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Old May 14, 2025 | 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by NYC1
I'm not sure it's an upgrade, although it's really all good. The 2005 Palmer is a kick-a$$ wine from an amazing vintage; 2004 is a very different animal, Mouton or not, much more classic and subdued. The Mouton is more ready to drink (although it could also benefit from more time in bottle) while the Palmer needs a lot more time in bottle.
I saw on LHR sectors Clos de Tart 2013 is being served too. Recently opened one on the ground at a friend's dinner 2 months ago and was pleasantly surprised at how open and tertiary it was. It didn't show up when I searched for MXP, but here's hoping for it too!
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Old May 15, 2025 | 11:30 am
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Did 2.5 btls of the Palmer a few days ago, was excellent.

They opened a new bottle of it in the lounge (A gates) whilst I was was waiting.

I slept the second flight..🤣

My return flight now showing Mouton 04 which Ive had a few times now with Emirates.

What a struggle!!
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Old May 24, 2025 | 12:38 pm
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The 2004 Mouton was superb on the LHR DXB leg yesterday. Shame that the other routes dont all have the same vintages But of course there are not enough bottles! Nevertheless some real treats on the wine lists now.
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Old May 24, 2025 | 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by IThink
Shame that the other routes don’t all have the same vintages But of course there are not enough bottles! Nevertheless some real treats on the wine lists now.
Showing on 201 to JFK next week.
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Old May 25, 2025 | 3:45 am
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I think the palmer is almost done now ie needs drinking, clos du tart was better
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Old May 25, 2025 | 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
I think the palmer is almost done now ie needs drinking, clos du tart was better
You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.
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Old May 26, 2025 | 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1
You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.
Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.
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Old May 26, 2025 | 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.
Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.

While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it.
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Old May 26, 2025 | 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1
Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.

While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it.
disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡
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Old May 26, 2025 | 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red
disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡
You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.
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Old May 26, 2025 | 11:36 pm
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Nothing that interesting in the C lounge this morning. B had the RWT behind the bar, but it was a little early in the morning for me.

Onboard DXB-GVA seems to match the menu, no P2 or interesting reds but I will make do with the 2015 Dom.
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Old May 27, 2025 | 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1
You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.
Well... you did say "2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy.". Nothing about that being your opinion, just a very condescending statement to somebody you don't know.
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Old May 29, 2025 | 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡
Originally Posted by NYC1
You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.
Originally Posted by NYC1
Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.

While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it.
Originally Posted by NYC1
You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.
Originally Posted by m3red
Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
Well... you did say "2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy.". Nothing about that being your opinion, just a very condescending statement to somebody you don't know.
What you quote was not the opinions and disagree posts.
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Old May 29, 2025 | 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1
What you quote was not the opinions and disagree posts.
I am still saying palmer 05 is peaking 😀
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Old Jun 2, 2025 | 4:24 pm
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How far out are the wine lists accurate? I have an end of July flight with Rothschild hoping it will still be around!!!
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