Does anyone here also post on Milepoint?
Oct 14, 2013, 1:40 am
#106
Moderator: Hilton Honors forums
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
Posts: 24,997
I'm sorry you took it personally. Although I don't recall the encounter as well as you do, I suspect it is more likely my demeanor changed because a) you were not an available attractive young blonde woman and 2) you were not offering me a beer. 
Seriously, though, I do apologize for offending you when we met. That wasn't my intent.
Seriously, though, I do apologize for offending you when we met. That wasn't my intent.
Although what I posted actually happened, I posted it for the sake of levity in response to the comment about you defending the moderators of FlyerTalk. You should have seen that look on your face when you found out that I was a moderator on FlyerTalk!
As for not being an available attractive young blonde woman, all I have to say in response is: thank goodness!
As for the beer — well, I do not drink alcoholic beverages; and I do not recall any being offered at the Freddie Awards...
Oct 14, 2013, 8:54 am
#107
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,187
sbm12 just posted his personal valuation of the premium membership
http://boardingarea.com/thewandering...um-membership/
http://boardingarea.com/thewandering...um-membership/
Oct 14, 2013, 9:33 am
#108
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Yiron, Israel
Programs: Bates Motel Plat
Posts: 68,928
sbm12 just posted his personal valuation of the premium membership
http://boardingarea.com/thewandering...um-membership/
http://boardingarea.com/thewandering...um-membership/
I am HHonors Diamond through March 2015, so the offer of Gold was not worth anything to me this year. That said, if it is offered again next year, by itself it will be worth the cost (just in savings on using the internet alone)
What I did do is to buy the package, then give the benefits that I can't use (like HHonors Gold and the 1,000 United MileagePlus award miles) to two friends to split between themselves.
(To my everlasting disgrace, they are both FT Mods, may God have mercy on my soul.)
When I think of the benefits that the three of us, jointly, will get I think it was an excellent bargain.
Oct 14, 2013, 11:32 am
#109
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,623
There is no need to apologize. I did not take it personally. In fact, I thought it was humorous, actually.
Although what I posted actually happened, I posted it for the sake of levity in response to the comment about you defending the moderators of FlyerTalk. You should have seen that look on your face when you found out that I was a moderator on FlyerTalk!
As for not being an available attractive young blonde woman, all I have to say in response is: thank goodness!
As for the beer — well, I do not drink alcoholic beverages; and I do not recall any being offered at the Freddie Awards...
Although what I posted actually happened, I posted it for the sake of levity in response to the comment about you defending the moderators of FlyerTalk. You should have seen that look on your face when you found out that I was a moderator on FlyerTalk!
As for not being an available attractive young blonde woman, all I have to say in response is: thank goodness!
As for the beer — well, I do not drink alcoholic beverages; and I do not recall any being offered at the Freddie Awards...
But yes I have a pretty strong prejudice where FT moderators are concerned, I do admit. Especially back when Randy was in charge of moderators and moderation.
Oct 14, 2013, 12:04 pm
#110
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,623
The value of a Premium Membership will differ from person to person. For me, the only thing that it offered that I can use is the upgrade to National Emerald Executive level.
I am HHonors Diamond through March 2015, so the offer of Gold was not worth anything to me this year. That said, if it is offered again next year, by itself it will be worth the cost (just in savings on using the internet alone)
What I did do is to buy the package, then give the benefits that I can't use (like HHonors Gold and the 1,000 United MileagePlus award miles) to two friends to split between themselves.
(To my everlasting disgrace, they are both FT Mods, may God have mercy on my soul.)
When I think of the benefits that the three of us, jointly, will get I think it was an excellent bargain.
I am HHonors Diamond through March 2015, so the offer of Gold was not worth anything to me this year. That said, if it is offered again next year, by itself it will be worth the cost (just in savings on using the internet alone)
What I did do is to buy the package, then give the benefits that I can't use (like HHonors Gold and the 1,000 United MileagePlus award miles) to two friends to split between themselves.
(To my everlasting disgrace, they are both FT Mods, may God have mercy on my soul.)
When I think of the benefits that the three of us, jointly, will get I think it was an excellent bargain.
And of course there are those who will buy it because they are super-dedicated to Randy/MP and will buy whatever they are selling.
Speaking of the super-fans, I have to say, it's interesting that the MP/FTEF folks are taking the Smisek approach to the points and miles business: ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue. Squeeze existing customers for FTEF super-plutonium membership, hit them up for gold MP membership, get *MEGADO folks to pay an extra $300 for a guaranteed empty middle seat, etc.
