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EK77W Jan 31, 2012 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by irish mark (Post 17921669)
From a non-Ek flyer...

Is the upgraded plane a 3 class 77W or just Y and C? Am I correct in thinking that the 77W will have the newest EK C class seats? Assume it would be way to optimistic to have private suites on this route?

It's a 3 class B77W (8 First, 42 Business, 310 Economy) with First Class Private Suites.
Right now it's a 3 class A332 (12 First, 42 Business, 183 Economy).
http://www.emirates.com/ae/english/a...79072&offset=0

Tomorrow we'll see the launch of Lusaka-Harare followed by Dallas the day after tomorrow.

blackmamba Jan 31, 2012 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by EK77W (Post 17914117)

Seriously TPE? ORD was coming as Clark kept saying that EK was going to add another American destination in 2012. Seeing that they don't have anything in the Midwest, ORD was just the most likely choice (it was either ORD, IAD or BOS).

But TPE? I'm agreeing with the others and believing that this will likely be routed through SIN because hardly anyone flies to Dubai (or the Middle East) from TPE. Neither CI nor BR even fly to Dubai. This is either the smartest gamble EK is making or this could be a huge dud. I vote adding Cebu via SIN or HKG instead.

irish mark Jan 31, 2012 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by EK77W (Post 17923516)
It's a 3 class B77W (8 First, 42 Business, 310 Economy) with First Class Private Suites.
Right now it's a 3 class A332 (12 First, 42 Business, 183 Economy).
http://www.emirates.com/ae/english/a...79072&offset=0

Tomorrow we'll see the launch of Lusaka-Harare followed by Dallas the day after tomorrow.

verry interesting.....thanks...

MucEKPer Jan 31, 2012 1:54 pm

DXB-TPE via SIN is a detour of nearly 40% then a direct flight.
I would be gleaming if BME or DRW were added as tag ons but now I'm dreaming :P

EK433B77W Jan 31, 2012 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by blackmamba (Post 17923627)
Seriously TPE? ORD was coming as Clark kept saying that EK was going to add another American destination in 2012. Seeing that they don't have anything in the Midwest, ORD was just the most likely choice (it was either ORD, IAD or BOS).

But TPE? I'm agreeing with the others and believing that this will likely be routed through SIN because hardly anyone flies to Dubai (or the Middle East) from TPE. Neither CI nor BR even fly to Dubai. This is either the smartest gamble EK is making or this could be a huge dud. I vote adding Cebu via SIN or HKG instead.

It would be great if it ends up being HKG. I could just imagine the loads on that sector.

As for CEB, not really sure if it's a destination for EK, but coming from SIN it could be a different story.

blackmamba Jan 31, 2012 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by EK433B77W (Post 17925565)
It would be great if it ends up being HKG. I could just imagine the loads on that sector.

As for CEB, not really sure if it's a destination for EK, but coming from SIN it could be a different story.

CEB is a perfect destination for EK. First, there are several people who want to fly from DXB-CEB. Chopping off a leg to the death trap of an airport they have an MNL allows everyone in the Southern Philippines to breathe a sigh of relief.

Second, Qatar Airways is cutting service from CEB - Doha in March. If EK flew to CEB, it would be the only direct connection from CEB to the Middle East. Of course, this arguement could go both ways as Qatar would never ax their service if the load factors from CEB were doing fine.

HOWEVER, (and this is the third reason), if EK can get it via SIN then this would change the whole story. Lots of people fly CEB-SIN. Of course, EK would need to compete with 5J, Tiger and Silk but those who could afford it would gladly pay a premium for EK's "prestige."

mecabq Jan 31, 2012 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by blackmamba (Post 17923627)
But TPE? I'm agreeing with the others and believing that this will likely be routed through SIN because hardly anyone flies to Dubai (or the Middle East) from TPE. Neither CI nor BR even fly to Dubai. This is either the smartest gamble EK is making or this could be a huge dud. I vote adding Cebu via SIN or HKG instead.

I vote for "smart gamble." TPE is underserved from the region, but, of course, the fact (and I don't concede that it's true) that there wouldn't be much O&D traffic from DXB is hardly relevant. It's all about connectivity to Africa, Europe, and the Middle East.

ung1 Jan 31, 2012 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 17924120)
DXB-TPE via SIN is a detour of nearly 40% then a direct flight.
I would be gleaming if BME or DRW were added as tag ons but now I'm dreaming :P

Sorry what are BME and DRW?

MucEKPer Jan 31, 2012 11:31 pm

Broome and Darwin, Australia

stargold Feb 1, 2012 2:26 am

Broome, a sprawling metropolis with a population of 11,547? Unlikely :p

MucEKPer Feb 1, 2012 5:43 am

I know Im dreaming, but there is a lot of Economic Activity, and fly-in, fly-out traffic in this area with the mining boom.

Face81 Feb 1, 2012 6:26 am

Potential new EK West African route in the future?
Mauritania: Emirates airline opens office in Nouakchott‎
http://www.afriquejet.com/mauritania...020132527.html



And some more possibilities given the Jumeirah Group's expansion plans? EK always likes to follow them around, but Fly Dubai could also be part of the plan.... :)

“We will open in Kuwait, Majorca, and Azerbaijan. We will almost double the number of hotels under management for Jumeirah in a 14-month period,” Gerald Lawless, executive chairman of Jumeirah Group, told Reuters.
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/jumei...s--443210.html

jiggyjig Feb 1, 2012 6:36 am

Xxxxx

blackmamba Feb 1, 2012 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 17926921)
I vote for "smart gamble." TPE is underserved from the region, but, of course, the fact (and I don't concede that it's true) that there wouldn't be much O&D traffic from DXB is hardly relevant. It's all about connectivity to Africa, Europe, and the Middle East.

What can you get from a connection from TPE that you can't get from a connection from HKG? The connectivity theory just doesn't make sense to me.

stargold Feb 1, 2012 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by blackmamba (Post 17931095)
What can you get from a connection from TPE that you can't get from a connection from HKG? The connectivity theory just doesn't make sense to me.

He's not talking about connectivity out of TPE. He's talking about serving the TPE-originating (or terminating) market with onward connections from DXB, which would make them essentially competitive with other carriers which require 1 stop. e.g. TPE-HKG-LHR on CX vs. TPE-DXB-LHR on EK.


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