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m3red Sep 4, 2012 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by robef (Post 19251342)
Hi all,

I notice that the last 4 flights on DXB-MAN-DXB (EK19/20) have all been reasonably new 777-300ERs (A6-EGQ, EGT, EGL, EGG).

Anyone know if this is a fluke or is this route now exclusively (forgiving last minute changes) run with newer planes? I notice that today's (Tuesday) flight is 3 class whereas in the past few weeks it's been 2 class, which also suggests a change to the route config.

Call me sad, but I'm flying EK20 Y on the 16th Sep and hoping for Weber seats and ICE widescreen.

Thanks!

I m doing EK 20 on Saturday (8th Sept) and again on 26th Sept.

Expert flyer is showing 3 class with suites and new J so I am pretty sure they will both have the new J product but you can't count on last minute changes....

You can check on the "services by flight" section of the emirates site but again that is not 100% accurate....

robef Sep 4, 2012 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 19251482)
I m doing EK 20 on Saturday (8th Sept) and again on 26th Sept.

Expert flyer is showing 3 class with suites and new J so I am pretty sure they will both have the new J product but you can't count on last minute changes....

You can check on the "services by flight" section of the emirates site but again that is not 100% accurate....

Thanks for that... expertflyer seat map seems to show most forthcoming flights as 73W which might be misleading as http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emira...eet-guide.html indicates 73W only applies to A6-EBB/EBI/EBK and it can't always be those three! I think it might be a provisional code as I've seen them change to 73V the day or two before.

Here's hoping EGO makes its way around on my day, would love to fly on the 1,000th 777 !

Soundman76 Sep 5, 2012 10:08 am


Originally Posted by adambisi (Post 19236629)
According to Zol (who has inside knowledge) it will be BOS first.

I'm actually surprised they have not done ORD (especially before SEA) but BOS is low hanging fruit.

Would you rather fly into an airport and compete with two gulf airlines (EY and QR) two hub carriers and their european alliance partners (AA/UA + including Turkish Airlines who is mimicking the gulf carriers goal as a being global hub) or would you go into a airport that although you will compete against the european airlines in the three alliances, its not a fortress hub (all three alliances balance each other out plus B6) and you codeshare and have frequent flier reciprocity with the airport's number one airline (B6).

If EK enters BOS in spring 2013 -it could deter QR (though they will have the ideal plane for the route) TK or EY from entering for quite awhile.


WHY BOS when JFK is so near and IAD is a jump away. There's already 2 daily @ JFK. And so many shuttles to JFK... I still think ORD cause their loays are good. and EY is in the same family. QR, it will be another year before they start that flight... So i think ORD.......

NOIR Sep 5, 2012 10:29 am


Originally Posted by Soundman76 (Post 19257939)
WHY BOS when JFK is so near and IAD is a jump away. There's already 2 daily @ JFK. And so many shuttles to JFK... I still think ORD cause their loays are good. and EY is in the same family. QR, it will be another year before they start that flight... So i think ORD.......

Don't panic, both BOS, and ORD are coming up. Focus on the long term big picture. :)

adambisi Sep 5, 2012 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by Soundman76 (Post 19257939)
WHY BOS when JFK is so near and IAD is a jump away. There's already 2 daily @ JFK. And so many shuttles to JFK...

So just because BOS is closer to JFK than ORD is, potentially high yielding business passengers flying BOS-DXB and onwards (Indian Subcontinent, BKK, SIN, etc) should have to connect in IAD and JFK?

They serve IAH and DFW and the two texas airports are under 250 miles away from each other. There's a lot of shuttles between these two airports as well.



Originally Posted by Soundman76 (Post 19257939)
EY is in the same family.

EY is not the same family. They are a competitor to EK and a very similar yet smaller one. They also have a codeshare agreement with AA as well. Though I don't think BOS-DXB O&D will have much of an impact, being the only 1-stop for some locations on Indian Subcontinent will favor them in BOS.

I don't disagree you with that ORD is an important market and they should have been they before EY even thought of flying there. If EK had the planes just by snapping their fingers, both ORD and BOS would have started already.