Interesting and SMART. ^
Oct 14, 2013, 12:13 pm
#111
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
It seems to me that this offer is targeted at the FTEF's core audience: newbies. There's not much in there for folks who already have any juice whatsoever. For me, I think Seth's valuation is spot-on.
And of course there are those who will buy it because they are super-dedicated to Randy/MP and will buy whatever they are selling.
Speaking of the super-fans, I have to say, it's interesting that the MP/FTEF folks are taking the Smisek approach to the points and miles business: ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue. Squeeze existing customers for FTEF super-plutonium membership, hit them up for gold MP membership, get *MEGADO folks to pay an extra $300 for a guaranteed empty middle seat, etc.
Interesting and SMART. ^
And of course there are those who will buy it because they are super-dedicated to Randy/MP and will buy whatever they are selling.
Speaking of the super-fans, I have to say, it's interesting that the MP/FTEF folks are taking the Smisek approach to the points and miles business: ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue, ancillary revenue. Squeeze existing customers for FTEF super-plutonium membership, hit them up for gold MP membership, get *MEGADO folks to pay an extra $300 for a guaranteed empty middle seat, etc.
Interesting and SMART. ^
I did get the premium thing, as this year HH Gold will be worth it for me based on travel plans, and the UA miles worth a few bucks. But the value does depend on each individual, and for some it's not worthwhile at all.
Oct 14, 2013, 1:51 pm
#112
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
i lost my hilton gold earlier, so I think the package is worth more than $50 because not everyone has the Citi® Hilton HHonors™ Reserve Card.
Oct 14, 2013, 2:35 pm
#113
Moderator: Hilton Honors forums
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
Posts: 24,997
Funny... I DO remember there being beer at the Freddies reception that night. That's a big part of the reason I came!
But yes I have a pretty strong prejudice where FT moderators are concerned, I do admit. Especially back when Randy was in charge of moderators and moderation.
But yes I have a pretty strong prejudice where FT moderators are concerned, I do admit. Especially back when Randy was in charge of moderators and moderation.
...and as for your strong prejudice against moderators on FlyerTalk: whether or not there is any legitimate justification for that strong prejudice, the first thought that entered my mind is that perhaps it is not fair to simply initially paint a group of people with the same broad brush stroke...
Oct 14, 2013, 2:47 pm
#114
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Yiron, Israel
Programs: Bates Motel Plat
Posts: 68,928
...and as for your strong prejudice against moderators on FlyerTalk: whether or not there is any legitimate justification for that strong prejudice, the first thought that entered my mind is that perhaps it is not fair to simply initially paint a group of people with the same broad brush stroke...
Oct 15, 2013, 2:00 am
#115
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: check swarm
Programs: DL DM & 2MM, SPG/Bonvoid LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, $tarbucks Titanium
Posts: 14,404
Interesting thread, thanks for the link...
I'm always amused with chest puffing that goes on when they say how unfriendly FT was in the late '00 - the same FT that had their four co-founders in the power positions of site owner, talk board president, and moderators...
I'm always amused with chest puffing that goes on when they say how unfriendly FT was in the late '00 - the same FT that had their four co-founders in the power positions of site owner, talk board president, and moderators...
... I don't think moderation works on a macro scale like North Korea any more than it does on a micro scale like here, and just drives the conversation elsewhere. Sure things can get ugly but that's a reflection of human behavior. I prefer to see it warts and all. Everything you guys wanted this EMRP forum to be for example has ended up on TBB because he lets people do no holds barred criticism of bloggers, not the watered down stuff you have to have here
Randy himself made discussion of moderation the cardinal sin of FlyerTalk from day one of the moderator corps. His volunteer staff were above reproach. Period.
Randy himself made decisions to ban posters 'for life.'
IMHO, our current Community Director is FAR more tolerant and reasonable than Randy was in terms of allowing discussion of the management of FT. She also does not respond to criticism with rambling overly-defensive posts, but instead directly addresses issues. And she stays engaged, contrasted with Randy's infamous 'seagull management' technique. If you have respectful and candid feedback regarding FT's management I strongly encourage you to PM Carol. It's night and day vs. FT's former management.
Randy himself made decisions to ban posters 'for life.'
IMHO, our current Community Director is FAR more tolerant and reasonable than Randy was in terms of allowing discussion of the management of FT. She also does not respond to criticism with rambling overly-defensive posts, but instead directly addresses issues. And she stays engaged, contrasted with Randy's infamous 'seagull management' technique. If you have respectful and candid feedback regarding FT's management I strongly encourage you to PM Carol. It's night and day vs. FT's former management.
