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Please check me on this, but I believe that the site is back up and running for new applications as of 4:00 p.m. Paris time today, Nov. 1, 2021.

As for the IBTL translation, I'd go with, "J'ai échappé belle," but others will no doubt have more creative suggestions.

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Originally Posted by FallenPlat (Post 33692219)

Please check me on this, but I believe that the site is back up and running for new applications as of 4:00 p.m. Paris time today, Nov. 1, 2021.

FWIW I still get the "This procedure has been closed, it is no longer possible to submit a file" message from the link I posted above, but perhaps there is a new path to access it?

It would be nice if it turned out to be a temporary hiatus while they caught up on backlog or something.

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Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 33692232)

I’m still getting this message as well. Will try again later today.

You both may be right. Although I don't get the red message anymore, I also can't add a file now that the two I submitted are both in the "accepted" category. They're definitely tinkering behind the scenes somehow.

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Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 33686411)

I wonder what percentage of requests were from FlyerTalk members. :D

Probably substantial - but FT isn't the only website or online forum where this is discussed. ;)

It looks like France has reverted back to / made official the conversion of foreign* vaccination certificates to the pass sanitaire by pharmacies, in lieu of the online procedure. (*foreign meaning non-EU compatible certificates)

From the TousAntiCOVID app news section (which I had to type out by hand because I can't find this yet anywhere else...)

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Les ressortissants de pays tiers de l’UE pourront dorénavant se présenter en pharmacie pour obtenir une attestation d’équivalence vaccinale faisant valoir une vaccination réalisée en dehors de l’UE, sous réserve que le schéma vaccinal soit conforme aux exigences françaises.

Jusqu’à présent, les voyageurs de pays tiers vaccinés hors Union européenne qui voulaient bénéficier du pass sanitaire en France pouvaient faire une demande en ligne auprès du ministère de l’Europe et des Affaires étrangères.

Dorénavant, une personne bénéficiant d’un schéma vaccinal complet reconnu en France (comme défini dans le lien ci-dessous) [my note: I can't get the link to load, so can't provide here] peut solliciter un pharmacien afin d’obtenir un pass sanitaire. Celui-ci pourra alors contrôler le certificat de vaccination grâce à un catalogue établi par le ministère, puis s’assurer de son authenticité et de sa validité. Après ce contrôle, il pourra convertir le certificat de vaccination au format “certificat COVID numérique de l’UE” dans le cadre du pass sanitaire. La personne pourra ainsi utiliser son pass sanitaire sur le territoire national, mais aussi dans les pays raccordés au système européen du certificat COVID numérique de l’UE.

Via Google Translate:

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Nationals from third countries of the EU will now be able to go to a pharmacy to obtain a certificate of vaccine equivalence proving a vaccination carried out outside the EU, provided that the vaccination schedule complies with French requirements.

Until now, travelers from third countries vaccinated outside the European Union who wanted to benefit from the health pass in France could apply online to the Ministry of Europe and Foreign Affairs.

From now on, a person benefiting from a complete vaccination schedule recognized in France (as defined in the link below) can request a pharmacist in order to obtain a health pass. The latter will then be able to check the vaccination certificate using a catalog drawn up by the ministry, then ensure its authenticity and validity. After this check, he can convert the vaccination certificate to the “EU digital COVID certificate” format as part of the health pass. The person will thus be able to use their health pass on national territory, but also in countries connected to the European system of the EU's digital COVID certificate.

This appears to be the legislation as published which formalizes this procedure. Note that it mentions that a pharmacy may charge up to €30 for this procedure.

Based on what a French pharmacy-industry website says, this initial roll-out would seem to be for a 15-day "beta" trial period before a general release: "Dans ce cadre, la Direction générale de la santé propose une expérimentation d’une durée de 15 jours avant de la généraliser." The piece goes on to say no robots or direct platform links allowed. (Is that a swipe at us here?) The site is Ordre National des Pharmaciens. Pharmacists have to email their desire to sign up. I'm not sure what that means except that I wouldn't exactly count on having lots of pharmacies participate, at least for this first phase.

If I really understood French bureaucracy, I'd be a lot smarter than I am. Maybe things will no become clearer over the next couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by FallenPlat (Post 33695691)

If I really understood French bureaucracy,

As someone who has been trying to open a bank account in Paris I say understanding French bureaucracy is not possible!

