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N830MH Mar 24, 2011 1:22 am


Originally Posted by soorox (Post 16072326)
I doubt EK will place 2 A380's to MEL, but the direct EK406/407 flights will make more sense than putting it via KUL because of the premium loads, unless the loads to KUL have been spectacular, and unless EK wants to push both EY & QR out of the MEL market and keep it to themselves,

I too would love EK to have A380 operations at MEL with 3 flights daily too! But's its only a dream, but it could happen

If there is enough aircraft availablility. There is 3 or 4 A380 is coming sometimes in fall 2011. There is 11 or 12 A380 is expected to deliveries sometimes in 2012. If the routes is subject to change without notice. I wasn't sure if EK will have a consider to start new routes from DXB-ORD nonstop on entire 77W or A380. If city of Chicago aviation department will have approves to installed double dual jetbridge.

However, I don't see anything else. I know EK is negotiations to served MIA-DXB nonstop. If there is on the weight restrictions on operated 77W or A380. If there is enough more demands. Lets try to speculating about this one. The entire A380 can handle enough more range to reaches into MIA & ORD nonstop without penalty restrictions and it will save the fuel burns is 1 percent and more fuel efficient and more capabilities. EK can have own justifications the fifth freedom traffic rights through DXB-MIA/ORD nonstop.

Alice11 Mar 24, 2011 2:25 am


Originally Posted by rathin100 (Post 16090155)
And these people want India to drop its trade barriers and allow capital account convertibility! ANd lecture about the free market!!!ROFL!!!

+1. Ordinary attitude in the EU...

bvms Mar 24, 2011 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 16091617)
;EK can have own justifications the fifth freedom traffic rights through DXB-MIA/ORD nonstop.

I doubt anyone here objects if ek gets 5th freedom rights to carry pax RTW from/to/thru/ either mia or ord, is there any proof that the USA FAA will allow this or not? ;)as there is some talk of RTW from dxb-santiago-nz etc.:( I for 1 hope that eventually there is some sort of 5th freedom rights from dxb-usa-nz etc.

bvms Mar 25, 2011 1:39 am


Originally Posted by rathin100 (Post 16061782)
The MERCOSUR aviation people seem definite that a second GRU and/or a new GIG plus a EZE should sson be in place by the end of the year I have also heard some RTW plans DXBSantiago-NZ/oz DXB. Anyone else can confirm this?

who tells you about the dxb-santiago-nz rtw? is that really on?;)

juzzy Mar 25, 2011 9:21 am

@Emirates777

Can you confirm that EK will introduce a second daily flight to DUR from October this year?

rathin100 Mar 26, 2011 12:11 am


Originally Posted by bvms (Post 16098600)
who tells you about the dxb-santiago-nz rtw? is that really on?;)

Its by no means on. According to my information, Its been put on the drawing board by EK strategic planning as part of the long standing corporate strategy to introduce routes that look unlikely -- literally leaps of faith -- but actually have strong underlying market potential, quite like the regional Uk and west Africa strategies.

There are various other possibilities, --this one is striking in its boldness as it then gives EK RTW capability

The other way would have been Vancouver- HKG/Seoul/China but thats obviously off the table

And I dont think transpacific fifth freedoms from the US are on the cards.

But the South Pacific route has a lot of trafiic currently almost 100 per cent dominated by OW --- and huge potential as an alternative route to Asia which QF is choosing to ignore and Air NZ does not have the muscle to exploit. JAL has recently also shut its Brazil Japan route.

SO there you go...Claasic EK leap of faith but not without some substance!

Im in DXB today and will post if I learn any more

callmethebreeze Mar 26, 2011 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by callmethebreeze (Post 16090093)
According to media reports, Emirates may not be allowed to start the second daily to VIE this weekend. Approval is still pending..... Austrian Airlines (Lufthansa) complained about Emirates..... :rolleyes:

Update: the second flight will now start as planned March 27. :)

N830MH Mar 26, 2011 11:03 pm

Unfortunately, Austria is denies the landing rights to EK. Because EK can't accepted to start service to VIE for this time. I have some bad news for you guys. Austria won't lets EK into VIE. Why can't have a fifth freedom traffic rights through DXB-VIE-DXB. It doesn't have a right things to do to against Austria government. I know there is no possibility to start second daily service DXB-VIE anytime soon.

jimyvr Mar 27, 2011 2:55 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 16108222)
Unfortunately, Austria is denies the landing rights to EK. Because EK can't accepted to start service to VIE for this time. I have some bad news for you guys. Austria won't lets EK into VIE. Why can't have a fifth freedom traffic rights through DXB-VIE-DXB. It doesn't have a right things to do to against Austria government. I know there is no possibility to start second daily service DXB-VIE anytime soon.

