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alex67500 Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 33428723)
Arpège says vaccination certificate or negative tests may be considered "pass sanitaire"...

I think what is missing here is "complete with a QR code which can be verified through the app provided by the French government".

downinit Jul 22, 2021 12:42 pm

I managed to get a vaccination Pass Sanitaire today with my CDC card near Marne-la-Vallée. The pharmacist was initially hesitant and did not think it would work, but we somehow managed to convince her to try. She said the system has been very buggy lately and was surprised that she was able to get into the correct screen for foreigners. We were her first successful passes for someone vaccinated abroad. Quite relieved now, as we plan to visit a handful of other countries before heading home.

lobo411 Jul 22, 2021 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by untamed (Post 33427241)
Is the worst case that you can get the pass if you are willing to take a test every 48 hours?

If you have to test every 48 hrs, there's an elevated chance of a false positive. It's like how if you play Russian Roulette once, you have a 1:6 probability of being shot. If you play Russian Roulette 10 times, you have a...damn I wish I was better at figuring probability! But it's higher. =)

Anyway this could lead to a 10 day quarantine at your expense. For me, that would be the real "worst case."

lobo411 Jul 22, 2021 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by exp (Post 33426927)
Maybe skipping museums during a pandemic wouldn't be the worst thing.

And when I was there in the last week of June, t here were a lot of people on the streets.

I was in Paris a couple of summers ago during a canicule (I think it was over 100 degrees F every day I was there). In that situation, I would take the risk of covid just to get out of the hot sun and into some a/c!

Landing Gear Jul 22, 2021 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by wysiwyg (Post 33426233)
An article from French newspaper « Libération », but in French (sorry anglophones)

https://t.co/ieGQ7JwqZJ

Je crois que les anglophones peuvent utiliser le Google Translate. :)

English translation of the linked news article.

Landing Gear Jul 22, 2021 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by aleksir (Post 33426733)
I was able to gleen this as the process to get a QR code based on a US vaccination record. Not tested, but more than I've seen before:

RECOGNITION OF COVID VACCINATION MADE ABROAD AND OBTAINING A QR CODE
Vaccinations carried out as part of the French vaccination campaign, in France or abroad, must be recorded by the healthcare professional in Covid vaccine ( Ameli).
Vaccinations performed outside this framework but with a vaccine authorized in France can also be recorded in the Covid Vaccine platform, only by an authorized healthcare professional (doctor, pharmacist, nurse, midwife and dental surgeon).
Source: https://tousanticovid.stonly.com

Process to follow :

1. Vaccine
a. Enter the name of the vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna…)
b. In the box next to it (“origin of the lot”) TYPE 'Other'
c. CLICK on the option 'Other Lot'
d. Enter the number of the foreign lot in the concomitant box.

2. Vaccination center
a. TYPE 'Other' in the corresponding box.
=> It is very important to type 'Other…' in both boxes, otherwise it will not work.
b. Postal code: enter 99, which then allows you to select the country.
vs. For the United States, enter 99063.

Follow the same sequence for a second dose, when applicable.
The sheet with the QR Code appears and can be printed.
I hope someone can try it and it works as we're due to arrive August 19.


Do you happen to have a link to the original French page lest the pharmacist think this one louche?

Landing Gear Jul 22, 2021 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by mk712 (Post 33428099)
The French Secretary of State said yesterday that they will soon be opening a service at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs where French nationals having been vaccinated abroad will be able to send their proof of vaccination, have it be authenticated and then be provided a French QR code that can be imported into the app:


I wonder what he means by "send" and how far in advance it will need to be done.

alex67500 Jul 23, 2021 3:38 am


Originally Posted by Landing Gear (Post 33430003)
I wonder what he means by "send" and how far in advance it will need to be done.

The tweet above said the minister was going to have a call with pharmacies today. Hopefully that is part of the call and they can do it...

Diego37921 Jul 23, 2021 5:55 am

Has anyone been able to get a QR code pass sanitaire in Paris? If so, can you give information on the pharmacy or establishment where you were able to get it done?
Thank you

wysiwyg Jul 23, 2021 6:18 am


Originally Posted by alex67500 (Post 33430774)
The tweet above said the minister was going to have a call with pharmacies today. Hopefully that is part of the call and they can do it...