Connection at CDG en route to NCE

Will they require the pass for a flight to NCE? We’ll be flying from DTW to NCE with a 4+ hour layover at CDG. Would anyone advise getting a test done at CDG so we can board our connecting flight to NCE? Or will they accept a test taken in the US?

Connection at CDG en route to NCE

Will they require the pass for a flight to NCE?We’ll be flying from DTW to NCE with a 4+ hour layover at CDG. Would anyone advise getting a test done at CDG so we can board our connecting flight to NCE? Or will they accept a test taken in the US?

Applications for France’s digital health pass are temporarily closed

As of Nov. 2, the application process for Americans wishing to obtain the French health pass has closed. Upon arrival to France, travelers are advised to take a negative antigen or PCR test to secure a 72-hour pass.
Since announcing the French health pass also known as the “pass sanitaire,” the method for obtaining the pass has changed four times — the latest of which has resulted in temporarily barring Americans from fulfilling the necessary vaccination requirement to go virtually anywhere indoors in France through at least July 2022.

Ugh, we have plans for next summer that we need to commit to soon. Hopefully, this will be cleared up soon.

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Originally Posted by Paul24k (Post 33695799)

Will they require the pass for a flight to NCE?We’ll be flying from DTW to NCE with a 4+ hour layover at CDG. Would anyone advise getting a test done at CDG so we can board our connecting flight to NCE? Or will they accept a test taken in the US?

I can offer a datapoint When Ms SWMBO Stanbury did something similar -- her connection was off AC YYZ-CDG onto AF CDG-MPL , there was no issue with AF accepting her Canadian Provincially-issued certificate showing her 2 vaccinations with the type and dates. These were separate tickets. Her certificate was in French, but I am not sure that made a lot of difference.

The AF site says

Le pass sanitaire est la preuve, au format papier ou numérique que vous êtes vacciné, guéri ou testé négatif au Covid-19.

Selon votre situation, cette preuve peut être :

Un certificat de vaccination complet datant d'au moins 7 jours pour les vaccins Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca/Covishield, R-Pharm ou Fiocruz, et d'au moins 28 jours pour le vaccin Janssen;
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Le résultat d'un test Covid-19 négatif de moins de 72 heures (RT-PCR, antigénique);
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Le résultat d'un test RT-PCR ou antigénique positif au Covid-19, datant d'au moins 11 jours et de moins de 6 mois.

Of which the English version is

The health pass refers to a paper or digital proof that you have been vaccinated, tested negative to or recovered from Covid-19.

Depending on your situation, this proof can consist of:

A vaccination cetificate dated at least 7 days prior to travel for the Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca/Covidshield, R-Pharm or Fiocruz vaccines; and at least 28 days for the Janssen vaccine
OR
A negative Covid-19 test result (RT-PCR, antigenic ) taken less than 72 hours prior to your flight
OR
A positive Covid-19 RT-PCR or antigenic test result dated at least 11 days and no more than 6 months prior to travel attesting to your recovery

Again this is just one data point but I believe the answer is yes. Others may also have experience to offer.

So just to triple confirm - If I am an American and have a Pass Sanitaire that was processed a few weeks ago - the pass will remain valid for my upcoming trip?

Passes don't expire. Your pass is valid forever. Or until there's a booster requirement or something else happens, whichever comes first.

And to save people from clicking on the above like to The Points Guy, they don't even know as much as I do, which is precious little (see my prior post above). Worse still, there is absolutely nothing to indicate that this closure is "temporary." TPG literally made that up. We can all hope that it's temporary but, based on what I've seen, it's likely to be permanent. Plus, TPG is apparently unaware that, for now, a CDC card works just fine. There's no need for any other workaround.

So, to be clear, this thread has better and more up-to-date information than TPG -- by a wide margin.

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Originally Posted by Paul24k (Post 33695796)

No need for a test. Your CDC card is enough.

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Originally Posted by realworld (Post 33696471)

Ugh, we have plans for next summer that we need to commit to soon. Hopefully, this will be cleared up soon.

There is certainly no need to wait for anything linked to this to confirm a trip next summer. Between now and then, it will change 10 times and hopefully, we can even dream that there will be no need anymore for such a pass next summer.

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Originally Posted by louisc (Post 33696516)

So just to triple confirm - If I am an American and have a Pass Sanitaire that was processed a few weeks ago - the pass will remain valid for my upcoming trip?

Yes it is.