Your "Bad news" seems to be outdated as the flight increase to VIE is going ahead.

What does DXB MIA/ORD/VIE has anything to do with fifth freedom rights> :rolleyes:

GBM.flights Mar 27, 2011 3:48 am


Originally Posted by callmethebreeze (Post 16107250)
Update: the second flight will now start as planned March 27. :)


Originally Posted by jiml1126 (Post 16108660)
... the flight increase to VIE is going ahead.

It can be confirmed at the Vienna Airport website where EK 125 and EK 127 are expected to land and 126 and 128 to depart.


GBM

NOIR Mar 27, 2011 6:35 am

I actually called Vienna airport information to confirm the double daily flight. The second EK flight leaves Vienna 22:50 which is good for me since I use that airport here, and there. :)

Here is the link to the Vienna Airport information.

An insgesamt vier Informationsschaltern stehen wir den Passagieren mit Rat und Tat zur Seite. Zusätzlich ist unsere telefonische Flugauskunft 24 Stunden unter der Telefonnummer: +43-1-7007-22233 erreichbar.

A little off topic but it looks like the Consevative government in Canada will win a majority in the upcoming elections. I can't see EK expanding into Canada for years to come while they are in power.:(

bvms Mar 28, 2011 12:19 am


Originally Posted by NOIR (Post 16109101)

It looks like the Consevative government in Canada will win a majority in the upcoming elections. I can't see EK expanding into Canada for years to come while they are in power.:(

IMHO it's Better to "wait and see" after May 3rd 2011 when the results come out, to see who wins what numbers-there is still some small talk amongst politicians and lay people too-of a 3 way coalition (if they combinedly win more seats & can work together :rolleyes:) that might be more liberal, still eventually perhaps a few years down the line-Ek'll might get the expansion into Calgary, Vancouver and more flights to /Toronto, perhaps after washington State's {in USA over the border 4 hours from Vancouver international} (I.E.Sea-tac) etc are opened and running :p

bvms Mar 28, 2011 1:04 am


Originally Posted by rathin100 (Post 16104063)
Its by no means on.

There are various other possibilities, --this one is striking in its boldness as it then gives EK RTW capability

The other way would have been Vancouver- HKG/Seoul/China but thats obviously off the table

And I dont think transpacific fifth freedoms from the US are on the cards.

But the South Pacific route has a lot of trafiic currently almost 100 per cent dominated by OW --- and huge potential as an alternative route to Asia which QF is choosing to ignore and Air NZ does not have the muscle to exploit. JAL has recently also shut its Brazil Japan route.

SO there you go...Claasic EK leap of faith but not without some substance!

Im in DXB today and will post if I learn any more

any update on ek/rtw?

rathin100 Mar 28, 2011 10:09 am


Originally Posted by bvms (Post 16113407)
any update on ek/rtw?

Apparently not..spoke to a contact in Ek management on another issue and slipped the question in.. apparently ALL decisions on route expansion of this nature will be only for 2013 or beyond, as they are having to contend with too much with the steady inexorable expansion and multiple demands coming in from existing routings. ""Consolidation"" was the word used.

bvms Mar 29, 2011 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by rathin100 (Post 16115471)
Apparently not..spoke to a contact in Ek management on another issue and slipped the question in.. apparently ALL decisions on route expansion of this nature will be only for 2013 or beyond, as they are having to contend with too much with the steady inexorable expansion and multiple demands coming in from existing routings. ""Consolidation"" was the word used.

thanks rathin100 for your kindness! sadly us RTW's will have to wait for 2013 (or longer??:mad::td: for ek management to give us world travelers something that's really a money spinner for ek, (they've other priorities so far:cool:)

on another topic Lufthansa is the first to confirm MIA as it's next a380 airport, so can Ek be far behind them?:D

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...-a380/150241/1


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