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icurhere2 Jul 12, 2009 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12055191)
Why Planes Crash will be on MSNBC at 10 PM EDT.

I'm about to watch "Inside Death Row" on National Geographic ...

monitor Jul 12, 2009 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12055324)
Huh?

CO can decide whatever it wants in terms of what the rewards will cost in terms of miles for the various regions/rewards in the 3 classes of service. It is highly unlikely that they'll keep the front cabin award to Europe at 100K, for example.

There is no alliance-wide rule on the number of miles for various rewards.

There is if you are offering the award on another Alliance carrier. That is what the *A chart is all about. Therefore, writing their own chart is pretty much what UA has done and US has not. US fights this by not offering many of its own seats but the partner flights are widely available. UA just does not show the partner flights that it does not care to offer. If that is what CO will do, then that is what I have been referring to as "filtering."

sbm12 Jul 12, 2009 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 12055342)
There is if you are offering the award on another Alliance carrier. That is what the *A chart is all about. Therefore, writing their own chart is pretty much what UA has done and US has not. US fights this by not offering many of its own seats but the partner flights are widely available. UA just does not show the partner flights that it does not care to offer. If that is what CO will do, then that is what I have been referring to as "filtering."

Then explain how BD has a completely different reward scheme than US or UA does. Even at straight miles the numbers are all different across the board. For North America to the Middle East the numbers are:
UA - 75K/115K/145K
US - 80K/120K/180K
BD - 80K/120K/160K

LH is at the same levels as US so I can see where there is some consistency in some cases but it does not seem as though there are strict requirements across the alliance in that regard. As for the "filtering" that UA does it has nothing to do with their reward levels and everything to do with the way that they display *Net inventory to their agents.

monitor Jul 12, 2009 7:18 pm

I guess there have been some changes in the three years since I left US but they were changes that I was never subjected to as I cashed out my *A miles strictly in accordance with the award chart. All that the new levels employed by some carriers does is reinforce my perception of Dividend Miles being more valuable than those from Mileage Plus and now, it seems, more valuable than those of BD. I also believe that most of the other * carriers adhere to that chart since I have found premium class awards on LH, SQ, OS, OZ, NZ, and in the past year on AC and UA all at the numbers set forth on that chart.

My thesis still remains that if CO treats OP miles the same way that US treats its DMs, the OP miles will be worth much more than they are right now.

kingalien Jul 12, 2009 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by KNRG (Post 12055135)
Omg..

www.woot.com

They sold 50,000 pairs of Woot Off lights for $3 with $5 shipping. Of those, only 1/10 of the folks who purchased will recieve a "bag of crap" which could be a big screen TV or just a sticker - and that will be determined by the dow jones industrial's last digit on monday night corresponding to the last digit of an order number (I'm a 2, in case anyone has any sway with the jones).

Just blows my mind that woot.com is so successful.

Edit to add: They had 17,000 orders in the first hour from 12am to 1am central time.

Well they do call their buyers "suckers." They occasionally have something worthwhile but most things they sell are crap.

KNRG Jul 12, 2009 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by kingalien (Post 12055475)
Well they do call their buyers "suckers." They occasionally have something worthwhile but most things they sell are crap.

iRobot gutter cleaners are most certainly not crap :)

Steve GadFly Jul 12, 2009 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 12052192)
I'm sure that scenario you described happens every so often. I"m traveling quite a bit this summer, so I'll see if I can make a show some time!:cool:

That would be ^. I'll keep posting gigs when I get the chance.


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 12052192)
Also, I recall that you mentioned about seeing '9 to 5' -- I know one of the actors, so it would be fun to see the show. I'd be game if a group wants to go!

Heck yeah! Do you know if the shows are sold out in advance or if two-fer's are available at TKTS?


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 12053856)
Good to hear the gig went well. Do you ever do any in Manhattan or somewhere I could get to using public transportation?

Sorry....no Manhattan gigs since most places only hire bands that play original music and/or don't pay enough to deal with the :rolleyes: of parking and unloading gear in the middle of the city. The place in Woodbridge that we played on Friday shares a parking lot with the NJ Transit Woodbridge station (even had some NY friends come down) so that's probably the easist for the Manhattan non-car crowd. Other places we play could be a train ride and cab to/from the bar. If enough people are coming to the same gig and it turns into a mini-do, you may even be able to catch a ride with someone.

ConciergeMike Jul 12, 2009 8:22 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 12055438)
I guess there have been some changes in the three years since I left US but they were changes that I was never subjected to as I cashed out my *A miles strictly in accordance with the award chart. All that the new levels employed by some carriers does is reinforce my perception of Dividend Miles being more valuable than those from Mileage Plus and now, it seems, more valuable than those of BD. I also believe that most of the other * carriers adhere to that chart since I have found premium class awards on LH, SQ, OS, OZ, NZ, and in the past year on AC and UA all at the numbers set forth on that chart.

My thesis still remains that if CO treats OP miles the same way that US treats its DMs, the OP miles will be worth much more than they are right now.

It's a sad commentary that Dividend Miles still have the value they do for some things, because the airline runs a real risk of not existing and those valuable miles disappearing.

I think OP miles are going to rise in value no matter what; the question is how much they will rise.

kingalien Jul 12, 2009 8:31 pm

Entourage is starting.

monitor Jul 12, 2009 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12055627)
It's a sad commentary that Dividend Miles still have the value they do for some things, because the airline runs a real risk of not existing and those valuable miles disappearing...

I don't disagree and just have burned another 60 or 70K for two Trans-Tasmans on NZ later on this year. I guess that I am now down to about my last 30K, probably almost enough for one domestic FC ticket if I need it.

However, I do believe that US will outlast UA which will soon be entering its death throes.

ConciergeMike Jul 12, 2009 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 12055672)
However, I do believe that US will outlast UA which will soon be entering its death throes.

I'm with you there, and maybe a year ago I would have disagreed with this. Whether or not it's deserved, US is somehow managing to survive.

colpuck Jul 12, 2009 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12055699)
I'm with you there, and maybe a year ago I would have disagreed with this. Whether or not it's deserved, US is somehow managing to survive.

US has better management than UA, and that says a lot.

Scott6067 Jul 12, 2009 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12055050)
just got out of the Boeing factory tour, and the "museum" attached to it. Very cool, I sneaked my camera into the tour, but I didn't take any pictures. (I wimped out)

That is a cool tour. How many 787s did they have out on the line?

Last week they had the one in Boeing colors and the one in ANA colors.

monitor Jul 12, 2009 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12055725)
US has better management than UA, and that says a lot.

With all of his warts, Parker is still head and shoulders above that clown show that runs UA.

kingalien Jul 12, 2009 9:04 pm

Entourage was great as usual and Emmanuelle Chriqui is as cute as ever.

Cool line: "Only 6% body fat. And 94% full of sh**." :D


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