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theplayer Nov 26, 2021 6:11 am


Originally Posted by wysiwyg (Post 33758004)
The French government is expected to announce today that everyone who doesn’t have their 3rd dose (booster) will have their passe Sanitaire cancelled on January 15, 2022 or 7 months after receiving their 2 dose. (Already set to expire on Dec 15 for seniors) not sure how this will play for foreigners who may not be eligible for a third dose in their own country.

Edit FallenPlat beat me to it!, but to clarify, people 18+ are eligible for their 3rd dose after 5 months from their last dose, and the pass expires after 7 months (unless they receive the booster). Also announced is that if not vaccinated, a PCR/Antigen test performed will only be valid for 24 hrs instead of 72 hrs currently.

so for foreigners who recently received the French health pass(with 2 doses) and get their third dose after receiving the pass but before their trip, how is the pass updated? I assume they would go to local pharmacy? So applying for the pass was basically a waste of time in this case.

FallenPlat Nov 26, 2021 10:26 am

Yes, except for two things. First, and as I said above, it's not yet certain that the Passes issued to foreign tourists and those issued to residents of France will expire on the same schedule. And second, having the French app on your phone already and understanding how the whole thing works will make things easier for you to manage than they would've been had you not had this experience. Also, and this is somewhat beside the point here, it would appear from the many data points above in this thread that a CDC card still works fine in big places like Paris.

Or at least that's how I console myself. Let us know if you come across any better or more up-to-date information.

kerouac2 Nov 27, 2021 9:29 am

To be clear about current French rules, the pass sanitaire is valid for 7 months after the 2nd shot. because it is 6 months + 1 month grace period.. If somebody gets their 2nd shot on December 1st, for example, they are good to go until July 2022. No decision has been made about if or when booster shots will expire.

And tests (either type) are only valid for 24 hours in France now to annoy the anti-vaxxers.

TomMM Nov 27, 2021 10:07 am


Originally Posted by kerouac2 (Post 33762975)
To be clear about current French rules, the pass sanitaire is valid for 7 months after the 2nd shot. because it is 6 months + 1 month grace period.. If somebody gets their 2nd shot on December 1st, for example, they are good to go until July 2022. No decision has been made about if or when booster shots will expire.

And tests (either type) are only valid for 24 hours in France now to annoy the anti-vaxxers.

It has been more than 7 months since my second shot and when scanned using the latest version of the TACVerif app my pass sanitaire is valid. I goy my booster last week and will get a new pass sanitaire during my next trip to Paris but I am curious at what point my current pass will be invalidated.

pascalgr Nov 27, 2021 10:13 am


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 33763057)
It has been more than 7 months since my second shot and when scanned using the latest version of the TACVerif app my pass sanitaire is valid. I goy my booster last week and will get a new pass sanitaire during my next trip to Paris but I am curious at what point my current pass will be invalidated.

If you are less than 65 Years old, your old pass will be no more valid on 15 January 22. If 65 or over it will be no more valid on 15 December 21.

TomMM Nov 27, 2021 10:18 am


Originally Posted by pascalgr (Post 33763074)
If you are less than 65 Years old, your old pass will be no more valid on 15 January 22. If 65 or over it will be no more valid on 15 December 21.

I understand that but I am more interested in the 7 month rule since I am clearly past that.

theplayer Nov 27, 2021 10:19 am


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 33763057)
It has been more than 7 months since my second shot and when scanned using the latest version of the TACVerif app my pass sanitaire is valid. I goy my booster last week and will get a new pass sanitaire during my next trip to Paris but I am curious at what point my current pass will be invalidated.


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 33763085)
I understand that but I am more interested in the 7 month rule since I am clearly past that.

It's been posted, Jan 15th.

TomMM Nov 27, 2021 10:26 am

So as stated above the ‘the current rule’ is 7 months but takes affect on Jan 15th. Got it.

theplayer Nov 27, 2021 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by TomMM (Post 33763109)
So as stated above the ‘the current rule’ is 7 months but takes affect on Jan 15th. Got it.

that's how I read it. Of course, I get their on the 13th for a week so now have to update at a pharmacy and shell out 36 Euro. Then again, with the new variant countries might lock down again.

SFOTerry Nov 29, 2021 6:07 am

I received my PS via the online process in September (using my CDC vaccination card). I got my booster shot in the US in October, so it's not shown in my passe. Since I'm 65+, my passe may be deactivated on Dec 15. I'm scheduled to return to the US on Dec 7th, so that's not an immediate issue. But I'm hoping to return in April.

