Consolidated "Getting Walked (or denied a room) - Experiences & Questions" thread
#226
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Please...
They have no idea if you're showing up or not...as the mutual fund industry makes very clear: past results do not indicate future returns!
#227
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The key is that the free night that you got at the Marriott doesn't really do much for you - as you say that you are staying on the client's dime. I am sure that THEY appreciate that you were inconvenienced and got them a free room night! However, since you were the one inconvenienced, there should be something in it for you. Since you are happy with the compensation received, I am surely not going to thread crap - but, I would be much happier with the $200 cash (you could buy your own bottle of wine!) and two free night certs over the 5k bonus points.
Kudos to the GM/manager in charge who handled your situation flawlessly. Hilton should have that guy give a seminar!
#228
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If I was working at the hotel, I would have walked you too at 3 am. What hotel wouldn't walk you at 3 am, despite being a repeat VIP customer...they haven't received a phone call from you, and the hotel is sold out.
They have no idea if you're showing up or not...as the mutual fund industry makes very clear: past results do not indicate future returns!
They have no idea if you're showing up or not...as the mutual fund industry makes very clear: past results do not indicate future returns!
This is one of the DUMBEST responses.
Guess thats why I stay at marriott's....get $200 CASH in my pocket. Go to the MR forum and see how many people say "you shouldve called" on a reservation. Hilton is really going to the ma/pa kettles!
#229
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If I was working at the hotel, I would have walked you too at 3 am. What hotel wouldn't walk you at 3 am, despite being a repeat VIP customer...they haven't received a phone call from you, and the hotel is sold out.
They have no idea if you're showing up or not...as the mutual fund industry makes very clear: past results do not indicate future returns!
They have no idea if you're showing up or not...as the mutual fund industry makes very clear: past results do not indicate future returns!
#230
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It is my understanding that Diamonds with a guaranteed room are not supposed to be walked. Period. End of Discussion. The hotel is supposed to consider those rooms as "sold", keeping the deposit money for the night in case of a no-show Diamond.
#231
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If the room is guaranteed by credit card then the room is to be held regardless of the time of arrival. If I am a no-show then I am charged for the room. The clerk, probably the bean counter, failed in his or her responsibility by not keeping the room and charging for it if the guest did not show.
#232
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Absolutely yes. If you book a flexible rate at a Hilton in Europe (ie on hilton.com) you quite often see the option to make the reservation without a credit card guarantee, however you need to check-in by 4pm (or 6pm?), otherwise they will cancel the reservation (without penalty).
Last edited by ACflyerDE; Oct 21, 2007 at 10:28 pm
#233
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Absolutely yes. If you book a flexible rate at a Hilton in Europe (ie on hilton.com) you quite often see the option to make the reservation without a credit card guarantee, however you need to check-in by 4pm (or 6pm?), otherwise they will cancel the reservation (without penalty).
#234
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Agreed. I wish all hotels had staff who took a similar attitude to resolving customer problems!! It's probably worth writing a letter of praise to his bosses!
#235
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May I suggest that your good attitude helped in this situation
I worked in the hotel biz for over 20 years, and the incentive to please an inconvenienced guest that is understanding is so much more than if the guest is confrontational.
Not fair, but true.
You admit that even though you were delayed well past your normal midnight check-in, a call would likely have protected your room.
Congrats your great attitude and on a great end to the situation.
#236
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Sorry starflyer, my post wasn't very clear. What I was trying to say was that they gave my room away at 2:00 a.m. to someone else. I assume (you know how that goes) that this was someone who was not diamond, and that the hotel gave them "my" room even though I had a reservation and knowing that I was a habitually late-arriving diamond.
I've stayed in ES for four or five months at a time, leaving every Friday and returning on Sunday but every once in a while (connecting in winter via ORD) I get a delay and come in after midnight or for a holiday weekend I switch my flights and return either Monday or Tuesday night. Without calling the hotel, they have no way of knowing that I am coming back late if I don't show up "on time." The hotel is in business to make money so they should give the room to the paying customer at the counter...
Luckily i've never been bump but I have lost my early check in room assignment on many occasion...
#238
Join Date: Oct 2007
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How do you know that the person behind the desk knew 100% that you were coming in?
I've stayed in ES for four or five months at a time, leaving every Friday and returning on Sunday but every once in a while (connecting in winter via ORD) I get a delay and come in after midnight or for a holiday weekend I switch my flights and return either Monday or Tuesday night. Without calling the hotel, they have no way of knowing that I am coming back late if I don't show up "on time." The hotel is in business to make money so they should give the room to the paying customer at the counter...
Luckily i've never been bump but I have lost my early check in room assignment on many occasion...
I've stayed in ES for four or five months at a time, leaving every Friday and returning on Sunday but every once in a while (connecting in winter via ORD) I get a delay and come in after midnight or for a holiday weekend I switch my flights and return either Monday or Tuesday night. Without calling the hotel, they have no way of knowing that I am coming back late if I don't show up "on time." The hotel is in business to make money so they should give the room to the paying customer at the counter...
Luckily i've never been bump but I have lost my early check in room assignment on many occasion...
I don't hold any ill will towards the hotel, the staff of Hilton. I think they handled the situation admirably and will continue to give them all of my business.
#239
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#240
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Also, people who frequently check-in late, every week at the same hotel, are more likely than others to know the front-desk personnel. I used to check-in at the Seattle Renaissance every Tuesday night at about 11PM. Usually same front-desk clerk. Always same bartender. They got to know me... So I don't think it's unrealistic for the front-desk manager on the late shift to say "This Austin guy checking in tonight always shows up after midnight - does it every week. He's a Diamond who's been here for 3 months. Don't give his room away."