Originally Posted by m3red

disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡

Originally Posted by NYC1

You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.

Originally Posted by NYC1

Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.

While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it.

Originally Posted by NYC1

You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.

Originally Posted by m3red

Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.

Originally Posted by DYKWIA

Well... you did say "2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy.". Nothing about that being your opinion, just a very condescending statement to somebody you don't know.