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Old Oct 12, 2021, 11:18 am
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NOTE: The French government website for applying for a Pass Sanitaire is no longer functional. The information in the Wiki therefore no longer applies. Current advice is to go to a French pharmacy to get your CDC vaccination card converted to a Pass Sanitaire, and in the process be relieved of 36 Euros you didn't really need anyway.

What is a Pass Sanitaire and why would I want one?

The Pass Sanitaire is France's version of the EU Digital Covid Certificate. The Certificate is an electronic pass that shows either that the bearer has been vaccinated against Covid-19 or that the bearer has recently tested negative for Covid-19. It can be used to enter restaurants, lodgings, entertainment venues, museums, public transit, etc. Because it uses the EU standard, holders of the Pass Sanitaire can use it for these purposes all over Europe and in some non-EU countries (see the link above for details).

I'm vaccinated but not a French citizen or a citizen of a country that issues EU Digital Covid Certificates. Can I get a Pass Sanitaire showing I've been vaccinated?
Yes, if you have a travel ticket to France. See details below.

Do I really need a Pass Sanitaire? Can't I just show my American CDC vaccination record or my country's equivalent?
There are many reports of people being able to use their CDC record to enter restaurants, museums etc in France and other parts of Europe, especially in heavily touristed areas. However, there are a few reports of the CDC card being refused. As of this writing, some EU countries have requirements that those who have not been vaccinated must get tested for Covid-19 and show evidence of a recent test in order to enter restaurants etc. If a venue refuses to recognize your foreign certificate, in order to enter you would have to get a Covid test which would be valid for 2 to 3 days.

How do I get a Pass Sanitaire?
1. Go to this website and set up an account.
2. Answer the questions regarding your name, "foreign" address (that is, foreign to France - in other words, your home address outside of France), birth date, travel dates to France, and vaccination details. Upload the required documents, making sure the files are not too big (keep them under a few hundred kb). PDF files work fine. You will need images of:
-your passport
-your travel ticket showing dates of entry and exit from France
-your vaccination record
3. For the very last field ("fait a" - completed at), enter the date, time, and your location
4. Do NOT submit the application yet! See the next section, "When should I submit my application?"

When should I submit my application?
If you submit your application outside of the hours of 6 am to about noon Paris time, most likely your application will sit for weeks before it is reviewed. However, many people have had their applications approved almost instantaneously by submitting between 6 am and noon (12 am to 6 am Eastern time). If your application does not move to review within about 5 minutes after you submit it, simply start a new application and submit that one.

How do I start a new application? Do I need to use a new email address? And how do I submit an additional application for someone else, like a family member?
After you submit your application, click on "Dossiers" on the top of the page. Next to each application you've submitted, there is a link labelled "Actions". Click that and select the option to add a new application. The system will ask you to verify that you really want to do that rather than go to the existing application. Fill out the additional application as described above and submit it. You can use this process to either re-submit an existing application or submit an application for someone else, without having to set up a new account.

How do I know my application was approved?
You will receive an email. Also, in the "Dossiers" list, the status will say "Approved"

My application was approved on the second try. What do I do with the previous application that is still waiting for approval?
Just go to Dossiers, click the Action link, and choose delete (the trash can icon).

My application was approved. Now what do I do?
Your email will contain a link to a PDF file (also available for download from the "Dossiers" page). The file contains a QR code and your vaccination details. This is your Pass Sanitaire. You could just print this out and show it on demand, and/or you can make a digital version that is stored on your phone (see below). It's probably a good idea to print out a copy to take with you even if you make a digital version, in case your phone gets lost, stolen or damaged.

How do I upload the Pass Sanitaire to my phone?
To make a digital version, you have several options. Each country in Europe has its own app that allows its citizens to store a digital version of their EU Digital Covid Certificate. Some of these are only available to the country's citizens because you have to enter your medical ID number in order to add the Certificate. However, a few countries have apps that anyone can use. France's "TousAntiCovid" app is one of them - you can download it from the Apple or Google app store even in the US. It will allow you to scan the QR code on the Pass Sanitaire you downloaded, and then it will store the code and info for you to display when needed.

Alternatively, you can store your Pass Sanitaire in your Apple Wallet or a third-party wallet app. An easy way to do this is to go to https://www.getcovidpass.eu/ on your phone's web browser and follow the instructions to scan your Certificate. It will then store the pass in your Apple Wallet or, if you use Android, prompt you to download the "YourPass" app that provides the same functionality.

Using either the TousAntiCovid or wallet apps, or the paper certificate, you should be able to use your Pass Sanitaire throughout Europe, not just in France.

Does the Pass expire? Can I use it for multiple trips?
The website of the French consulate in Washington states that the pass for visitors does not expire. You should be able to use it for multiple trips. However, keep in mind that the authorities may change the vaccination requirements in the future (e.g., requiring a third vaccine injection). Your Pass will show only the vaccines you've received prior to submitting your application, so it would be rejected if your vaccines no longer meet the requirements.

