late afternoon and still had a few hours of sunlight left to explore and managed a quick swim in the water off of our villa as well as in the pool that evening. The fruit and drinks upon arrival sustained us until the next morning when we were up well before breakfast started and had already gone for an early morning swim before venturing over to Vilu.
I think it's a matter of personal preference, but we enjoyed the slower pace of spending the first night in Malé and haven't looked back. Given all of these considerations, I think we'd do it exactly the same way if we ever make it back to that resort in the near future.
#1418
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
Beyond the facts above, my personal perspective was:
• I’ve been here a crazy number of times, yet I wouldn’t want to miss the experience of the daytime seaplane (if you’re coming for the first time then consider that carefully - it really is quite something and shows you exactly where you are in the world and adds tremendously to the feeling when you are on the island).
+1. So true.
If you do go the overnight in the airport island route, then 2 things are key: insist on an early seaplane - they’ll never promise an exact time as its outside Conrad’s control but they will assure you of a 7am-9:30am slot if tell them too; and second, ‘insist’ your room is ready for your arrival - that one’s trickier, not least if you have a specific villa number in mind!
#1419
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 190
I'm looking to stay 10 days at the conrad maldives either in mid december or mid january. Mid December is much more convenient for my schedule but I'm worried about the rain. Weather data shows December has the most rainfall of any month which has me concerned. Has anyone been to the conrad in December? Is it as bad as summer months? I dont want to pay for high season rates to get the same rainy experience as July offers.
#1420
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
There was some discussion about this some tens of pages back. 10 nights will be fine so I really wouldn't worry about it. If you do want an opinion, I suggest you ask tom-schmitt as he stays there every December (late December through early January) and has so for the last 10 years so he would be the best one to give you a 'report'.
#1421
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MUC
Programs: LH Sen, HH Diamond, IC RA
Posts: 313
I suggest to go in mid January, as every
year the weather is getting worse, even end of December. Last year we had rain 3 out of 10 days, 2 years ago it rained 3 days in a row nearly nonstop after Christmas.
Weather always cleared up after New Year, if we could go later, we would start our holidays from January 1st.
Few years ago, we had much better weather during Christmas and New Years, season seems to be changing..
year the weather is getting worse, even end of December. Last year we had rain 3 out of 10 days, 2 years ago it rained 3 days in a row nearly nonstop after Christmas.
Weather always cleared up after New Year, if we could go later, we would start our holidays from January 1st.
Few years ago, we had much better weather during Christmas and New Years, season seems to be changing..
#1422
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 190
I suggest to go in mid January, as every
year the weather is getting worse, even end of December. Last year we had rain 3 out of 10 days, 2 years ago it rained 3 days in a row nearly nonstop after Christmas.
Weather always cleared up after New Year, if we could go later, we would start our holidays from January 1st.
Few years ago, we had much better weather during Christmas and New Years, season seems to be changing..
year the weather is getting worse, even end of December. Last year we had rain 3 out of 10 days, 2 years ago it rained 3 days in a row nearly nonstop after Christmas.
Weather always cleared up after New Year, if we could go later, we would start our holidays from January 1st.
Few years ago, we had much better weather during Christmas and New Years, season seems to be changing..
#1423
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 22
Given you have such good knowledge of the resort (and this would be my first time). I'm seeing a flight that lands at 11:55am should I go directly to the resort via seaplane or hang out at the airport hotel? While days are limited, if it is worth our while to take an extra day for holiday then I will do that
#1424
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
With a noon arrival you can expect to take
1. 30min to go through customs and get baggage
2. another 20-30min to do seaplane check-in and get to the Conrad Lounge. That's 1PM
3a. You could leave right away after arriving at the lounge but you should be prepared to expect to wait another 2 hours until departure (an almost worst case scenario) so a 3PM departure would be quite possible
3b. with a 4PM departure (worst case scenario) if things aren't going to schedule on that day for whatever reason
4a. Add another 30-45min for the seaplane ride (30min if direct, 45min if stopping at another resort on the way to drop off their pax) and then add another hour for the time difference which makes for a 4:30-4:45PM arrival
4b. and if you're delayed and have to wait for the extra hour mentioned above you'll be looking at a 5:30-5:45 arrival
So you're looking at an arrival of either
a) between 2:30-2:45PM for an immediate departure from the Conrad Lounge (remember that these happen more often in the early morning rather than in the afternoon)
b) between 3:30-3:45PM for a standard, 1hr wait until departure from the Conrad Lounge
c) between 4:30-4:45PM for a 2hr wait, i.e; an almost worst case scenario departure from the Conrad Lounge
d) between 5:30-5:45PM for a 3hr wait, i.e; a worst case scenario departure from the Conrad Lounge
I would be using 'c' above as a guide for my itinerary if I were planning a trip to Rangali.
Check-in formalities are usually completed at the Lounge if there is time. If not, it will take 30min for this and for the host to explain everything and take you to your room. If you were looking at a 4:30-:4:45PM arrival, you could expect to be able to start enjoying the place at 5PM or just after. That would mean you'd have about 2 1/2 hours of daylight left.
Now let's say you arrive at noon but decide not to go straight to Rangali and added an extra night onto your itinerary (pay attention here, @passionforhotels ), and you overnighted in Male and requested to be on the very first seaplane out the next morning, you'd expect to arrive at say 10AM Rangali time. This would mean around 6 or 7 hours more time at the resort than you would in the above scenario, i.e; a noon arrival into Male and either 'b' or 'c' (6 hours being scenario 'b' and 7 hours being scenario 'c'). If you wanted to know how much more time you'd be adding to your vacation in paradise; it's roughly 6%. Doesn't sound like much but when you arrive you'll start appreciating just how valuable every hour is there.