EasyRyder Sep 6, 2012 12:35 am

QF & EK 10 year Codeshare
 
http://www.qantasandemirates.com/index.html

From Tim Clark:

Today marks an important date in Emirates' 16-year relationship with Australia and our standing in the aviation industry. I'm delighted to announce that Emirates and Qantas have signed a new global aviation partnership.

The agreement brings together two powerful airlines: Emirates, the world's largest international airline with 125 destinations on six continents, and Qantas, Australia's largest airline with an extensive domestic network of more than 50 destinations and 5,000 weekly flights.

The 10-year code-sharing partnership will lead to better coordination in scheduling and a benefits-sharing model. Neither airline will buy shares or a stake in the other. Subject to Australian regulatory approvals, we anticipate that the partnership will become effective from April 2013.

Qantas will move its hub for European flights from Singapore to Dubai. We will jointly offer 98 weekly services between Australia and Dubai, including four daily A380 flights. For our customers, it means better access to Qantas' Australian domestic network and across the trans-Tasman between Australia and New Zealand.

Our combined fleet of 35 A380s, Emirates' current 23 and Qantas' 12, will form the largest A380 network worldwide, currently serving 22 destinations. More cities will join the A380 network and frequencies will be increased to the existing ones. Together, we will offer seven daily A380 services to London Heathrow, once Qantas launches daily services from Sydney and Melbourne to London via Dubai.

Our Skywards and Qantas Frequent Flyer programmes will be linked, giving customers better opportunities to earn and redeem points and access to tier status benefits. We will share the use of our dedicated A380 facility in Dubai, slated to open in early 2013.

Both airlines will continue with their own expansion plans. Emirates will launch new routes -- Washington D.C., Adelaide, Lyon and Phuket -- as scheduled, and our A380 fleet will increase to 32 by year-end, with 58 more delivered in the coming years.

In the past, we have always resisted joining established airline alliances. They have not added value to their customers' experience, and we have always valued our independence, identity and the protection of our people above commercial gain. This is why the partnership with Qantas is so arranged that it will maximise benefits for our customers, create cost and network efficiencies for both airlines, and reinforce Dubai's standing as a global hub. Importantly, it will expand our business and the opportunities for our people, without compromising their wellbeing and integrity in any way.

Within the short span of 27 years, Emirates has been transformed from an 'upstart' to an industry leader in service, fleet, customer experience and financial rankings. Each one of us has played an important role in this success and, collectively, we all have much to be proud of. I salute and thank you for building Emirates to what it is today, despite the global recession, wars, epidemics and natural disasters that threatened our business. As an example, our Australian journey started with our first service to Melbourne in 1996, and today the country is among our top three destinations.

As we continue to conquer new horizons, I'm hoping for your continued support and commitment. The cornerstone of Emirates' success has always been our steadfast belief in the future, our vision of tomorrow. Today, we have taken one big step into the future.

Hello Qantas. Hello Tomorrow.

Tim Clark
President Emirates Airline

safari_7 Sep 7, 2012 12:25 am


Originally Posted by runnigel (Post 19223634)
I know from the LUN point of view everybody is ranting and raving about Emirates. Zambian's are happy to not have to deal with SA or BA anymore. I heard lots on stories in July about free upgrades or being allowed up to the bar on the A380.

I still wish EK would get to Botswana - Gaborone!!!

Topolino Sep 7, 2012 2:28 am

Taipei (Taiwan)?


Any chance for Emirates to fly Dubai - Taipei (Taiwan)? :confused
Qatar is not flying to Taiwan too.
I'm sure it would work. No more connecting flights with other airlines in HK.
Emirates direct to Taipei or technical stopover in HK ... would be cool.

Tim(HAM) Sep 7, 2012 11:33 am


Originally Posted by robef (Post 19252337)
Thanks for that... expertflyer seat map seems to show most forthcoming flights as 73W which might be misleading as http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emira...eet-guide.html indicates 73W only applies to A6-EBB/EBI/EBK and it can't always be those three! I think it might be a provisional code as I've seen them change to 73V

I agree, often it even stays 73W till the very end despite actually sporting ICE Digital Widescreen (experienced on DXB-CPT). There are only very few routes (some of the LGW flights e.g.) being advertised as ICE Digital Widescreen from the beginning and hence as 73V on expertflyer from the start until an actual aircraft is selected about 24-48 hrs prior to the flight for all the remaining flights when it changes from 73W to 73V

ekafra Sep 7, 2012 2:06 pm

emirates to boston!
 
i belive emirates will soon announce to operating fligh to boston on march 2013 and after that ORD AND NEXT TO BE MIAMI, emirates going to announce every year 3 usa destination.

in terms of market penetartion , emirates can play significant role in boston .

we have alote of student from INDIA , PAKISTAN , CHINA , KOREA AND IRAN .
wiche emirates can dominante market within 6 month .

average seat factore load is not going less than 80% .i am sure emirates targeting boston and is going to be first golf careers operates boston.