SanDiego1K deserves kudos for an open ear and thoughtfully implementing many quiet improvements, including showing some moderators the door or talking them into taking some "time off". But I feel FT would be even more successful if there was an opportunity for members to see the "warts and all" stuff that ma91pmh refers to.
Nov 27, 2013, 1:40 pm
#117
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: Fallen Plats, ex-WN CP, DYKWIW; still a Hilton Diamond & Club Cholula™ R.I.P. Super Plats
Posts: 25,415
The others existed for varying purposes, some as refuges for FT's unwanted, others where self-annointed in-crowds would mock FT'ers. This is the first I've heard of mFT.
Nov 27, 2013, 7:24 pm
#118
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
At 2.2M posts, MilePoint is alive & well.
The others existed for varying purposes, some as refuges for FT's unwanted, others where self-annointed in-crowds would mock FT'ers. This is the first I've heard of mFT.
The others existed for varying purposes, some as refuges for FT's unwanted, others where self-annointed in-crowds would mock FT'ers. This is the first I've heard of mFT.
(Sorry I couldn't resist!)I had never heard of mFT or any other of the "alternative/refugee/B-side" forums either!
Nov 28, 2013, 4:40 am
#119
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
At 2.2M posts, MilePoint is alive & well.
Of the 2.2 million posts on MilePoint, 1,558,490 are in these threads alone:-
- Count Backwards From 123,456 – 123,487
- The FL* Lounge (Part 3) – 100,648
- Teh Penalty Box | part 2 – 100,003
- The FL* Lounge - Part 4 (IV) – 97,927
- Teh Penalty Box | part 3 – 95,430
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color – 93,974
- The FL* Lounge - Part 5 (V) – 93,802
- [EXPIRED] MONEY FOR NOTHING | Win a free ticket on the Star MegaDO4 (SMD4) – 78,964
- Win a Free Ticket to the oneworld MegaDO | December to Remember – 77,417
- Fly With Friends | Win Free Tickets for the Star Mega Do 3 – 72,592
- The FL* Lounge – 65,061
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color (Part 2) – 64,285
- Teh Penalty Box | part 1 – 63,795
- The FL* Lounge (Part 2) – 60,420
- Post A Random Number – 54,118
- The Community Lounge - Good m/a/e everybody - enjoy your stay with us. – 53,741
- SPIN: Win custom luggage from Rimowa – 49,814
- Teh Penalty Box – 34,159
- I want to be liked! – 32,786
- [JMB Forum Diamond Premier Lounge] The JAL Forum Conversational Thread – 28,345
- WIN: a free ride on the SMD5 – 23,352
- Delta Forum Lounge Thread – 22,020
- Three Word Stories – 20,624
- People Association Thread – 20,535
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color (Part 3) – 18,701
- Seven Word Stories – 12,490
Nov 29, 2013, 4:10 pm
#120
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,623
I haven't done this for a while, but a quick scan of a few of the MilePoint forums gives these numbers.
Of the 2.2 million posts on MilePoint, 1,558,490 are in these threads alone:-
Of the 2.2 million posts on MilePoint, 1,558,490 are in these threads alone:-
- Count Backwards From 123,456 – 123,487
- The FL* Lounge (Part 3) – 100,648
- Teh Penalty Box | part 2 – 100,003
- The FL* Lounge - Part 4 (IV) – 97,927
- Teh Penalty Box | part 3 – 95,430
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color – 93,974
- The FL* Lounge - Part 5 (V) – 93,802
- [EXPIRED] MONEY FOR NOTHING | Win a free ticket on the Star MegaDO4 (SMD4) – 78,964
- Win a Free Ticket to the oneworld MegaDO | December to Remember – 77,417
- Fly With Friends | Win Free Tickets for the Star Mega Do 3 – 72,592
- The FL* Lounge – 65,061
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color (Part 2) – 64,285
- Teh Penalty Box | part 1 – 63,795
- The FL* Lounge (Part 2) – 60,420
- Post A Random Number – 54,118
- The Community Lounge - Good m/a/e everybody - enjoy your stay with us. – 53,741
- SPIN: Win custom luggage from Rimowa – 49,814
- Teh Penalty Box – 34,159
- I want to be liked! – 32,786
- [JMB Forum Diamond Premier Lounge] The JAL Forum Conversational Thread – 28,345
- WIN: a free ride on the SMD5 – 23,352
- Delta Forum Lounge Thread – 22,020
- Three Word Stories – 20,624
- People Association Thread – 20,535
- Post a random number and give each digit with different color (Part 3) – 18,701
- Seven Word Stories – 12,490
