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wanna_be_there Apr 9, 2011 4:57 am


If there is enough more demands. Because LHR is too extremely expensive slots restrictions
Not only is it expensive, any free slots LHR has will be pretty much useless for EK, especially for a service onwards to the USA where you are still tryiong to offer the USA end convinience.


If there is enough more capacity growth in MAN
EK themselves have said MAN has one of the largest unmet demands in its network, so, there is scope for extra, even after next month when the 3rd daily is introduced. Besides, MAN will not be the priority for capacity, its LAX, or wherever any flight goes.


MAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/PHX/ORD

I think the entire A380 gates will be ready to installed double dual jetbridge and lounge, too
Id assume DXB-ORD is do-able non stop, but west coast would be an issue. Also, there is only 1 A380 gate at MAN, but a sizable lounge, and there is also another A380 stand opposite T1, with the option to use another stand for the A380 in emergencies. MAN is hoping to build more A380 gates, but until then, if EK wanted to route multiple A380 flights through MAN, they would have to stagger the times at gate 12, or else not be fussy at bussing pax to the terminal.

bvms Apr 9, 2011 6:32 am


Originally Posted by wanna_be_there (Post 16187407)
Not only is it expensive, any free slots LHR has will be pretty much useless for EK, especially for a service onwards to the USA where you are still trying to offer the USA end convenience.

EK themselves have said MAN has one of the largest unmet demands in its network, so, there is scope for extra, even after next month when the 3rd daily is introduced. Besides, MAN will not be the priority for capacity, its LAX, or wherever any flight goes.

I'd assume DXB-ORD is do-able non stop

BVMS: I'm one of the fellas rooting for dxb-ord direct.

... but west coast would be an issue.

bvms: Right, this explains the rumors of the dxb-man-lax,

http://www.plane-mad.com/forums/manc...rs-part-1.html

(which would be nice for those who wanted to stop over in UK before continuing to LAX :) albeit, it's temporary until mid 2012 when ek's (and BA) supposed to get longer range a380-800's that'll be able to go direct dxb-lax.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ger-range.html

Also, there is only 1 A380 gate at MAN, but a sizable lounge, and there is also another A380 stand opposite T1, with the option to use another stand for the A380 in emergencies. MAN is hoping to build more A380 gates, but until then, if EK wanted to route multiple A380 flights through MAN, they would have to stagger the times at gate 12, or else not be fussy at bussing pax to the terminal.


wanna_be_there Apr 9, 2011 7:54 am


bvms: Right, this explains the rumors of the dxb-man-lax,

http://www.plane-mad.com/forums/manc...rs-part-1.html
No, this site was the source. I keep an eye on both forums regularly, and the DXB-MAN-LAX rumour appeared on here first.

It would be interesting to see exactly where it has come from though....

bvms Apr 9, 2011 10:36 am


Originally Posted by wanna_be_there (Post 16187864)
No, this site was the source. I keep an eye on both forums regularly, and the DXB-MAN-LAX rumour appeared on here first.

It would be interesting to see exactly where it has come from though....

there's little doubt potential is there, capacity is wanted both directions dxb-man-lax-man-dxb, the question is:

(which is more important?) what would be the plan? it's ultimately not what the public (us) want, it's- "the powers that be" in ek ops- they make the decisions and what do THEY think about it :) or not:( right? :p I think emirates 777 needs to tell us if the idea has possibilities or not of execution!

Emirates777 Apr 9, 2011 10:45 am


Originally Posted by bvms (Post 16188608)
there's little doubt potential is there, capacity is wanted both directions dxb-man-lax-man-dxb, the question is:

(which is more important) would be what "the powers that be" in ek ops think about it :) or not:( right? :p I think emirates 777 needs to tell us if the idea has possibilities or not of execution!

I have not heard anything about such a flight, either in the short or medium term.

Expect to see more frequency increases on existing destinations, along with a couple of new destinations during the 2011/12 operating plan.

Rgds
Emirates777

N830MH Apr 9, 2011 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by wanna_be_there (Post 16187407)
Id assume DXB-ORD is do-able non stop, but west coast would be an issue. Also, there is only 1 A380 gate at MAN, but a sizable lounge, and there is also another A380 stand opposite T1, with the option to use another stand for the A380 in emergencies. MAN is hoping to build more A380 gates, but until then, if EK wanted to route multiple A380 flights through MAN, they would have to stagger the times at gate 12, or else not be fussy at bussing pax to the terminal.

