May 10, 2013, 5:50 am
New routes / extra frequencies to and from TLV - all airlines
Jul 9, 2015, 11:53 am
#1021
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Per airlineroute.net, Germania is now following suit with VDA-DUS flights (note that in the post for FR, the airport code incorrectly refers to ETH rather than VDA):
http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/09/fr-eth-w15/
http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/09/st-vda-w15/
http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/09/fr-eth-w15/
Ryanair starting November 2015 will begin service to Israel, initially operating service from Budapest, Kaunas and Krakow, to Eilat/Ovda. The airline plans to operate these routes twice weekly each, with following operational schedule.
eff 05NOV15 Kaunas – Eilat/Ovda
FR2618 KUN0700 – 1140ETH 738 47
FR2619 ETH1215 – 1640KUN 738 47
eff 07NOV15 Budapest – Eilat/Ovda
FR2620 BUD1100 – 1550ETH 738 6
FR2620 BUD1135 – 1625ETH 738 3
FR2621 ETH1625 – 1905BUD 738 6
FR2621 ETH1700 – 1940BUD 738 3
eff 07NOV15 Krakow – Eilat/Ovda
FR2616 KRK0800 – 1250ETH 738 26
FR2617 ETH1315 – 1605KRK 738 26
eff 05NOV15 Kaunas – Eilat/Ovda
FR2618 KUN0700 – 1140ETH 738 47
FR2619 ETH1215 – 1640KUN 738 47
eff 07NOV15 Budapest – Eilat/Ovda
FR2620 BUD1100 – 1550ETH 738 6
FR2620 BUD1135 – 1625ETH 738 3
FR2621 ETH1625 – 1905BUD 738 6
FR2621 ETH1700 – 1940BUD 738 3
eff 07NOV15 Krakow – Eilat/Ovda
FR2616 KRK0800 – 1250ETH 738 26
FR2617 ETH1315 – 1605KRK 738 26
Germania in winter season plans to introduce a new route to Israel, as the airline schedules 2 weekly Dusseldorf – Eilat/Ovda operation. This route is scheduled to be operated by Boeing 737-700, starting 02NOV15.
ST4992 DUS0700 – 1235VDA 73G 14
ST4993 VDA1305 – 1720DUS 73G 14
ST4992 DUS0700 – 1235VDA 73G 14
ST4993 VDA1305 – 1720DUS 73G 14
Jul 9, 2015, 1:04 pm
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Jul 9, 2015, 3:15 pm
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Jul 9, 2015, 5:53 pm
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Jul 16, 2015, 3:06 pm
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Not sure if this means ANA will start flying to TLV or if it will just be an LY codeshare, but it's encouraging. Didn't LY used to fly to Tokyo?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nonstop...kyo-announced/
Now, just waiting for Cathay to start flying to HKG...
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nonstop...kyo-announced/
Now, just waiting for Cathay to start flying to HKG...
Jul 16, 2015, 6:09 pm
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I wonder how 14 weekly flights will be viable is there were only 13,000 travelers from Japan last year. Unless NH will offer connections from the USA...
ETA: Ynet has more details. Thus far it sounds like effectively an Open Skies agreement. It remains to be seen whether any airline feels such a route is viable. At a guess I would thibk it would at least start as a thrice weekly route, similar to KE's ICN flight.
ETA: Ynet has more details. Thus far it sounds like effectively an Open Skies agreement. It remains to be seen whether any airline feels such a route is viable. At a guess I would thibk it would at least start as a thrice weekly route, similar to KE's ICN flight.
Aug 11, 2015, 3:00 pm
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Seems like ZB (Monarch) is returning to the TLV-LON route
three weekly flights.
Also offering weekly LON-VDA.
source (hebrew): http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4689727,00.html
Also offering weekly LON-VDA.
source (hebrew): http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4689727,00.html
Aug 11, 2015, 10:35 pm
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I really hope they open the new Eilat airport on time in 2017 before all these airlines decide VDA is a stupid destination and pull out of the market.
