Emotional Support Animals, Service Dogs and Comfort Pets: The Definitive Thread
Jun 4, 2017, 11:18 pm
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/258862347-story
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There's already an active thread about the story.
Jun 4, 2017, 11:20 pm
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I just flew with my 7lb “ESA” maltese for the first time.
I spent $180 for a letter from one of the therapy dog websites. Price was $150 +$30 for getting it in 24 hours.
While I have always been against animals (exception service dogs) on planes I was not about to spend $125 x 6 over the next 2 months for a dog the size of a toiletry bag.
He slept in my lap on 4 of 5 segments and passengers commented that they didn’t know he was on the plane when we were de-boarding (he was in the carrier during boarding). One passenger asked if I drugged him because he literally didn’t move for 3 hours. I was afraid he might start making noise if I left him in the carrier the whole time.
Charging $125 each way for a dog to sit in a carrier under my seat or sleep on my lap seems excessive. I would be in favor of eliminating ESA completely but I sure as heck wasn’t about to shell out a bunch of cash while everyone else freerolls.
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If a pet can fit in a carrier under the seat I think it should count as the personal item. Or charge a more reasonable fee of say $25-$50 each way.
I spent $180 for a letter from one of the therapy dog websites. Price was $150 +$30 for getting it in 24 hours.
While I have always been against animals (exception service dogs) on planes I was not about to spend $125 x 6 over the next 2 months for a dog the size of a toiletry bag.
He slept in my lap on 4 of 5 segments and passengers commented that they didn’t know he was on the plane when we were de-boarding (he was in the carrier during boarding). One passenger asked if I drugged him because he literally didn’t move for 3 hours. I was afraid he might start making noise if I left him in the carrier the whole time.
Charging $125 each way for a dog to sit in a carrier under my seat or sleep on my lap seems excessive. I would be in favor of eliminating ESA completely but I sure as heck wasn’t about to shell out a bunch of cash while everyone else freerolls.
If you cant beat em join em!
If a pet can fit in a carrier under the seat I think it should count as the personal item. Or charge a more reasonable fee of say $25-$50 each way.
To me, what you did is like requesting a wheelchair so you can go to the front of the security line and board first.
Safe travels.
Jun 4, 2017, 11:23 pm
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/258862347-story
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Jun 4, 2017, 11:27 pm
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Jun 5, 2017, 8:53 am
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/258862347-story
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Jun 5, 2017, 9:07 am
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If it's an ESA I don't understand why they can't require the pet to fly in carrier if it's small enough and if it's a large dog required it be muzzled.
If it's a service animal the dog is going to be trained properly. If it's a pet that is truly an ESA why would the passenger have an issue having a large dog muzzled or a smaller pet in a carrier? The pet is still with them and in the case of a dog will serve it's purpose as an ESA just as well muzzled as not muzzled.
If it's a service animal the dog is going to be trained properly. If it's a pet that is truly an ESA why would the passenger have an issue having a large dog muzzled or a smaller pet in a carrier? The pet is still with them and in the case of a dog will serve it's purpose as an ESA just as well muzzled as not muzzled.
Jun 5, 2017, 9:28 am
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/258862347-story
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Jun 5, 2017, 9:33 am
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If the owner is asking whether the dog *should* be put to sleep, I suspect this isn't the dog's first bite or attack. It sounds like the owner was aware of a viscous tendency, which then makes one ask why the owner had the dog in public without it being effectively under control. In the close quarters of an aricraft, a leash would not have been enough. IANAL but there could be a big liability issue too.
Jun 5, 2017, 9:35 am
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I have no doubt that there are some folks who truly need an ESA. Probably a small subset of all those claiming the need.
Regrettably, they are going to be inconvenienced when the airlines are finally forced to crack down on the abusers.
Another case of the bad folks making things tougher for the good folks.
Regrettably, they are going to be inconvenienced when the airlines are finally forced to crack down on the abusers.
Another case of the bad folks making things tougher for the good folks.
Jun 5, 2017, 10:17 am
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I have no doubt that there are some folks who truly need an ESA. Probably a small subset of all those claiming the need.
Regrettably, they are going to be inconvenienced when the airlines are finally forced to crack down on the abusers.
Another case of the bad folks making things tougher for the good folks.
Regrettably, they are going to be inconvenienced when the airlines are finally forced to crack down on the abusers.
Another case of the bad folks making things tougher for the good folks.
Jun 5, 2017, 10:43 am
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No reason a dog especially one that sounds like is actually an ESA should be put down unless its a true danger of repeating.
Jun 5, 2017, 11:00 am
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FWIW, the link above is to ATL's local FOX affiliate, and the reporter (Nathalie Pozo) is one of their local reporters. She also does stuff like gas station robberies, water meter issues, bridge collapses on major interstates, etc.
Yes, there's an affiliation, but in this instance, it'd be fair to treat this a little differently than the national cable version of Fox News. </omni>
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While I agree that putting the dog down is a bit extreme, the fact remains that a dog injured another person. The dog's owner is responsible for the dogs actions and behavior, trained or not. Thus, there should at least be consequences here for the owner.
Yes, there's an affiliation, but in this instance, it'd be fair to treat this a little differently than the national cable version of Fox News. </omni>
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While I agree that putting the dog down is a bit extreme, the fact remains that a dog injured another person. The dog's owner is responsible for the dogs actions and behavior, trained or not. Thus, there should at least be consequences here for the owner.
Jun 5, 2017, 11:03 am
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We dont even know if kt was provoked. It seems highly unlikely that both police would allow and Delta would accept the dog flying out on another flight otherwise.
No reason a dog especially one that sounds like is actually an ESA should be put down unless its a true danger of repeating.
No reason a dog especially one that sounds like is actually an ESA should be put down unless its a true danger of repeating.
Jun 5, 2017, 11:35 am
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If it's an ESA I don't understand why they can't require the pet to fly in carrier if it's small enough and if it's a large dog required it be muzzled.
If it's a service animal the dog is going to be trained properly. If it's a pet that is truly an ESA why would the passenger have an issue having a large dog muzzled or a smaller pet in a carrier? The pet is still with them and in the case of a dog will serve it's purpose as an ESA just as well muzzled as not muzzled.
If it's a service animal the dog is going to be trained properly. If it's a pet that is truly an ESA why would the passenger have an issue having a large dog muzzled or a smaller pet in a carrier? The pet is still with them and in the case of a dog will serve it's purpose as an ESA just as well muzzled as not muzzled.