I heard Airbus A380 is testing 600tones more to extended more range 9300nm and I think the entire A380 can do nonstop from DXB-LAX/SFO. Due to weight restrictions. Because this is cargo payload restricted. I think A380 can do right time to fly MAN-LAX instead of going to flying DXB-LAX. Can EK will have to orders A380-800R for extended more extra range to reaches into LAX/SFO nonstop. EK does have own justifications a fifth freedom traffic rights. I think EK can do easily way to flying nonstop DXB-AKL on entire A380-800R.

773ER Apr 10, 2011 7:21 am

Does anyone know whether there are plans for EK408/409 DXB-KUL-MEL to be upgraded to lie-flat J in the near future? I'm flying this route in July as well as December and wondering what the chances are of a better product than the current recliners?

Thanks

justinraff Apr 10, 2011 7:28 am

PVG
 
Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, but thought I would pipe up to mention that my flight from DXB-PVG on Sept 02 is now showing aircraft type A380-800 in Manage Booking.

Until recently this was always showing a 777, so A380 approval for Shanghai must have been successfully finalised.

Justin

bvms Apr 10, 2011 8:01 am

[QUOTE=N830MH;16189128]I heard Airbus A380 is testing 600tones more to extended more range 9300nm and I think the entire A380 can do nonstop from DXB-LAX/SFO.

bvms: Just curious- is there any url to prove that? Previously the Sheik Ahmed of Ek said that he was "cautiously optimistic" that a380-800 would be able to go dxb-/sfo/lax but I've never yet seen proof of that yet.

[QUOTE=N830MH;16189128]
Due to weight restrictions. Because this is cargo payload restricted. I think A380 can do right time to fly MAN-LAX instead of going to flying DXB-LAX.

BVMS: But you just said that a380-800r can do dxb-lax? so why (unless to take advantage of 5th freedom rights in man) would ek wish to stopover in man? :eek:

they already stopped their stopover in HAM, so why would they do MAN? {not that I have any objection if they *DO* decide to do it}:D


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 16189128)
Can EK will have to orders A380-800R for extended more extra range to reaches into LAX/SFO nonstop. EK does have own justifications a fifth freedom traffic rights. I think EK can do easily way to flying nonstop DXB-AKL on entire A380-800R.

what about dxb-mia or dxb-ord on a380-800R is that possible or not? any url to prove A380-800R dxb-mia-dxb-ord, dxb-lax, dxb-sfo?

bvms Apr 10, 2011 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Emirates777 (Post 16188652)
I have not heard anything about such a flight, either in the short or medium term.

Expect to see more frequency increases on existing destinations, along with a couple of new destinations during the 2011/12 operating plan.

Rgds
Emirates777

thanks emirates 777, re the 2011-2012 op plan all we've heard about is Geneva, Basra, Copenhagen, a380 update for Shanghai, and Rio announced, but nothing else yet-- but what about KBP-LED-or SUB or DPS? you mentioned something about all these in the operating plan for 2011-2012 when are we going to hear about them?:( silence is deafening!

jimyvr Apr 10, 2011 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by justinraff (Post 16192391)
Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, but thought I would pipe up to mention that my flight from DXB-PVG on Sept 02 is now showing aircraft type A380-800 in Manage Booking.

Until recently this was always showing a 777, so A380 approval for Shanghai must have been successfully finalised.

Justin

Just checked the system, A380 will operate service to Shanghai EK302/303 3 times a week starting 27APR11 (Day 357).

http://airlineroute.net/2011/04/10/ek-pvg-may11/

justinraff Apr 11, 2011 3:09 am


Originally Posted by jiml1126 (Post 16195197)
Just checked the system, A380 will operate service to Shanghai EK302/303 3 times a week starting 27APR11 (Day 357).

What does Day 357 mean? Wednesday, Friday, Sunday?

jimyvr Apr 11, 2011 3:32 am


Originally Posted by justinraff (Post 16196654)
What does Day 357 mean? Wednesday, Friday, Sunday?

Correct. Currently A380 service is approved until 29OCT11.

justinraff Apr 11, 2011 4:30 am


Originally Posted by jiml1126 (Post 16196703)
Correct. Currently A380 service is approved until 29OCT11.

Thanks. And wow... guess I was quite lucky then to be 'upgraded' from the old style 'deeply reclining' 777 seat for my particular Friday travel date. More chance of *not* getting the A380.

:)

Zol Apr 11, 2011 4:55 am


Originally Posted by justinraff (Post 16192391)
Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, but thought I would pipe up to mention that my flight from DXB-PVG on Sept 02 is now showing aircraft type A380-800 in Manage Booking.

Until recently this was always showing a 777, so A380 approval for Shanghai must have been successfully finalised.

Justin

Yup its official now...

http://www.ameinfo.com/261751.html


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