Aug 20, 2015, 10:37 am
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Not official yet but seems credible enough to discuss:
AA to End PHL-TLV
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6478798/
Not discussed there yet is the possible effect TK had on this route. I assume it has a similar effect on LY on TLV-USA, although the loyal LY flyers, especially with it being TK will not bail
Hope we are not seeing a start of everyone leaving, with DL downgauging and AA possibly exiting.
Edit: Now also on FT
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...v-service.html
AA to End PHL-TLV
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6478798/
Not discussed there yet is the possible effect TK had on this route. I assume it has a similar effect on LY on TLV-USA, although the loyal LY flyers, especially with it being TK will not bail
Hope we are not seeing a start of everyone leaving, with DL downgauging and AA possibly exiting.
Edit: Now also on FT
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...v-service.html
Aug 21, 2015, 7:55 pm
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Not official yet but seems credible enough to discuss:
AA to End PHL-TLV
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6478798/
Not discussed there yet is the possible effect TK had on this route. I assume it has a similar effect on LY on TLV-USA, although the loyal LY flyers, especially with it being TK will not bail
AA to End PHL-TLV
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6478798/
Not discussed there yet is the possible effect TK had on this route. I assume it has a similar effect on LY on TLV-USA, although the loyal LY flyers, especially with it being TK will not bail
that AA realizes that it can push partners onto its joint-venture partners, BA & IA, and make the same money. Actually more because they won't have their bird sitting ideal all day long at TLV nor have the security costs at PHL;
Passengers dislike connecting at PHL, even more than at LHR. With US it was the only choice. But now with the AA merger, passengers to/from other than PHL can fly nonstop from 22 different cities to LHR and connect there.
US/AA/BA now run 4x day PHL-LHR.
I also wonder what impact all the Iran deal talk might have on the market. Those worried about the deal thinking it won't be as safe to travel to Israel; those in favor of the deal perplexed by the efforts of Israel & Aipac to derail the deal. Plus general economic fears these days too.
It could also be the case that AA had wanted to move the PHL-TLV route to NYC or ORD but figured out they couldn't fill the seats.
Aug 21, 2015, 10:00 pm
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TK does not serve PHL. It is more likely:
that AA realizes that it can push partners onto its joint-venture partners, BA & IA, and make the same money. Actually more because they won't have their bird sitting ideal all day long at TLV nor have the security costs at PHL;
Passengers dislike connecting at PHL, even more than at LHR. With US it was the only choice. But now with the AA merger, passengers to/from other than PHL can fly nonstop from 22 different cities to LHR and connect there.
US/AA/BA now run 4x day PHL-LHR.
I also wonder what impact all the Iran deal talk might have on the market. Those worried about the deal thinking it won't be as safe to travel to Israel; those in favor of the deal perplexed by the efforts of Israel & Aipac to derail the deal. Plus general economic fears these days too.
It could also be the case that AA had wanted to move the PHL-TLV route to NYC or ORD but figured out they couldn't fill the seats.
that AA realizes that it can push partners onto its joint-venture partners, BA & IA, and make the same money. Actually more because they won't have their bird sitting ideal all day long at TLV nor have the security costs at PHL;
Passengers dislike connecting at PHL, even more than at LHR. With US it was the only choice. But now with the AA merger, passengers to/from other than PHL can fly nonstop from 22 different cities to LHR and connect there.
US/AA/BA now run 4x day PHL-LHR.
I also wonder what impact all the Iran deal talk might have on the market. Those worried about the deal thinking it won't be as safe to travel to Israel; those in favor of the deal perplexed by the efforts of Israel & Aipac to derail the deal. Plus general economic fears these days too.
It could also be the case that AA had wanted to move the PHL-TLV route to NYC or ORD but figured out they couldn't fill the seats.
Aug 21, 2015, 10:13 pm
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are we still seriously beating this dead horse?