kauppias

Indeed looks like they stopped making new agreements with oomi too, I wonder how long the S bonus will continue for current customers

WilcoRoger

Obviously they grandfathered the Vantaan Sähkö contracts. Let's see what gives when my current one is up for renewal.

Talonmies

Hard to believe this is FlyerTalk/FinnairPlus/2021 Promo -forum?!? Reading this bulls..t makes me very worried of the mental health of all participants.

Medical seminars in 10-20 years will call this as "collateral damages of the Covid restriction"

I hope to see one fine day some reasonable talks in this thread...and that should happen before "2026 Promotions"

kauppias

I never had a Vantaa contract I signed up with oomi 😂

WilcoRoger

Given that there's is next to nothing to discuss about AY and our FT addiction, the AY corner developed into general Finland höpö-höpö.

kauppias

Hard to believe AY has not introduced some sort of promotion to keep customers engaged/earning/excited...

It has been very quiet, and there is indeed very little if any reason to get excited about with AY these days

OH-LGG

Well if the industry is dead naturally it's silent. here.

What promos You have in mind? Buy ticket now and fly in 2026 ?

WilcoRoger

I would think it's the same as it is (was?) with hotels. Hardly any promos, prices remained high (if the hotel stayed open) Anybody who stayed at hotels e.g. last spring simply had to, so they paid the going rate.

Same now, at least in Europe - people who fly, just have to fly, promos will not bring in new customers. (Yes, I know that some people have daily HEL-OUL runs )

intuition

True, but there are things an airline can do. Engage and activate the audience, even without actual flying.
One airline comes to mind, that tries actively to engage audience with news, events and offers to keep everyone longing for future travel.
Finnair is more in a dormant state. It is natural, there are no resources. But it might hurt when it is time to start things up again.

OH-LGG

Live events are prohibited and if nothing happens then where does the news come from

And whats the power of offers when all destinations excl domestic are stupid nose digging games and paperwork.

on22cz

I'd say this applied last spring, but since summer (at the latest) I've been seeing a flow of promos across my hotel memberships (HH, ALL, BW). The prices have also been at least reasonable most of the times.
I've definitely felt more engagement from that side than from AY.

This! It feels like they just accepted that the industry is down and decided to wait. Their standard has become offering an extra piece of luggage for purchase to top tier customers and their creativity peaked with K-Market meals after similar concept of airplane food on the ground had already been launched by other airlines. It's not a bad thing to get inspired, but when it would be a better time to become creative and take some risk than when it's all deep in s**t.
If memory serves me well, AY took quite a leading step in status extension last spring, but that was just about it. Probably people with similar mindset as OH-LGG working there...

All that being said, AY has much more difficult situation than many other airlines, but that shouldn't be an excuse to justify giving up on efforts.

intuition

There are hotels and there are HOTELS.

Nordic Choice has, after the initial chock, responded with creative rates and a flood of promotions during 2020. To name a few, "check-in office" (dayroom rate), longstay rates, conference room free of charge, 1 night free every 5 nights promo, 3x points promo, 4x points promo, 5x points promo, 20% discount on all gift certificates, 3x points promo on credit card spend, upgrades for free on certain rates, 2 for one in restaurant, ... , ...

There is a reason I am currently at 63 (!) nights since june 2020 and the last 2 months of the membership year doesn't look bad either.

kauppias

Any promo really, does not have to be flying, but if they dont do something while others airlines do, they will lose some customers.

Even as a frequent flier without flights I am sure creative marketing can be done....

Say xx amount of Tier points for every xxx amount of spend on cobrand cards...

Or something else...


But just nothing is weak in my opinion.


​​​​​​Those who fly have to fly sure, but they sure as hell don't have to fly Finnair with ZERO benefits 😂😂😂😂🤷🏼‍♂️

I am booking flights now and as I have said before my flights are in the wind as I do not have to book with Finnair, they just don't offer ANY incentive to do so right now, sure 10k€ does NOT make or break an airline however if 10 or 100 or 1000 people think like me it adds up...

Domestic flight TPs X2/3/4 could be a nice promo or partner up with a hotel company in Finland offering 2000tps for a inroom dining staycation package 🤷🏼‍♂️

Feel free to use theseFinnairPlus_Ela 😂

WilcoRoger

Yes, that's what I also wrote. But for the European airline industry it's the same - with entry restrictions/test requirements and last minute changes* to these, still only those fly who must.

Germany did quite a trick with their Easter Mallorca set by introducing negative test requirement while the crowd was already taking sun.

OH-LGG

I just gave the facts that live events are prohibited and all destinations are under restrictions and extra paperwork. That is not my mindset, that's how things are right now.

If AY launches today AMS for 25€, I wouldnt go digging my nose at airports or pay for that höpöhöpö.