Consolidated "Getting Walked (or denied a room) - Experiences & Questions" thread
#151
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: alpharetta, ga, usa
Posts: 67
Thanks for the point of comparison
Marriott's policy makes the various compensations that HHonors members have reported, look inadequate. Marriott's policy certainly recognizes the importance of this issue to the affected guest.
#152
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Originally Posted by bbbb
The bottom line is that 99% of the time the last guy to check-in will be the one walked. Because if he don't show up the hotel wins and does not have to pay for a walk.
Also, if the next-to-last person to check-in paid half the rate of the last person, and thus the hotel has to only eat half the rate, then what?
#153
Join Date: Jan 2003
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 119
I never realized that Marriott had such a great policy regarding if they have to walk one of their Platinums!
I'll be sure if this ever happens again to me as a Diamond to inform Hilton of this fact. I esp like the extra $200 and 2 free room certificates.
Now that would be make happy with their service.
I'll be sure if this ever happens again to me as a Diamond to inform Hilton of this fact. I esp like the extra $200 and 2 free room certificates.
Now that would be make happy with their service.
#154
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: North Aurora, IL
Posts: 92
Originally Posted by mazzer
What did they do to compensate you?
#155
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Programs: DL 1 MM/DM; HH Lifetime Diamond; Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 986
Walked as Diamond VIP
A couple of weeks ago, I had a confirmed two night stay reservation at the Hampton Inn Cleveland Airport location-that coincided with the NBA Finals taking place that week in town.
Upon arrival around midnight, I was told I was being walked next door to the Extended Stay America, as there were no rooms for me at the HI. I have never been walked before. Tired and irritated, After being given a letter to cover my two night stay, I went over to the ESA-who knew nothing of my supposed arranged stay at their hotel. In addition, the only rooms available were smoking (completely unacceptable).
I walked back over to the HI and complained bitterly. I was told by the desk manager that all the hotels in the area were booked. I called the Diamond VIP number and scrambled for a hotel room. After 30 minutes on the phone, I found a room at the HGI Cleveland downtown with rooms at $189/night (double what I would've paid at the HI). I was told by the HI desk manager that they would cover my two night stay as long as I bring the letter.
Checked in at the HGI around 1:30a, with an early morning appt a few hours later. (note that Game 4 was taking place that evening)
Later that evening when I arrived back the HGI, I was called by the front desk telling me that I would be responsible for the two night stay, despite the letter from HI.
I called the HI back and tried to get satisfaction. I was told by the desk manager that only one night's stay would be covered and that I was to return to the HI since they had rooms that night for the 2nd night. I was flabbergasted, since I was told nothing of this the night before-and also explained that it would have been my preference to return to the HI anyway since I had an early morning flight the next day. However, it was too late to check out of the HGI, so I was stuck.
Unfortunately for me, everyone who need to be involved in the decision regarding the situation were at the game.
So I wound up paying for the stay and having to deal with getting reimbursed afterward. The HI general manager offered to pay the first night stay, but would not cover both nights. He also offered a free 3 night stay at his hotel the next time I was in Cleveland (which is not anytime soon).
In any event, I was ticked to no end. Miscommunication was the operative word here. The HI should have notified me of the oversold situation, so I could have made arrangements for alternative lodging-instead of upon my arrival at their hotel. They didn't make any arrangements for my supposed stay at the ESA, despite the form letter that was given to me. In addition, they should have told me that I was to return to the HI for the 2nd night (which they didn't).
I was not very happy as to how I was treated at all. I wrote a letter to HHonors to voice my complaint. Anyone out there had a similar experience?
Upon arrival around midnight, I was told I was being walked next door to the Extended Stay America, as there were no rooms for me at the HI. I have never been walked before. Tired and irritated, After being given a letter to cover my two night stay, I went over to the ESA-who knew nothing of my supposed arranged stay at their hotel. In addition, the only rooms available were smoking (completely unacceptable).
I walked back over to the HI and complained bitterly. I was told by the desk manager that all the hotels in the area were booked. I called the Diamond VIP number and scrambled for a hotel room. After 30 minutes on the phone, I found a room at the HGI Cleveland downtown with rooms at $189/night (double what I would've paid at the HI). I was told by the HI desk manager that they would cover my two night stay as long as I bring the letter.
Checked in at the HGI around 1:30a, with an early morning appt a few hours later. (note that Game 4 was taking place that evening)
Later that evening when I arrived back the HGI, I was called by the front desk telling me that I would be responsible for the two night stay, despite the letter from HI.
I called the HI back and tried to get satisfaction. I was told by the desk manager that only one night's stay would be covered and that I was to return to the HI since they had rooms that night for the 2nd night. I was flabbergasted, since I was told nothing of this the night before-and also explained that it would have been my preference to return to the HI anyway since I had an early morning flight the next day. However, it was too late to check out of the HGI, so I was stuck.
Unfortunately for me, everyone who need to be involved in the decision regarding the situation were at the game.
So I wound up paying for the stay and having to deal with getting reimbursed afterward. The HI general manager offered to pay the first night stay, but would not cover both nights. He also offered a free 3 night stay at his hotel the next time I was in Cleveland (which is not anytime soon).
In any event, I was ticked to no end. Miscommunication was the operative word here. The HI should have notified me of the oversold situation, so I could have made arrangements for alternative lodging-instead of upon my arrival at their hotel. They didn't make any arrangements for my supposed stay at the ESA, despite the form letter that was given to me. In addition, they should have told me that I was to return to the HI for the 2nd night (which they didn't).
