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rkkwan Jun 2, 2009 10:56 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11844097)
Do any of the resident Box photographers have any 58mm or 67mm diameter lenses? I have not used my Hoya filter kits in many moons and would rather see them go to a known good home than on eBay.

I have one lens of each. But I don't use filters except for my dust-sucking Canon 17-55IS. So, hope you can find another home for them.


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11846900)
So, I just noticed that HNL-NAN is 3,162 miles and NAN-GUM is 3,094.

From what Scott mentioned on the podcast, CO isn't prepared to fly a 738 that distance, nor do I think a 738 has that kind of legs, hence why they had to wait until the 739ER for LAX-HNL.

Strange, as IAH-ANC was longer.

COFreqFlyer Jun 2, 2009 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by jrzyshawn (Post 11844996)
Boeing 767-200ER on sale for the low, low price of €177,575,462

Range: 7,658
Engines: GE CF6-80C2B7F

That's the one I could buy new for €150,141,131, right? ;)

Goodnight, b:rolleyes:x. I get to drive back to Denver tomorrow. Woo.

fozz Jun 2, 2009 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 11847479)

Strange, as IAH-ANC was longer.

He said it was related to ETOPS for the LAX-HNL. I forgot about IAH-ANC, so I guess it does have the legs, just not the ETOPS legs.

COFreqFlyer Jun 2, 2009 11:58 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11847643)
He said it was related to ETOPS for the LAX-HNL. I forgot about IAH-ANC, so I guess it does have the legs, just not the ETOPS legs.

Difference is the route would be operated using the Air Mike 738s, which are already certified to the higher ETOPS standards than the US domestic ones, and thus would be able to make that hop ETOPS-legally.

Just double-checked the stuff... LAX-HNL would require 180min ETOPS certification. HNL-NAN-GUM can technically be operated under 120min ETOPS, but the 138min ETOPS rule gives a little bonus to that. Hopefully someone could clarify, but the US Domestic 738s I think are only good for 60min or 90min ETOPS max, thus why you wouldn't see them on the long overwater flights. The Air Mike 738s, conversely, are rated for the higher limit, not sure if they're 138min or 180min. As an aside, 138min ETOPS is all that is required for TATL operations.

And this time, really, goodnight box. :cool:

belynch Jun 3, 2009 5:15 am

Morning Box. :rolleyes:

Global conference calls are :rolleyes:. Line at Dunkin' preventing me from grabbing coffee before said call is really :rolleyes:.

Shaping up to be a :rolleyes: day.

:rolleyes:

belynch Jun 3, 2009 5:26 am

Poo. SAV is an e-saver from CO this weekend.

Too bad I'm already going somewhere.

It's lonely in the box. *poke* *poke*

unkfrank Jun 3, 2009 5:34 am

Morning box.


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11848290)
Poo. SAV is an e-saver from CO this weekend.

Too bad I'm already going somewhere.

It's lonely in the box. *poke* *poke*

:rolleyes:w! :rolleyes:w!

And thanks for starting the day with a poop reference and taking the pressure off ;)

belynch Jun 3, 2009 5:38 am


Originally Posted by unkfrank (Post 11848305)
and taking the pressure off ;)

No problem.

Guess I shouldn't have eaten that fiber muffin... :rolleyes:

unkfrank Jun 3, 2009 5:44 am

A Moving Question
 
Anyone use a company for a long distance, small load move? Having finally sold my parent's house to basically finish the estate proceedings, I have a small amount of things to move with me to FL, about a large bedroom's worth of furniture and boxes. Does anyone have any experience/suggestions for doing the moving? I could fit everything I need to take into a cargo trailer, but Uhaul won't rent one to be towed by a Jeep w/ a soft-top, and I don't have anyone up here to borrow one from (besides, getting it back would be a :rolleyes: ) I've priced out renting a truck and towing the Jeep, but it is basically identical to a few companies I've looked at, so if I'm going to drive anyway I might as well drive my own vehicle, put the top down and enjoy the ride.

kingalien Jun 3, 2009 5:59 am

Good morning Box.

sbm12 Jun 3, 2009 5:59 am


Originally Posted by COFreqFlyer (Post 11847012)
Plan on TKK as a dive stop. I managed to get the GUM-TKK line on the map back in the early 90s when dad and I went out there to dive. Definitely worth the visit, lots of history there.

Indeed, that would be the stop. I did ROR on the honeymoon and so TKK is naturally the highest priority for a dive in that region now.

Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 11847479)
Strange, as IAH-ANC was longer.

But not over water and they can always tech stop half way in SEA.

Originally Posted by COFreqFlyer (Post 11847659)
Difference is the route would be operated using the Air Mike 738s, which are already certified to the higher ETOPS standards than the US domestic ones, and thus would be able to make that hop ETOPS-legally.

Just double-checked the stuff... LAX-HNL would require 180min ETOPS certification. HNL-NAN-GUM can technically be operated under 120min ETOPS, but the 138min ETOPS rule gives a little bonus to that. Hopefully someone could clarify, but the US Domestic 738s I think are only good for 60min or 90min ETOPS max, thus why you wouldn't see them on the long overwater flights. The Air Mike 738s, conversely, are rated for the higher limit, not sure if they're 138min or 180min. As an aside, 138min ETOPS is all that is required for TATL operations.

And this time, really, goodnight box. :cool:

My understanding (limited from the Ops tour at Do III, I think) is that the whole fleet gets the same ETOPS rating. And CO does 180 ETOPS because that is what is needed for many of the routes, including the HNL flights.

The NAN flights bring up an interesting issue in this regard but the only thing I can think of is that either the winds are much more favorable out there, some of the random specks on the map have runways and make CO feel more comfortable about it or that they will use the 73E. The last is the least likely, IMO.

colpuck Jun 3, 2009 6:03 am

Good morning box. It is time for some bright and early rolleyes.

J.Edward Jun 3, 2009 6:19 am

Rise and shine, box.

belynch Jun 3, 2009 6:21 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11848395)
I did ROR on the honeymoon

What did you think of it?

ConciergeMike Jun 3, 2009 6:38 am


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 11847227)
Well, at least now that is all moot, as I assume you have new coverage w/the new employer.:)

Not yet, but I will. ^


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11847284)
I sent to Olton Hall, but CM, let me know if you want since about 1/3 of are your intended :)

I'll take whatever you wanna send, absolutely. Thanks!


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11847290)
I love the box!!!


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 11847322)
And the box loves you.

So true.


Originally Posted by Plus1 (Post 11847335)
A slope of 152 is just plain evil. :eek:

So true. I thought Bethpage Black was hard at somewhere in the 130's. Ko'olau is a course I'd play to say that I played it (and for the photo ops) but I'd have no shame in playing it off the forwards, at least at my handicap.


Originally Posted by COFreqFlyer (Post 11847637)
That's the one I could buy new for €150,141,131, right? ;)

I bought it at the price he listed just because I wanted a widebody. I have to rename my airline...it doesn't do to have "Shorthaul Express Airlines" flying DFW-LHR and DFW-FRA. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by unkfrank (Post 11848305)
And thanks for starting the day with a poop reference and taking the pressure off ;)

There's one.


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11848315)
Guess I shouldn't have eaten that fiber muffin... :rolleyes:

There's two.

I don't have a ready poo reference, so would anyone like to go for the poofecta?

Morning, Box.


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