I'm not visiting France. Are there other ways for non-Europeans to get a EU Digital Covid Certificate?
Yes. Some ways that have been reported to work:
1. Ask a pharmacist in Germany to convert your CDC card to a EU QR code. There are mixed reports of success with this; see the Germany forum and the top of this thread.
2. Upload your CDC card to the health department of a Swiss canton. There are reports of people getting a QR code without even even sending proof of a stay in Switzerland. See the same thread linked to just above, posts starting around October 16, 2021.
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Expansion of the pass sanitaire

Old Jul 12, 2021, 3:05 pm
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Expansion of the pass vaccinal

So, it’s official, President Macron announced today that the pass sanitaire (tousantiCovid app) will be required to enter a lot more places starting August. This includes Cafés and restaurants, movie theatres, malls, trains and planes.

As of right now, foreigners (or even French citizens) vaccinated abroad cannot import their vaccine certificate into the app as it cannot be verified. Yet, it is totally fine and accepted when entering the country at the border controls. Being fully vaccinated in Canada and Dual citizen (FR/CA), I hope they find a solution soon. Tons of French citizens living abroad and tourists will be seriously impacted if nothing is implemented very soon.

Why can’t they stamp our certification upon entry (similar to the stamp in the passport) or issue a QR code once eligibility is verified at entry to import into the app? If the status is good enough for entry into the country, it should remain good enough for the rest of your trip.

Hope announcements are made in the coming days.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by wysiwyg
Hope announcements are made in the coming days.
Agreed... I was supposed to fly to France Wednesday morning for a month as a tourist, and now I'm not sure what to do. I can't get a vaccine passport as a foreigner, and I'm not sure if I want to risk being told I'm not allowed to eat for the two weeks of August preceding my flight home!
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 4:25 pm
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You can always get tested for 48 hours to import that QR code into the app. But that will be costly. The new measures are expected in August (no date given, so might be able to avoid it for most of your stay if they implement it later in the month)

I’m going for 11 days in September, so hopefully a solution is found by then. Worse case, I’ll get tested regularly at 29€ for the antigen rapid test valid for 48 hrs.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by lobo411
Agreed... I was supposed to fly to France Wednesday morning for a month as a tourist, and now I'm not sure what to do. I can't get a vaccine passport as a foreigner, and I'm not sure if I want to risk being told I'm not allowed to eat for the two weeks of August preceding my flight home!
I would not worry at all. Everything will be fine. Either your cdc card will be accepted like at the border or they will find an electronic way to do it. Let's wait a few days to know more about the practical implementation.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 4:53 pm
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A pretty worrying development given the possible implications.

Might be taking the voucher for my flights to Paris, pending clarification.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 7:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
I would not worry at all. Everything will be fine. Either your cdc card will be accepted like at the border or they will find an electronic way to do it. Let's wait a few days to know more about the practical implementation.
I hope so! A few days is all I have to make the call, since I'm departing from LAX to CDG at 10:30 AM 7/14. That should mean I'd miss the worst of the implementation (since the restaurant/train/shopping aspect of it doesn't start until sometime in August), but still...the prospect of staying home and saving 150,000+ miles plus a few thousand $$ is getting somewhat appealing.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 7:21 pm
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I’ve been following it for a while. The pass sanitaire has been in use since June. To use it, you need to enter one of 3 things:
1. Load your vaccine info
2. Get tested locally, obtain a QR code and scan it to add to app (valid for 48hrs)
3. Provide proof of prior infection (and possibly load a code for that as well (or tied to Ameli.fr as well)

Option 1 would apply to foreign vaccinated tourists, but the app doesn’t currently allow you to scan or import a foreign vaccine passport or proof of vaccination from abroad. This has been confirmed in the Ameli.fr forum.

Sources:
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...er-travel-home
https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-cor...pass-sanitaire
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Originally Posted by wysiwyg
I’ve been following it for a while. The pass sanitaire has been in use since June. To use it, you need to enter one of 3 things:
1. Load your vaccine info
2. Get tested locally, obtain a QR code and scan it to add to app (valid for 48hrs)
3. Provide proof of prior infection (and possibly load a code for that as well (or tied to Ameli.fr as well)

Option 1 would apply to foreign vaccinated tourists, but the app doesn’t currently allow you to scan or import a foreign vaccine passport or proof of vaccination from abroad. This has been confirmed in the Ameli.fr forum.