Today I went to a pharmacy in Lyon and asked if there was a process to update my PS to reflect the booster. There was a slight language barrier, but the person who could handle it would not be in until later. I was told it would cost 36 euros. So I'm going to wait until I return to Paris later this week and check with another pharmacy. If everyone wants the same price I'll just wait until next year and wing it. If there is a next year and I return to France. :rolleyes:

wysiwyg Nov 29, 2021 6:29 am

For French citizens, here is specific info on how to update your pass with the booster online. (The portal remains available to us/them). it’s is French obviously.
https://www.rolandlescure.fr/single-...ement-français

nrr Nov 29, 2021 9:15 am

I was able to apply for a PS just before they stopped accepting on-line applications from USAers. I only had two Pfizer shots recorded at that point, but my application was in "edit mode" so I was able to resubmit my updated CDC CARD to include my BOOSTER (administered on 9/27/21).
No expiration date is listed on my PS (it's called a EU DIGITAL COVID CERTIFICATE)--when does it expire, I'm over 65?

FallenPlat Nov 29, 2021 9:42 am

That's just great. (And the question posed immediately above this post is answered below.)

I clicked on the link kindly supplied above (or, more accurately, a link within that link). I take this government posting as official notice that the Passes issued to tourists do indeed expire on the same schedule as those issued to citizens of France: "Warning, for extra-EU citizens, starting October 26 2021, the request for a EU certificate of vaccine for foreigners can be made directly at pharmacies in France. Please do not fill a file on this platform, your file will be refused." The link supplied above is for French citizens only and mostly, says the link, for French citizens in the US. What annoys me is that writing in plain English, or plain French, just shouldn't be that hard. Here's one possible locution, for example: "Hey, tourists, without a timely third dose, your Passes expire, too!" I'm still trying to find that somewhere and can't.

As for Passes that already include the booster, there currently is no expiration date at all. Eventually I suspect that might well change but maybe we can all hope that that won't be for a while.

Marambio Nov 29, 2021 10:25 am


Originally Posted by SFOTerry (Post 33767732)
I received my PS via the online process in September (using my CDC vaccination card). I got my booster shot in the US in October, so it's not shown in my passe. Since I'm 65+, my passe may be deactivated on Dec 15. I'm scheduled to return to the US on Dec 7th, so that's not an immediate issue. But I'm hoping to return in April.

Today I went to a pharmacy in Lyon and asked if there was a process to update my PS to reflect the booster. There was a slight language barrier, but the person who could handle it would not be in until later. I was told it would cost 36 euros. So I'm going to wait until I return to Paris later this week and check with another pharmacy. If everyone wants the same price I'll just wait until next year and wing it. If there is a next year and I return to France. :rolleyes:

36 euros is the maximum price set by the government, so it's likely to be the same in Paris (I know my local pharmacy in central Paris charges 36 euros as well).


Originally Posted by FallenPlat (Post 33768273)
I clicked on the link kindly supplied above (or, more accurately, a link within that link). I take this government posting as official notice that the Passes issued to tourists do indeed expire on the same schedule as those issued to citizens of France: "Warning, for extra-EU citizens, starting October 26 2021, the request for a EU certificate of vaccine for foreigners can be made directly at pharmacies in France. Please do not fill a file on this platform, your file will be refused." The link supplied above is for French citizens only and mostly, says the link, for French citizens in the US. What annoys me is that writing in plain English, or plain French, just shouldn't be that hard. Here's one possible locution, for example: "Hey, tourists, without a timely third dose, your Passes expire, too!" I'm still trying to find that somewhere and can't.

If tourists get the same type of QR Code with the date/type/place of vaccination and it lists the issuing country as FR, I find it very unlikely that the system will spot the difference between tourist/resident and may just cancel the pass after 7 months. I do not know what happens with other EU Certificates, though (e.g. if a Spanish pass doesn't expire in Spain after 7 months, would it expire in France?).

snic Nov 29, 2021 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by Marambio (Post 33768415)
36 euros is the maximum price set by the government, so it's likely to be the same in Paris (I know my local pharmacy in central Paris charges 36 euros as well).

If tourists get the same type of QR Code with the date/type/place of vaccination and it lists the issuing country as FR, I find it very unlikely that the system will spot the difference between tourist/resident and may just cancel the pass after 7 months. I do not know what happens with other EU Certificates, though (e.g. if a Spanish pass doesn't expire in Spain after 7 months, would it expire in France?).

The EU Certificate contains the dates of vaccination, so it would be easy for a QR scanner app to tell the user whether the bearer's pass is valid or invalid in France, even if it were issued in a different country.

Of course, from what I hear, not every restaurant/bar/etc uses a QR scanner app and some of them instead just let their employees glance at the text on the bearer's phone.


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