In the video, he’s making a reference to the French citizens living abroad continuing to obtain free COVID testing in pharmacies (and elsewhere). Since July 7, non-residents and tourists had to start paying for them (€29 Antigen or €49 for PCR) but the FDE (Français de l’étranger) are entitled to receive them for free.

p.s. In the France 2 evening (20H) newscast yesterday, they had a small segment on someone who was vaccinated abroad but no QR code for the pass sanitaire and he was trying to go into movie theatres. He was declined. They said that they have strict guidelines to just accept the Pass sanitaire QR code. They explained how difficult it was for those fully vaccinated, but without the pass, to get into places that now require it. It was aimed at French expats, but nice to see the mainstream media is starting to pay more attention to this.

Edit: found the link. Hope it works! https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/ma...s_4712577.html

Seph87 Jul 23, 2021 7:35 am


Originally Posted by lobo411 (Post 33429792)
If you have to test every 48 hrs, there's an elevated chance of a false positive. It's like how if you play Russian Roulette once, you have a 1:6 probability of being shot. If you play Russian Roulette 10 times, you have a...damn I wish I was better at figuring probability! But it's higher. =)

Anyway this could lead to a 10 day quarantine at your expense. For me, that would be the real "worst case."

While this is technically true, it's important to note that false positives are exceedingly rare with the rapid antigen tests. Somewhere on the order of 1/1,000 to 1/10,000 based on most tests I've looked at. False negatives on the other hand are much more common, something like 20-30% depending on the test.

This is because most rapid tests are designed to favor specificity over sensitivity, the logic being you want to be absolutely sure that someone is actually positive before forcing them to quarantine. And even then most positive results from a rapid test will be confirmed by a PCR test before forcing you into quarantine.

So over the course of a two week vacation, you'd be taking seven tests, which ups your chances of a false positive from 0.1% to roughly 0.7% using the worst-case numbers. That's less than one in a hundred. I guess it depends on each individual's risk tolerance, but for me I'd be fine taking that gamble if the alternative was not going on my trip.

scubadu Jul 23, 2021 7:39 am

We were thinking about heading to France soon, but wow... this just seems like a hot steaming mess... :(

Regards

wysiwyg Jul 23, 2021 8:44 am


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 33431105)
We were thinking about heading to France soon, but wow... this just seems like a hot steaming mess... :(

Regards

I feel what they are doing is the right thing. All countries need to make life difficult for the non vaccinated in order to encourage them to get the shot. But before putting this into place, they should have defined how their tourists and non residents can utilize the pass as well. Anyhow, more will be known by the end of the weekend as they iron out all the details ahead of passing this into law.

nomiiiii Jul 23, 2021 9:31 am


Originally Posted by wysiwyg (Post 33431278)
I feel what they are doing is the right thing. All countries need to make life difficult for the non vaccinated in order to encourage them to get the shot. But before putting this into place, they should have defined how their tourists and non residents can utilize the pass as well. Anyhow, more will be known by the end of the weekend as they iron out all the details ahead of passing this into law.

They're making life difficult for the vaccinated. Those vaccinated abroad

FallenPlat Jul 23, 2021 9:40 am

The TV news segment linked above is ONLY about expatriate French citizens vaccinated abroad. The two examples shown are, first, a Hong Kong resident vaccinated with Pfizer (and with a mostly Chinese print-out of some sort) and, second, a man vaccinated with Sputnik (and with a standard WHO yellow vaccine booklet). For them, no go. Also, the only instance of rejection shown is a local movie theater. No museum, no Eiffel Tower, no Disney. And also no mention of tourists. No mention of CDC cards either. Frankly, and to be blunt, I'm not impressed.

On the flip side, the Liberation story linked not once but twice above still flatly states, with Quai d'Orsay sources, that tourists without access to the Passe will be accommodated. Somehow most of the posts on this thread seem to pretend that this story didn't exist but, really, I think it's very, very important.

We'll have to see, of course, but I've already stated my opinion: I wouldn't cancel anything. Obviously, I'm an optimist.


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