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GBM.flights Feb 13, 2012 7:07 am


Originally Posted by HB-IWC (Post 18004925)
Well that was unexpected! What is even more remarkable is this marks the first time a Europe flight leaves from the morning departure bank and does not return into the midnight arrivals bank but rather uses the early morning arrivals window.

Well, one point down on my wishlist of last year.
I think the flight will do extremely well. Not surprised if there is a quick equipment upgrade, or an additional flight.
OPO next please.

Regarding the timing it may be part of Emirates strategy for the destination markets ex-LIS. e.g. LAD connection would be possible without overnight.

I'm quite curious to see the initial price offers for LAD, GRU and GIG (the QR 400 EUR deals ex-Spain to GRU/EZE come to mind)

GBM
GBM

HB-IWC Feb 13, 2012 10:34 am

The aircraft for the new LIS service seems to be sourced from the LCA-MLA service, which, contrary to earlier plans, will not upgauge to B772ER equipment, but rather operate with its current A332 equipment through the summer.

Currently EK0107/0108 DXB LCA MLA is planned to upgauge to A343 equipment for the winter and then likely to transition into B772ER once the A343 will be retired from the fleet. At that point, LIS should become a B77W destination.

N830MH Feb 13, 2012 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 17966620)
Rumours are at LHR is 6th daily flight starting next year... Whilst all five at the moment will be A380 by next year as well.

Really? Where did you hear this? Will EK to bring more A380 service from DXB-LHR? That's will bring lots of passengers capacity. It was almost more than 3,000 passengers who flown DXB-LHR. It was almost too impossible for those passengers who couldn't get a seat. It will get more extremely overcrowded.

N830MH Feb 13, 2012 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by HB-IWC (Post 17968684)

Also, EK really needs an additional flight to feed into the 1 - 3am departure bank. So far there is only EK002 as EK030 comes in too late and EK008 is really a bit early.

I could see a schedule along the following lines for EK's 6th daily LHR service:

EK031 DXB LHR 0645 1030
EK032 LHR DXB 1230 2315

The main problem will of course be obtaining suitable LHR slots.

I don't think ever enough anymore new LHR slots. Beside, EK will have go to LGW instead of going to LHR. Because there is no more slots available. They won't need it. It will get a real problem for that. Because it was too many aircraft are awaited for takeoff from LHR due to the congestion.

HAZAN01 Feb 14, 2012 3:32 am

A380 ops to bne
 
EK will introduce the A380 on EK406/7 DXB-MEL-DXB in October as previously announced.

What are the plans to introduce the A380 to BNE. Have heard the possibility of putting onto EK432/EK433 DXB-SIN-BNE-SIN-DXB, as capacity needed out of SIN on this flight (first "daytime" flight ex SIN to DXB and Europe) ... or would they put it on EK434/5 and continue on to AKL as they do now ex SYD, and MEL when it comes on line.

The lounge there was built for an A380 so EK obviously have plans to put it in there at some stage ?

Also wheres Emirates777 these days on this forum??

Best all

HB-IWC Feb 14, 2012 9:19 am

As, currently announced A380 flights account for 24 aircraft, but EK will operate up to 31 A380s by year's end, I think we are in for a round of new A380 route announcements, but in case of BNE, wouldn't the more popular nonstop be the first candidate for capacity upgauge if and when the BNE route were to receive such an upgrade?

delta154 Feb 14, 2012 10:51 am


As, currently announced A380 flights account for 24 aircraft, but EK will operate up to 31 A380s by year's end, I think we are in for a round of new A380 route announcements
Ive been told the EK19/20 DXB-MAN-DXB is high on the list for an A380 very soon.

N830MH Feb 14, 2012 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by delta154 (Post 18013813)
Ive been told the EK19/20 DXB-MAN-DXB is high on the list for an A380 very soon.

Yes, if they have more A380 delivery. Try to be more patiently for a while.

Soon, EK #21 (A6-EDU) A380 will delivered sometime on Feb. 24, 2012.

Tibs94 Feb 15, 2012 2:50 am

A380 to AMS from 01AUG. Great news.

dutch_122 Feb 15, 2012 3:08 am


Originally Posted by Tibs94 (Post 18018357)
A380 to AMS from 01AUG. Great news.



It has not been confirmed yet by Emirates Amsterdam or Schiphol Airport.
Yes lots of rumors are be heard.
They must be scaring KLM/Air France alot and others.

regards

dutch_122

Tibs94 Feb 15, 2012 3:24 am

Not a rumour. It's definitely confirmed. Press release by EK by end of the day.

KL714 Feb 15, 2012 3:38 am

I have a booking for EK147 on aug 15 and seatmap is now showing 388 iso 77W so it is pretty much confirmed

dutch_122 Feb 15, 2012 4:17 am


Originally Posted by Tibs94 (Post 18018426)
Not a rumour. It's definitely confirmed. Press release by EK by end of the day.

Tibs94,

tks,

It is at this moment we speake see also www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl.

Lovely, and please also the 2nd flight.

dutch_122

Face81 Feb 15, 2012 4:37 am

This is pretty interesting......

Does this mean we can expect to see trans Atlantic flights via London being operated by Emirates and/or Etihad and perhaps new route introductions to the UK by AirArabia, FlyDubai or RAK Airways? :D


UAE updates Air Services Agreement with UK

(WAM)

15 February 2012Dubai - The United Arab Emirates represented by the General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) has signed an air services Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) updating the Air Services Agreement (ASA) with the United Kingdom in London.

The Agreement was initialed by Omar Bin Ghaleb, Deputy Director General of the UAE General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) and Mark Bosly, Head of Aviation Negotiations at the United Kingdom Department for Transport.

Representatives from Abu Dhabi Department of Transport, Dubai Civil Aviation Authority, Sharjah Department of Civil Aviation, Ras Al Khaimah Department of civil Aviation, Etihad Airways, Emirates Airline and RAK Airways attended the negotiations.

The existing bilateral framework allows full flexibility on the routes, capacity, number of frequencies, types of aircraft and allows for specific fifth freedom rights.

SOURCE:http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...section=theuae



Fifth Freedom Rights, as defined by Wikipedia is as follows:

the right to fly between two foreign countries during flights while the flight originates or ends in one's own country

Example
Toronto - Chicago - Mexico City, as a Canadian company
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air

delta154 Feb 15, 2012 4:53 am


Does this mean we can expect to see trans Atlantic flights via London being operated by Emirates and/or Etihad and perhaps new route introductions to the UK by AirArabia, FlyDubai or RAK Airways?
Even Etihad/Emirates would be foolish to go up against BA/AA on what is effectivly their core market. 15 flights a day LHR-JFK/EWR on BA/AA for example, so, EY/EK with max of 1-2 daily flights LHR-JFK would be really up against it.

I have heard that Emirates have studied the possibility of DXB-MAN-LAX/SFO for the A380 ops, due to the A380 not being able to make it without a payload restriction, but do not know what came of it?


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