Zol Sep 8, 2012 6:08 am

Emirates to Expand Codeshare Service with JetBlue to Mexico & The Caribbean
 
JetBlue has issued application to the US Department of Transportation, seeking permission to expand codeshare coverage with Emirates to Mexico and the Caribbean. Emirates plans to display its “EK” code on following JetBlue routes as early as 01JAN13:

New York JFK – Barbados
New York JFK – Cancun
New York JFK – Punta Cana
New York JFK – Santiago (Dominican Republic)
New York JFK – Santo Domingo

airlineroute.net

jimyvr Sep 8, 2012 8:27 am


Originally Posted by ekafra (Post 19272775)
i belive emirates will soon announce to operating fligh to boston on march 2013 and after that ORD AND NEXT TO BE MIAMI, emirates going to announce every year 3 usa destination.

in terms of market penetartion , emirates can play significant role in boston .

we have alote of student from INDIA , PAKISTAN , CHINA , KOREA AND IRAN .
wiche emirates can dominante market within 6 month .

average seat factore load is not going less than 80% .i am sure emirates targeting boston and is going to be first golf careers operates boston.

is that a wishlist/prediction or fact?

adambisi Sep 8, 2012 9:23 am


Originally Posted by ekafra (Post 19272775)
i belive emirates will soon announce to operating fligh to boston on march 2013 and after that ORD AND NEXT TO BE MIAMI, emirates going to announce every year 3 usa destination.

in terms of market penetartion , emirates can play significant role in boston .

we have alote of student from INDIA , PAKISTAN , CHINA , KOREA AND IRAN .
wiche emirates can dominante market within 6 month .

average seat factore load is not going less than 80% .i am sure emirates targeting boston and is going to be first golf careers operates boston.

We have a lot of Chinese and Korean students and employees as well in our institutes of higher education and hospitals but North Asia would not be a good option for connecting in Dubai for many U.S. Markets- EK only serves 3 destinations in China (PEK, PVG, CAN) and you would add up to 3000 miles to your trip connecting in DXB versus EWR for example:

BOS-DXB-PEK versus BOS-EWR-PEK

We'll never know about the loads until it starts for sure but for starters they will be competing for the 30,000 people travelling BOS-BOM each year. Massport, the governing body that runs BOS stated that the city pair had 31,188 travelers between July 2009 to June 2010. I'd be curious to know how many of those will pay to sit in the front of the plane.

ung1 Sep 9, 2012 1:49 am


Originally Posted by adambisi (Post 19276933)
We have a lot of Chinese and Korean students and employees as well in our institutes of higher education and hospitals but North Asia would not be a good option for connecting in Dubai for many U.S. Markets- EK only serves 3 destinations in China (PEK, PVG, CAN) and you would add up to 3000 miles to your trip connecting in DXB versus EWR for example:

BOS-DXB-PEK versus BOS-EWR-PEK

We'll never know about the loads until it starts for sure but for starters they will be competing for the 30,000 people travelling BOS-BOM each year. Massport, the governing body that runs BOS stated that the city pair had 31,188 travelers between July 2009 to June 2010. I'd be curious to know how many of those will pay to sit in the front of the plane.

It's not like students care about an extra 3000 miles if the ticket is cheaper, and it's not like a route is sustainable just because of students. Someone needs to fill those J/F seats ex-BOS, and EK must know who those people are.

jimyvr Sep 9, 2012 11:37 pm

DXB JED From 28OCT12, service increases from 18 to 21 weekly

DXB SEZ From 01DEC12, service increases from 11 to 12 weekly, followed by 13th weekly from 05FEB13


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