Expansion of the pass vaccinal
 

So, it’s official, President Macron announced today that the pass sanitaire (tousantiCovid app) will be required to enter a lot more places starting August. This includes Cafés and restaurants, movie theatres, malls, trains and planes.

As of right now, foreigners (or even French citizens) vaccinated abroad cannot import their vaccine certificate into the app as it cannot be verified. Yet, it is totally fine and accepted when entering the country at the border controls. Being fully vaccinated in Canada and Dual citizen (FR/CA), I hope they find a solution soon. Tons of French citizens living abroad and tourists will be seriously impacted if nothing is implemented very soon.

Why can’t they stamp our certification upon entry (similar to the stamp in the passport) or issue a QR code once eligibility is verified at entry to import into the app? If the status is good enough for entry into the country, it should remain good enough for the rest of your trip.

Hope announcements are made in the coming days.

Agreed... I was supposed to fly to France Wednesday morning for a month as a tourist, and now I'm not sure what to do. I can't get a vaccine passport as a foreigner, and I'm not sure if I want to risk being told I'm not allowed to eat for the two weeks of August preceding my flight home!

You can always get tested for 48 hours to import that QR code into the app. But that will be costly. The new measures are expected in August (no date given, so might be able to avoid it for most of your stay if they implement it later in the month)

I’m going for 11 days in September, so hopefully a solution is found by then. Worse case, I’ll get tested regularly at 29€ for the antigen rapid test valid for 48 hrs.

I would not worry at all. Everything will be fine. Either your cdc card will be accepted like at the border or they will find an electronic way to do it. Let's wait a few days to know more about the practical implementation.

A pretty worrying development given the possible implications.

Might be taking the voucher for my flights to Paris, pending clarification.
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I hope so! A few days is all I have to make the call, since I'm departing from LAX to CDG at 10:30 AM 7/14. That should mean I'd miss the worst of the implementation (since the restaurant/train/shopping aspect of it doesn't start until sometime in August), but still...the prospect of staying home and saving 150,000+ miles plus a few thousand $$ is getting somewhat appealing.

I’ve been following it for a while. The pass sanitaire has been in use since June. To use it, you need to enter one of 3 things:
1. Load your vaccine info
2. Get tested locally, obtain a QR code and scan it to add to app (valid for 48hrs)
3. Provide proof of prior infection (and possibly load a code for that as well (or tied to Ameli.fr as well)

Option 1 would apply to foreign vaccinated tourists, but the app doesn’t currently allow you to scan or import a foreign vaccine passport or proof of vaccination from abroad. This has been confirmed in the Ameli.fr forum.

Sources:
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...er-travel-home
https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-cor...pass-sanitaire

Those links are not confidence inspiring. If the French government hasn't lifted a finger to help expat French citizens get their pass sanitaire, then it's not likely they'll do anything for foreign tourists. Sigh. I guess I'll make my decision about cancellation in the morning, but it's looking increasingly grim.

I am pretty confident that people from the USA will be able to show their vaccination cards in lieu of the passe sanitaire for entering restaurants, shopping malls, etc, or the government will set up some sort of "Tous Anti Covid Tourisme" app for people vaccinated outside of the EU (but with EU-approved vaccines).

This was just announced last night - I'd wait for a bit before cancelling.

I thought I read somewhere that it will begin 21 July for museums, cinemas, theaters etc. and then August for restaurants, cafes etc. I am sure museums will accept a paper vaccination card in lieu of the Tous Anticovid digital pass, but I would prefer not to carry my vaccination card with me all the time. If a photo works, then it's fine.

But I agree, if the paper vaccination card is valid for entry into France, they should make it easy for people to use a temporary? QR code for a visitor or a French citizen returning/visiting France.

another dual citizen here
 

I am in a similar boat (FR/US), I have not been able to find a way to upload my CDC card & get the French QR code. I was in France last month, no issue, so I can wait a few months before my next trip.

Olivier Véran, the French health minister, clearly stated today that the issue of people having been vaccinated abroad (including tourists) will have been solved by the time these measures take effect:


I'm in the same situation as y'all, so fingers crossed.

I don't speak French very well, so maybe someone else can check this but...I believe he's talking about French citizens vaccinated abroad while they were tourists. =(

This is the google translate version of the text. It seems like he's specifically referring to citizens who were vaccinated while living abroad and want to return to metropolitan France.

"For French people living abroad, tell you that by the time the law is promulgated, that you will soon have the opportunity to vote. We will have solved this problem and all French people living abroad, but also tourists vaccinated with a complete vaccination schedule, returning to the national territory will have an equivalence when they justify it, and will be able to circulate like the other citizens on the national territory. "

French Text:

"Pour les Français de l'étranger, vous dire que d'ici à la promulgation de la loi, que vous aurez bientôt l'occasion de voter. Nous aurons solutionné ce problème et l'ensemble des Français de l'étranger, mais également des touristes vaccinés avec un schéma vaccinal complet, revenant sur le territoire national auront une équivalence lorsqu'ils le justifient, et pourront circuler comme les autres citoyens sur le territoire national."

It should be relatively easy (from a technological perspective) to make foreigners able to use whatever method they develop. Considering France only opened up to Americans a couple of months ago, it would be pretty dumb to NOT have some way for them to use this.

I very much agree! My fears are largely molded by my experience as part of the Novavax clinical trial, which ran in the US and the UK. The UK volunteers were specifically told by everyone from Boris Johnson on down that they wouldn't be penalized or disadvantaged in any way for their service. In March, any UK participant who was in the placebo group was given the real vaccine, so they're all 100% vaccinated.

The trouble is...none of them can prove it. All they have is letters Novavax gave them stating that they're fully vaccinated and shouldn't be discriminated against. And they have a lot of empty promises from the NHS and their app developers saying that they know there's a problem, and they're working on it. It'll be fixed in a few more weeks. They've been told it'll be fixed in a few more weeks since April, and of course...it hasn't been fixed! This means that UK Novavax trial participants have had to cancel vacations, flights, cruises, etc... because the NHS app doesn't show that they're vaccinated.

So that shapes my fears. How hard could it be to fix the NHS app so it shows that people who were vaccinated, are vaccinated? How hard could it be to make good on all those promises of non-discrimination against trial volunteers, considering they were made by everyone from the PM on down? Well...every morning my Facebook feed has 3-5 new threads started by UK participants hoping that the app finally shows them as vaccinated. It hasn't happened yet!