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Hartmann Jul 16, 2009 11:34 am
Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12076486)
I thought most of Western EU was self-funded though, no?
Western Europe transit is funded through fares (which rise without an increase in ridership in some cases) and through government $$. At least that's how I understand it.

rolov Jul 16, 2009 11:37 am
Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12076513)
:rolleyes:
:-:

Olton Hall Jul 16, 2009 11:39 am
Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12076486)
I know, but the gap is pretty substantial. I have no problem subsidizing part of it. But, when people moan about a $0.25 increase on PATH while all the other rates are going up at dollars is ridiculous IMHO.



I thought most of Western EU was self-funded though, no?
You should see how much to the MTA bridge and tunnel tolls go to NYCTA.
Western EU is about 80% tax payer. They claim 100% operation cost but that's nothing compared to the cost of equipment and maintaining the system. In the UK, Network Rail is responsible for the infrastructure and Stations (except St. Pancras). In London, TFL is responsible for the rail and station but someone else runs the trains. It's a gian mess to be honest with the government taking over the operation of trains between London and Scottland the other week from National Express.

Xyzzy Jul 16, 2009 11:42 am
Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12076415)
Did you know that the PATH runs in the red by millions of dollars? So, in short, people crossing the bridges, tunnels and parking at the airport are funding the commute for all those riders. That just annoys me greatly.
I've known that for years. The bridges and tunnels are used to fund a whole range of stuff. Robert Moses perfected this kind of scheme a long time ago.

gbryan84 Jul 16, 2009 11:43 am
How much does the MTA pay those non-english speaking morons behind the booths at the subway stations? I heard they got paid $20+ an hour but it could have just been a rumor. IMO those people are worthless and it makes me mad when I see them sitting in their booth yelling at people that dont know how to use the card machines. Get out of your effing booth and help them:mad::mad::mad:

belynch Jul 16, 2009 11:44 am
Originally Posted by rolov (Post 12076111)
What time is your flug ?
2:rolleyes:3:rolleyes:.

Flight comes in from GSP. I believe it's returning from Halifax as we speak. :rolleyes:

colpuck Jul 16, 2009 11:47 am
Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12076508)
I'm sure jrzyshawn will appreciate this: http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/07...earing-on.html

McFarlane, that's awful close to Farva

http://www.predictify.com/nonstatic_...aits/Farva.jpg
Hilarious, but I think both people on the call are idiots.

rolov Jul 16, 2009 11:49 am
Originally Posted by belynch (Post 12076575)
2:rolleyes:3:rolleyes:.

Flight comes in from GSP. I believe it's returning from Halifax as we speak. :rolleyes:
Ill look out my window and look for it.

Hartmann Jul 16, 2009 11:49 am
Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12076594)
Hilarious, but I think both people on the call are idiots.
+1

Olton Hall Jul 16, 2009 11:50 am
Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 12076570)
How much does the MTA pay those non-english speaking morons behind the booths at the subway stations? I heard they got paid $20+ an hour but it could have just been a rumor. IMO those people are worthless and it makes me mad when I see them sitting in their booth yelling at people that dont know how to use the card machines. Get out of your effing booth and help them:mad::mad::mad:
The booth people get about $20K a year so it's not any $20/hour. They aren't allowed to leave the booth since it's considered a cash vault and there's a long history of people robbing them. That's part of the reason they've eliminated so many of them. As for the machines, they aren't programmed properly. They are set up to sell anything but a Metrocard. That's programing and not the machines them selves since that system is used world wide.

Steph3n Jul 16, 2009 11:51 am
Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12076594)
Hilarious, but I think both people on the call are idiots.
I saw this a couple weeks ago and think the same.

fozz Jul 16, 2009 11:51 am
Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12076548)
You should see how much to the MTA bridge and tunnel tolls go to NYCTA.
Western EU is about 80% tax payer. They claim 100% operation cost but that's nothing compared to the cost of equipment and maintaining the system. In the UK, Network Rail is responsible for the infrastructure and Stations (except St. Pancras). In London, TFL is responsible for the rail and station but someone else runs the trains. It's a gian mess to be honest with the government taking over the operation of trains between London and Scottland the other week from National Express.
You learn something new every day. :)

colpuck Jul 16, 2009 11:52 am
according to google maps, it will take 194 days to walk from SYD to LAX.

belynch Jul 16, 2009 11:56 am
Hey gbryan did you ever get the bump last weekend?

gbryan84 Jul 16, 2009 11:58 am
Originally Posted by belynch (Post 12076636)
Hey gbryan did you ever get the bump last weekend?
Yes sir, $300.


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