Remember that if you would spend 5 nights there and not add an extra night to overnight in Male, i.e; check in at 1 or 2AM on the first of your 5 nights, (again, @passionforhotels needs to pay extra attention here, ) you'd be losing 13% of your vacation time. Add the difference between the two and you will have spent around 15-16 hours more at the resort than someone who checks in after midnight. With a noon arrival, however, you'd be losing out but not quite as badly - somewhere in the middle of best and worst check-in times.
If you are able to get into Male a night early, by all means do so. You will not regret it. 5 nights will fly by way too quickly. That I can guarantee you! And if you can get a redeye out (say, after 9PM) then take that option too. As I have said before in this thread many times, arriving early and getting a late departure from Male will give you many more hours at the resort - in fact half a day on average - which you will appreciate and appreciate for a long time after you've gotten back home. The golden rule to maximize your time and enjoyment in the Maldives is to sacrifice a bit of convenience before and after, i.e; get there early and leave late. There aren't many places you can do this in the world so you might as well take advantage of it whenever you can.
That's the long answer to your question. The short answer is yes. Reason(s) being even with a noon arrival you are only going to have a bit of daylight and half the day will have been wasted. Arrive in Male at noon, go see the museum which others have suggested, have a traditional Maldivian dinner at one of the restaurants there, then get a good nights' sleep for a mere 100 bucks and arrive at the resort at the earlist possible time, not in the least bit tired because you'll be 100% refreshed (and you'll probably have enjoyed 2 breakfasts!) and be ready to enjoy what Rangali has to offer.....
1. 30min to go through customs and get baggage
2. another 20-30min to do seaplane check-in and get to the Conrad Lounge. That's 1PM
3a. You could leave right away after arriving at the lounge but you should be prepared to expect to wait another 2 hours until departure (an almost worst case scenario) so a 3PM departure would be quite possible
3b. with a 4PM departure (worst case scenario) if things aren't going to schedule on that day for whatever reason
4a. Add another 30-45min for the seaplane ride (30min if direct, 45min if stopping at another resort on the way to drop off their pax) and then add another hour for the time difference which makes for a 4:30-4:45PM arrival
4b. and if you're delayed and have to wait for the extra hour mentioned above you'll be looking at a 5:30-5:45 arrival
So you're looking at an arrival of either
a) between 2:30-2:45PM for an immediate departure from the Conrad Lounge (remember that these happen more often in the early morning rather than in the afternoon)
b) between 3:30-3:45PM for a standard, 1hr wait until departure from the Conrad Lounge
c) between 4:30-4:45PM for a 2hr wait, i.e; an almost worst case scenario departure from the Conrad Lounge
d) between 5:30-5:45PM for a 3hr wait, i.e; a worst case scenario departure from the Conrad Lounge
I would be using 'c' above as a guide for my itinerary if I were planning a trip to Rangali.
Check-in formalities are usually completed at the Lounge if there is time. If not, it will take 30min for this and for the host to explain everything and take you to your room. If you were looking at a 4:30-:4:45PM arrival, you could expect to be able to start enjoying the place at 5PM or just after. That would mean you'd have about 2 1/2 hours of daylight left.
Now let's say you arrive at noon but decide not to go straight to Rangali and added an extra night onto your itinerary (pay attention here, @passionforhotels ), and you overnighted in Male and requested to be on the very first seaplane out the next morning, you'd expect to arrive at say 10AM Rangali time. This would mean around 6 or 7 hours more time at the resort than you would in the above scenario, i.e; a noon arrival into Male and either 'b' or 'c' (6 hours being scenario 'b' and 7 hours being scenario 'c'). If you wanted to know how much more time you'd be adding to your vacation in paradise; it's roughly 6%. Doesn't sound like much but when you arrive you'll start appreciating just how valuable every hour is there.
Remember that if you would spend 5 nights there and not add an extra night to overnight in Male, i.e; check in at 1 or 2AM on the first of your 5 nights, (again, @passionforhotels needs to pay extra attention here, ) you'd be losing 13% of your vacation time. Add the difference between the two and you will have spent around 15-16 hours more at the resort than someone who checks in after midnight. With a noon arrival, however, you'd be losing out but not quite as badly - somewhere in the middle of best and worst check-in times.
If you are able to get into Male a night early, by all means do so. You will not regret it. 5 nights will fly by way too quickly. That I can guarantee you! And if you can get a redeye out (say, after 9PM) then take that option too. As I have said before in this thread many times, arriving early and getting a late departure from Male will give you many more hours at the resort - in fact half a day on average - which you will appreciate and appreciate for a long time after you've gotten back home. The golden rule to maximize your time and enjoyment in the Maldives is to sacrifice a bit of convenience before and after, i.e; get there early and leave late. There aren't many places you can do this in the world so you might as well take advantage of it whenever you can.
That's the long answer to your question. The short answer is yes. Reason(s) being even with a noon arrival you are only going to have a bit of daylight and half the day will have been wasted. Arrive in Male at noon, go see the museum which others have suggested, have a traditional Maldivian dinner at one of the restaurants there, then get a good nights' sleep for a mere 100 bucks and arrive at the resort at the earlist possible time, not in the least bit tired because you'll be 100% refreshed (and you'll probably have enjoyed 2 breakfasts!) and be ready to enjoy what Rangali has to offer.....
Last edited by MaldivesFreak; Aug 27, 2018 at 10:44 am Reason: Clarity
#1425
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 783
Thanks for the information Tom. We actually wont mind a few days of rain since it's beautiful to experience too. I just don't want to risk 7+ out of the 10 days its raining (which I've heard happens in the summer months). Right now we're reserved for dec 10th - 20th which has me concerned because I hear the beginning of december is much worse than the end.