Emotional Support Animals, Service Dogs and Comfort Pets: The Definitive Thread
May 27, 2017, 12:55 pm
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If Delta did not charge such a high fee for traveling with a pet in the cabin (a pet who fits in a carrier that fits underneath the seat in front of you), this would solve a lot of the issues. For Delta to charge $250 r/t to bring a 5 or 10 pound pet on board, and for that pet to replace one's free carry on, is nothing but an invitation for people to find ways to sneak around that.
If DL needs to charge a $25 administrative fee or something to register that there is a pet on board, fine.
If DL needs to charge a $25 administrative fee or something to register that there is a pet on board, fine.
May 27, 2017, 1:26 pm
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Any animal not in a carrier on DL is either a service animal or an emotional support animal. Pets must stay in containers on board.
May 27, 2017, 1:32 pm
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However, the ACA does permit different documentation rules to verify service animal versus emotional support animal. Not calling them all service animals would seem to be the first step in reminding agents to at least check the required documentation for emotional support animals very carefully. Let's start by trying to make sure that the scammers remember to pay fees to the internet psychologists as often as possible and if the paperwork is out of date or otherwise deficient, the animal doesn't fly (with possible mercy shown to veterans).
May 27, 2017, 1:35 pm
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I disagree. The people who complain ESAs on-board will complain whether the animals are just pets, or ESAs. If cabin pets are cheaper, there will be even more animals on-board.
There isn't much to do here.
1. Get familiar with the CFR that binds hands of air carriers. It's clear many posters have not.
2. Write your congress(person).
3. Learn to live with it until the DOT (through rulemaking) or Congress changes it.
There isn't much to do here.
1. Get familiar with the CFR that binds hands of air carriers. It's clear many posters have not.
2. Write your congress(person).
3. Learn to live with it until the DOT (through rulemaking) or Congress changes it.
I have no problem with pets in the cabin.
I do have a problem with ESA's.
May 27, 2017, 3:23 pm
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It seems clear that the ga was not going to let the passenger board with the pet until the outpouring of tears. Perhaps the combo made an earlier flight with no restrictions and so was distraught of being sidelined, but I am guessing here.
May 27, 2017, 3:57 pm
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If pets aren't a problem, then why object to a vet's pet?
Pets are ok, but not people who suffer from disabilities? Disabilities that can be treated by traveling with their pet?
May 27, 2017, 4:02 pm
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Emotional support animals are pets. Their humans just happen to suffer from emotional or mental disabilities. Some of them are honorably discharged veterans suffering from PTSD and their pet lab helps them remain calm and allows them to travel.
If pets aren't a problem, then why object to a vet's pet?
Pets are ok, but not people who suffer from disabilities? Disabilities that can be treated by traveling with their pet?
If pets aren't a problem, then why object to a vet's pet?
Pets are ok, but not people who suffer from disabilities? Disabilities that can be treated by traveling with their pet?
I have an issue with people getting ESA who don't have a legitimate medical condition.
May 27, 2017, 5:12 pm
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However, the ACA does permit different documentation rules to verify service animal versus emotional support animal. Not calling them all service animals would seem to be the first step in reminding agents to at least check the required documentation for emotional support animals very carefully. Let's start by trying to make sure that the scammers remember to pay fees to the internet psychologists as often as possible and if the paperwork is out of date or otherwise deficient, the animal doesn't fly (with possible mercy shown to veterans).
May 27, 2017, 11:14 pm
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Are pax able to purchase two seats so that a larger pet can comfortably fly with them in the cabin? If not, I think this should be allowed. Flying a pet as cargo is cruel.
May 28, 2017, 5:56 am
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I think that owners should be required to purchase a second seat once the pet reaches a certain size.
May 28, 2017, 8:39 am
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Agreed. However, DL regulations (or is this DOA?) require that all animals, except service animals/ESA's, travel in a carrier that can under the seat in front of you. This is probably another reason why some pax feel that they need to ESA letter, because it is the only way to bring the pet in the cabin.
May 28, 2017, 11:27 am
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May 28, 2017, 12:11 pm
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May 28, 2017, 12:15 pm
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