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Face81 Feb 21, 2012 5:20 am


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 18054352)
I don't think your link works :confused:

Oops! Try now :)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/where-...ent--live.html

MucEKPer Feb 21, 2012 7:40 am

Emirates already serves New York and LA twice daily and San Fran once daily.

Face81 Feb 21, 2012 7:57 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 18054944)
Emirates already serves New York and LA twice daily and San Fran once daily.

I was referring to Atlanta, Boston, Chicago and Washington.

irishguy28 Feb 21, 2012 8:10 am

Lol. I wouldn't characterise EK as the airline of choice of the 1%.

(But perhaps they could adopt that as their slogan - to dovetail with another thread in here)

CaptainEKAirbus Feb 21, 2012 8:15 am


Originally Posted by irishguy28 (Post 18055087)
Lol. I wouldn't characterise EK as the airline of choice of the 1%.

(But perhaps they could adopt that as their slogan - to dovetail with another thread in here)

That depends on how many of those 1% have an ethnic background to that of EK's connecting markets such as India... or the UAE its self of course. That said of course I doubt there would be an airline of choice for the 1% as they'd have their own private transportation! But of course the basis of 1% of the richest concentrated in certain cities means there will be other rich people there as well!

Face81 Feb 21, 2012 8:32 am


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 18055111)
But of course the basis of 1% of the richest concentrated in certain cities means there will be other rich people there as well!

Bingo! :-:

MucEKPer Feb 21, 2012 11:26 am

Seems cutting half the capacity at Houston was a bit to much and seems Seattle isn't doing that well with forward bookings
IAH goes 77W, SEA Gets 77L

Only 3 Days of 77W at SEA!

N830MH Feb 21, 2012 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 18056326)
Seems cutting half the capacity at Houston was a bit to much and seems Seattle isn't doing that well with forward bookings
IAH goes 77W, SEA Gets 77L

Only 3 Days of 77W at SEA!

Yup, they did swap the aircraft from 77W to 77L is only for DXB-SEA and DXB-IAH will be operated 77W aircraft instead.

Later in the future if those route will improving enough. EK will able switch back to 77W only for DXB-SEA.

CaptainEKAirbus Feb 22, 2012 5:49 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 18056326)
Seems cutting half the capacity at Houston was a bit to much and seems Seattle isn't doing that well with forward bookings
IAH goes 77W, SEA Gets 77L

Only 3 Days of 77W at SEA!

Obviously a bit of a perfectionist on my side - but airlineroute.net actually made mistake in that the 77W was quoted to have ' P12J42Y304 ' which is not the case, as it actually as ' P8J42Y304 ' ;)


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 18058447)
Yup, they did swap the aircraft from 77W to 77L is only for DXB-SEA and DXB-IAH will be operated 77W aircraft instead.

Later in the future if those route will improving enough. EK will able switch back to 77W only for DXB-SEA.

Seems like they definitely were trying to minimize their loss on this flight as by changing IAH to a 77W, it has effectively weight restricted the aircraft to a capacity of ' P8J42Y250 '.

lax.sea.jnu Feb 22, 2012 7:47 am


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 18060964)

Seems like they definitely were trying to minimize their loss on this flight as by changing IAH to a 77W, it has effectively weight restricted the aircraft to a capacity of ' P8J42Y250 '.


Do you mean that the the 77W can't make it all the way to Houston fully loaded?

CaptainEKAirbus Feb 22, 2012 8:10 am


Originally Posted by lax.sea.jnu (Post 18061488)
Do you mean that the the 77W can't make it all the way to Houston fully loaded?

Yes - I'm not sure how aware you are of the technical side of things, but basically... the 77W has to carry so much fuel generally 115,000kgs + to make journeys such as DXB-LAX (16hours 30mins) that they have to cut into the payload of the 77W to be able to take enough fuel to make the journey, thereby restricting the amount of payload the aircraft can take, so therefore EK limits the number of passengers as 50 X 80kgs per passenger + bags not having to be loaded onto an aircraft means a lot to Emirates in order for the aircraft to make these long journeys! But basically coupled with the high temperatures in DXB thereby limits the max performance at take off for the 77W, they need a long runway and a lot of fuel to make the journey. The 77W routes to LAX, SFO, and JFK are all regularly weight restricted for this point. If you want a more detailed explanation your welcome to PM me!

lax.sea.jnu Feb 22, 2012 8:37 am


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 18061634)
Yes - I'm not sure how aware you are of the technical side of things, but basically... the 77W has to carry so much fuel generally 115,000kgs + to make journeys such as DXB-LAX (16hours 30mins) that they have to cut into the payload of the 77W to be able to take enough fuel to make the journey, thereby restricting the amount of payload the aircraft can take, so therefore EK limits the number of passengers as 50 X 80kgs per passenger + bags not having to be loaded onto an aircraft means a lot to Emirates in order for the aircraft to make these long journeys! But basically coupled with the high temperatures in DXB thereby limits the max performance at take off for the 77W, they need a long runway and a lot of fuel to make the journey. The 77W routes to LAX, SFO, and JFK are all regularly weight restricted for this point. If you want a more detailed explanation your welcome to PM me!

Thanks for the detailed explanation!

So it seems to me that the 77L is a better aircraft for IAH, but it is worth moving to Seattle to restrict capacity on that route?

CaptainEKAirbus Feb 22, 2012 8:51 am


Originally Posted by lax.sea.jnu (Post 18061751)
Thanks for the detailed explanation!

So it seems to me that the 77L is a better aircraft for IAH, but it is worth moving to Seattle to restrict capacity on that route?

The 77L is the better aircraft for IAH for the fact it can operate the route without weight restrictions, but also because it can take a full load of cargo! Since EK is also in the business of cargo, I've seen them operate EK218 from LAX-DXB with only 100pax but filled the payload up with cargo! It was incredible, I never thought that 1 - EK had enough LD3s at LAX and 2 - That many LD3s and pallets could fit on at LAX!
Interms of other routes which EK operates such as SFO and JFK, its debatable whether the 380 would fit these routes better. The 380 can fly JFK with no payload restriction, but it lacks the ability in the first place to take cargo with it.. or much anyhow. But with the 380 they can charge such a high premium for business class/first class seats that essentially they can charge more for the same seat on a 77W... so whether it makes up for the loss in cargo revenue is anyones guess!

ZRHMD11 Feb 22, 2012 9:19 am

A330
 
A330 A6-EAL didn`t fly since december; has she left the fleet or is she just stored?
Thanks for any information!

delta154 Feb 22, 2012 12:01 pm

As of 1st September 2012, the DXB-NCL-DXB A330 is finally upgraded to a 2 class B77W, and shown in EK booking engine.


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