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I don't think we'll see EK flying any routes DXB-MAN-YYZ/YUL/YYC/YVR as it doesn't really suit the business model of EK, as they rely on connecting passengers via 1 stop ie. Dubai. As a counter argument of course many of you might see the Australian flights via their respective Asia stop-overs, ie. DXB-KUL-MEL or DXB-SIN-BNE... but I think its fair enough to say that these routes rely quite heavily on the O&D traffic i.e. from KUL-MEL and SIN-BNE, (and of course their returns!) and in a case of MAN-YYZ/YUL/YYC/YVR there just isn't that much of a market to make it suitable for EK flights, not to mention these markets being incredibly low yielding as well!
I think its already clear evidence that with DXB-HAM-JFK not working, due to the flight HAM-JFK having such low loads, it'd probably be the same for any flight across the Atlantic from MAN. As for logistics of this 'hub' we definitely wouldn't see aircraft being based there, or any EK pilots being based outside of Dubai, thats a given. If we see any airline create a hub from MAN, it'll be EY, they seem to be okay with testing markets no one else is prepared to try. Just my two cents! |
Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
(Post 18031817)
As for logistics of this 'hub' we definitely wouldn't see aircraft being based there, or any EK pilots being based outside of Dubai, thats a given. If we see any airline create a hub from MAN, it'll be EY, they seem to be okay with testing markets no one else is prepared to try.
Just my two cents! |
Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
(Post 18031817)
I don't think we'll see EK flying any routes DXB-MAN-YYZ/YUL/YYC/YVR as it doesn't really suit the business model of EK, as they rely on connecting passengers via 1 stop ie. Dubai. As a counter argument of course many of you might see the Australian flights via their respective Asia stop-overs, ie. DXB-KUL-MEL or DXB-SIN-BNE... but I think its fair enough to say that these routes rely quite heavily on the O&D traffic i.e. from KUL-MEL and SIN-BNE, (and of course their returns!) and in a case of MAN-YYZ/YUL/YYC/YVR there just isn't that much of a market to make it suitable for EK flights, not to mention these markets being incredibly low yielding as well!
I think its already clear evidence that with DXB-HAM-JFK not working, due to the flight HAM-JFK having such low loads, it'd probably be the same for any flight across the Atlantic from MAN. As for logistics of this 'hub' we definitely wouldn't see aircraft being based there, or any EK pilots being based outside of Dubai, thats a given. If we see any airline create a hub from MAN, it'll be EY, they seem to be okay with testing markets no one else is prepared to try. Just my two cents! HAM-JFK is a completely different case. Not only were emirates less established, but comparing HAM-JFK to a MAN transatlantic route is like comparing LHR's transatlantics to FRA's. Completely different stories. Nope, no aircraft based there though. There aren't any aircraft based at CMB,BKK,KUL or SIN either. But yes, EY are more likely to test markets, e.g. AUH-ORD. |
I wonder which of these cities will be next? Also, a nice way for EK to get some coverage in Montreal :P
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Originally Posted by Face81
(Post 18032413)
I wonder which of these cities will be next? Also, a nice way for EK to get some coverage in Montreal :p
A few weekly non-stop frequencies to Montreal? |
Originally Posted by razMJ
(Post 18032434)
Non-stop dailies to Chicago and Washington?
A few weekly non-stop frequencies to Montreal? |
Originally Posted by Face81
(Post 18032468)
Add Non stop frequencies to Montreal and Calgary and a direct link to Atlanta, Miami/Orlando and Mexico City and EK will have North America covered ;)
Isn't the main business to Atlanta onward connections, which Delta already have business from Dubai for. Yep, Mexico City. Needed. But probably can't be daily at first. Possibly Middle Eastern migrant connections there as well, mainly MEX-DXB-BEY? Emirates might get more business in America if they get another N.American codeshare, I mean, the codeshare with United has been dropped, but I think there may be an interline agreement with Alaska Airlines and JetBlue? |
Originally Posted by razMJ
(Post 18032496)
Could they sustain a non-stop for Calgary? Don't want restart the debate again, but maybe a scissor hub would be called for for this.
Isn't the main business to Atlanta onward connections, which Delta already have business from Dubai for. Yep, Mexico City. Needed. But probably can't be daily at first. Possibly Middle Eastern migrant connections there as well, mainly MEX-DXB-BEY? Emirates might get more business in America if they get another N.American codeshare, I mean, the codeshare with United has been dropped, but I think there may be an interline agreement with Alaska Airlines and JetBlue? As for Atl and DL, a bit of healthy competition never hurt and besides, a long time ago, DL and EK used to codeshare. I used to take advantage of that link whenever I flew to the US. |
Originally Posted by Face81
(Post 18032468)
Add Non stop frequencies to Montreal and Calgary and a direct link to Atlanta, Miami/Orlando and Mexico City and EK will have North America covered ;)
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Originally Posted by blackmamba
(Post 18032904)
Could you just imagine an A380 service from DCA to JFK 5 times in a day?
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Originally Posted by blackmamba
(Post 18032904)
Seriously, at that rate EK is going to be flying A380s to Winston-Salem and Boise, Idaho and conquer the entire US market. Could you just imagine an A380 service from DCA to JFK 5 times in a day?
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Originally Posted by razMJ
(Post 18033041)
No, I couldn't. But I could imagine IAD to JFK 1 or 2 times, that is if United, Delta or American order any A380s.
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Originally Posted by N830MH
(Post 18033948)
I don't think its happening anytime soon unless if they have enough financial. If they will order the entire A380 in a distant the future. UA is considers to order the A380. This could be potential to order the A380.
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Originally Posted by razMJ
(Post 18033041)
No, I couldn't. But I could imagine IAD to JFK 1 or 2 times, that is if United, Delta or American order any A380s.
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Originally Posted by blackmamba
(Post 18035202)
I was kidding guys...there is no freakin way an airline is ever going to run IAD - JFK on an A380. This isn't a trip to Mecca/Jeddah...
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