Sources:
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...er-travel-home
https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-cor...pass-sanitaire
Those links are not confidence inspiring. If the French government hasn't lifted a finger to help expat French citizens get their pass sanitaire, then it's not likely they'll do anything for foreign tourists. Sigh. I guess I'll make my decision about cancellation in the morning, but it's looking increasingly grim.
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I am pretty confident that people from the USA will be able to show their vaccination cards in lieu of the passe sanitaire for entering restaurants, shopping malls, etc, or the government will set up some sort of "Tous Anti Covid Tourisme" app for people vaccinated outside of the EU (but with EU-approved vaccines).

This was just announced last night - I'd wait for a bit before cancelling.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 4:23 am
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I thought I read somewhere that it will begin 21 July for museums, cinemas, theaters etc. and then August for restaurants, cafes etc. I am sure museums will accept a paper vaccination card in lieu of the Tous Anticovid digital pass, but I would prefer not to carry my vaccination card with me all the time. If a photo works, then it's fine.

But I agree, if the paper vaccination card is valid for entry into France, they should make it easy for people to use a temporary? QR code for a visitor or a French citizen returning/visiting France.
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Exclamation another dual citizen here

Originally Posted by wysiwyg
As of right now, foreigners (or even French citizens) vaccinated abroad cannot import their vaccine certificate into the app as it cannot be verified. Yet, it is totally fine and accepted when entering the country at the border controls. Being fully vaccinated in Canada and Dual citizen (FR/CA), I hope they find a solution soon. Tons of French citizens living abroad and tourists will be seriously impacted if nothing is implemented very soon.
I am in a similar boat (FR/US), I have not been able to find a way to upload my CDC card & get the French QR code. I was in France last month, no issue, so I can wait a few months before my next trip.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 1:14 pm
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Olivier Véran, the French health minister, clearly stated today that the issue of people having been vaccinated abroad (including tourists) will have been solved by the time these measures take effect:


I'm in the same situation as y'all, so fingers crossed.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by mk712
Olivier Véran, the French health minister, clearly stated today that the issue of people having been vaccinated abroad (including tourists) will have been solved by the time these measures take effect:

I'm in the same situation as y'all, so fingers crossed.
I don't speak French very well, so maybe someone else can check this but...I believe he's talking about French citizens vaccinated abroad while they were tourists. =(

This is the google translate version of the text. It seems like he's specifically referring to citizens who were vaccinated while living abroad and want to return to metropolitan France.

"For French people living abroad, tell you that by the time the law is promulgated, that you will soon have the opportunity to vote. We will have solved this problem and all French people living abroad, but also tourists vaccinated with a complete vaccination schedule, returning to the national territory will have an equivalence when they justify it, and will be able to circulate like the other citizens on the national territory. "

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"Pour les Français de l'étranger, vous dire que d'ici à la promulgation de la loi, que vous aurez bientôt l'occasion de voter. Nous aurons solutionné ce problème et l'ensemble des Français de l'étranger, mais également des touristes vaccinés avec un schéma vaccinal complet, revenant sur le territoire national auront une équivalence lorsqu'ils le justifient, et pourront circuler comme les autres citoyens sur le territoire national."
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by lobo411
I don't speak French very well, so maybe someone else can check this but...I believe he's talking about French citizens vaccinated abroad while they were tourists. =(

This is the google translate version of the text. It seems like he's specifically referring to citizens who were vaccinated while living abroad and want to return to metropolitan France.
It should be relatively easy (from a technological perspective) to make foreigners able to use whatever method they develop. Considering France only opened up to Americans a couple of months ago, it would be pretty dumb to NOT have some way for them to use this.
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It should be relatively easy (from a technological perspective) to make foreigners able to use whatever method they develop. Considering France only opened up to Americans a couple of months ago, it would be pretty dumb to NOT have some way for them to use this.
I very much agree! My fears are largely molded by my experience as part of the Novavax clinical trial, which ran in the US and the UK. The UK volunteers were specifically told by everyone from Boris Johnson on down that they wouldn't be penalized or disadvantaged in any way for their service. In March, any UK participant who was in the placebo group was given the real vaccine, so they're all 100% vaccinated.

The trouble is...none of them can prove it. All they have is letters Novavax gave them stating that they're fully vaccinated and shouldn't be discriminated against. And they have a lot of empty promises from the NHS and their app developers saying that they know there's a problem, and they're working on it. It'll be fixed in a few more weeks. They've been told it'll be fixed in a few more weeks since April, and of course...it hasn't been fixed! This means that UK Novavax trial participants have had to cancel vacations, flights, cruises, etc... because the NHS app doesn't show that they're vaccinated.

So that shapes my fears. How hard could it be to fix the NHS app so it shows that people who were vaccinated, are vaccinated? How hard could it be to make good on all those promises of non-discrimination against trial volunteers, considering they were made by everyone from the PM on down? Well...every morning my Facebook feed has 3-5 new threads started by UK participants hoping that the app finally shows them as vaccinated. It hasn't happened yet!
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