I was not very happy as to how I was treated at all. I wrote a letter to HHonors to voice my complaint. Anyone out there had a similar experience?
#156
Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: UAL 1K MM, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 871
Have you talked to the Diamond Desk? I can't believe they would find the HI manager's proposed soultions acceptable. Any good rep on the Diamond Desk should be able to get you a refund. Keep going until you get one. If they didn't tell you in time to return for the second night, the HI has no leg to stand on.
#157
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Programs: DL 1 MM/DM; HH Lifetime Diamond; Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 986
I haven't called the Diamond VIP desk, only because I wanted to have documentation-so, I sent an email last week to the HH Guest Assistance Team voice my complaint. After a week, I have yet to get even a form letter response from them.
Have you talked to the Diamond Desk? I can't believe they would find the HI manager's proposed soultions acceptable. Any good rep on the Diamond Desk should be able to get you a refund. Keep going until you get one. If they didn't tell you in time to return for the second night, the HI has no leg to stand on.
#158
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,905
You really, really need to talk to the Diamond Desk. HH assistance doesn't have the unilateral decision-making power as the DD. Now that you have you're documentation, call the DD and offer to fax them everything they need. Don't stop until you're fully reimbursed for this unexusable behavior by the HI - then demand saitsfaction in the form of HH point compensation - this is at least worth 10,000-20,000 points (my opinion), then call the HI back and take the 3-night cert from them (might as well not let that go, just demand a "no-expiration cert").
#159
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Programs: DL 1 MM/DM; HH Lifetime Diamond; Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 986
I just called the Diamond VIP desk and spoke with Guest Asssistance. I forwarded my email documentation, and they are now looking into the situation. I was assured that I would be hearing something soon on this...
I will keep y'all updated....
I will keep y'all updated....
#160
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,530
The DD does not have a magic wand
The DD can help will all aspects of reservations (incl scarce ones) and all aspects of the HH program, incl benefits, rewards and administration. They cannot help with the type of customer service issue raised by the OP, especially in the case of a franchised property.
The best approach is to lean on the people at Hilton Customer care, who, according to my experience, know how to look after Diamond members.
The ultimate arbiter in the type of dispute reaised by the OP is Hotel management. All that Customer Care can do is to monitor the dispute and try and sooth the waters if the Hotel mangement does not offer a satisfactory outcome.
The OP recieved very shabby treatment which should be made right
#161
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: IAD
Programs: United 0, HH Gold
Posts: 2,827
I cannot agree more with the basic fact that you must call the Diamond Desk. In fact, you say you called the DD during this fiasco... but only to find another room in town, right? I could be wrong, but had you explained the situation to the DD, they would have offered to speak to the manager of the HI and resolve the situation.... that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck in getting this solved!
Good luck in getting this solved!
#162
Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: UAL 1K MM, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 871
I am jumping in here because I believe that it is important for us all to understand what the DD can and cannot do.
The DD can help will all aspects of reservations (incl scarce ones) and all aspects of the HH program, incl benefits, rewards and administration. They cannot help with the type of customer service issue raised by the OP, especially in the case of a franchised property.
The best approach is to lean on the people at Hilton Customer care, who, according to my experience, know how to look after Diamond members.
The ultimate arbiter in the type of dispute reaised by the OP is Hotel management. All that Customer Care can do is to monitor the dispute and try and sooth the waters if the Hotel mangement does not offer a satisfactory outcome.
The OP recieved very shabby treatment which should be made right
The DD can help will all aspects of reservations (incl scarce ones) and all aspects of the HH program, incl benefits, rewards and administration. They cannot help with the type of customer service issue raised by the OP, especially in the case of a franchised property.
The best approach is to lean on the people at Hilton Customer care, who, according to my experience, know how to look after Diamond members.
The ultimate arbiter in the type of dispute reaised by the OP is Hotel management. All that Customer Care can do is to monitor the dispute and try and sooth the waters if the Hotel mangement does not offer a satisfactory outcome.
The OP recieved very shabby treatment which should be made right
#163
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,872
#165
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Programs: DL 1 MM/DM; HH Lifetime Diamond; Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 986
All this took place after midnight upon my arrival. After my unacceptable (non)accommodations at the ESA, my priority in my exhausted state was to find a room. Had it been earlier in the evening and I were not tired, I would've tried to use the DD to arbitrate for me. In reality, little (if anything) can be done after hours.
The HI night manager seems to have limited options at his/her disposal at night without first talking first and getting approval from the general manager of the property as well as the accounting manager of the property-all of whom are involved in making a decision such as the one required in my situation. I learned this personally as I was on the phone for several hours with the HI night manager on the last night of my stay (during Game 4 of the NBA Finals (when both the GM and the AM were unreachable and likely at the game). The HI night manager I spoke to that night could not make a unilateral decision in this matter.
The HI night manager seems to have limited options at his/her disposal at night without first talking first and getting approval from the general manager of the property as well as the accounting manager of the property-all of whom are involved in making a decision such as the one required in my situation. I learned this personally as I was on the phone for several hours with the HI night manager on the last night of my stay (during Game 4 of the NBA Finals (when both the GM and the AM were unreachable and likely at the game). The HI night manager I spoke to that night could not make a unilateral decision in this matter.
I cannot agree more with the basic fact that you must call the Diamond Desk. In fact, you say you called the DD during this fiasco... but only to find another room in town, right? I could be wrong, but had you explained the situation to the DD, they would have offered to speak to the manager of the HI and resolve the situation.... that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck in getting this solved!
Good luck in getting this solved!